hidden cost of building a house?
#1
hidden cost of building a house?
hi peeps,
a lot of you guys'n'gals have built your own houses and from what I've seen they all look fantastic, we're looking to build our house in WA using a company, but since the furthest I've got is looking at the cost of new houses from brochures etc. I have a question regarding costs I hope you folks don't mind helping me out with, I've contacted several builders but none have replied to my emails . Regarding costs, there is a total cost in the brochures but this excludes the price of the land, so what other costs are associated with building your own house if any? Does the house builder do your gardens? Can you barter the price a little, can you get multiple house builders competing for your business? Do they offer any freebies or special deals? I realise it could depend on house builder but in general can anyone help?
thanks for your help
Dave
a lot of you guys'n'gals have built your own houses and from what I've seen they all look fantastic, we're looking to build our house in WA using a company, but since the furthest I've got is looking at the cost of new houses from brochures etc. I have a question regarding costs I hope you folks don't mind helping me out with, I've contacted several builders but none have replied to my emails . Regarding costs, there is a total cost in the brochures but this excludes the price of the land, so what other costs are associated with building your own house if any? Does the house builder do your gardens? Can you barter the price a little, can you get multiple house builders competing for your business? Do they offer any freebies or special deals? I realise it could depend on house builder but in general can anyone help?
thanks for your help
Dave
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Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by Daveh777
hi peeps,
a lot of you guys'n'gals have built your own houses and from what I've seen they all look fantastic, we're looking to build our house in WA using a company, but since the furthest I've got is looking at the cost of new houses from brochures etc. I have a question regarding costs I hope you folks don't mind helping me out with, I've contacted several builders but none have replied to my emails . Regarding costs, there is a total cost in the brochures but this excludes the price of the land, so what other costs are associated with building your own house if any? Does the house builder do your gardens? Can you barter the price a little, can you get multiple house builders competing for your business? Do they offer any freebies or special deals? I realise it could depend on house builder but in general can anyone help?
thanks for your help
Dave
a lot of you guys'n'gals have built your own houses and from what I've seen they all look fantastic, we're looking to build our house in WA using a company, but since the furthest I've got is looking at the cost of new houses from brochures etc. I have a question regarding costs I hope you folks don't mind helping me out with, I've contacted several builders but none have replied to my emails . Regarding costs, there is a total cost in the brochures but this excludes the price of the land, so what other costs are associated with building your own house if any? Does the house builder do your gardens? Can you barter the price a little, can you get multiple house builders competing for your business? Do they offer any freebies or special deals? I realise it could depend on house builder but in general can anyone help?
thanks for your help
Dave
#3
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by jad n rich
In general the price in the brochure is get you in the door price, then you add on to a realistic price, including things such as the engineering for the house once its sited on your land according to the geostructural report, could be an extra 5 grand could be 50 grand. Most display homes are the upgraded package from the brochure price, skys the limit, one display home round here is $110,000 over the brochure price Plus your amendments and changes all add to it, plus any extras you want. Nothing like gardens, drives, carpets flyscreens are included all thats your own responsiblity, you can add it on to the contract price but many will mark it up.
Jeez! a $110,000 over the brochure price , some of those show house are lovely though, now I see why. How much is it in general to have you garden done, driveway monoblocked, fly screens etc?
Dave
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Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by Daveh777
Thanks.
Jeez! a $110,000 over the brochure price , some of those show house are lovely though, now I see why. How much is it in general to have you garden done, driveway monoblocked, fly screens etc?
Dave
Jeez! a $110,000 over the brochure price , some of those show house are lovely though, now I see why. How much is it in general to have you garden done, driveway monoblocked, fly screens etc?
Dave
#5
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by jad n rich
Most display homes would tell you to allow 30 grand. But its really how longs a piece of string, weve had a house with a 10 M driveway this ones 100 M driveway, that sort of thng its like a pool one could be 20 one could be 90. Really depends what you want.
#6
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by Daveh777
fair enough. Anyone with experience able to tell me what you got with your money, I don't want to offend anyone or seem to be just nosey. We don't have that much money and the cost of buying an older home in Perth right now is too expensive, but we need to know if we're being realistic enough to even afford a new built house.
To be honest I'm not sure if building is the cheaper option at the moment compared to buying a well priced used property.
Having said that we would do it again and enjoyed the process but only because we had a small builder who allowed us to change specs and gave us copies of the trade invoices for upgrades etc and didnt try to rip us off. We were going with a large building company but could see the mark up being made on upgrades would send the cost through the roof.
#7
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by Daveh777
fair enough. Anyone with experience able to tell me what you got with your money, I don't want to offend anyone or seem to be just nosey. We don't have that much money and the cost of buying an older home in Perth right now is too expensive, but we need to know if we're being realistic enough to even afford a new built house.
We also had to supply all our own light and fan fittings. All this extra stuff cost another $11,000. so our final contract price
was about $212000, and for that, we got exactly what we wanted. Our house is an identical replica of the display house which meant there were no extra construction costs.
All the fencing and landscaping was our responsbiility. We have just spent about $8,000 in fencing, plus $4,000 for glass pool fencing. Landscaping so far, I estimate to be approximately 3 grand so far.
Hope this has given you an idea.
Gina
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Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Thanks Gina, thanks Centurion, exactly what I was looking for Anyone else?
Gina why do you think building might no be as cheap as buying? R u thinking of the price of land?
Gina why do you think building might no be as cheap as buying? R u thinking of the price of land?
#9
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Hiya,
We're in the process of building a house in Queensland at the moment and I'm glad to say that we've got a great builder and we've got a happy list of inclusions that works for us. Our house price was $188,000 and we bought the land separately. The only extra we added in was air con. Our inclusions do indeed include the driveway, the landscaping (front and back) fencing and gates, tiling, carpets, blinds, flyscreens etc. I think it is really builder dependent and you just have to look around for what you want. We may add some extra things in but to be honest we're happy with the look of the things we're getting as the inclusions.
The only extra costs we incurred were solicitors fees for the land purchase and stamp duty fees. You should get the first homeowners allowance though when your house completes and this is more than enough to cover fees. You are also entitled to get a percentage of your stamp duty back within 12 months I think.
Hope that helps and good luck with your house searching.
Take care
Tracy and Angela
We're in the process of building a house in Queensland at the moment and I'm glad to say that we've got a great builder and we've got a happy list of inclusions that works for us. Our house price was $188,000 and we bought the land separately. The only extra we added in was air con. Our inclusions do indeed include the driveway, the landscaping (front and back) fencing and gates, tiling, carpets, blinds, flyscreens etc. I think it is really builder dependent and you just have to look around for what you want. We may add some extra things in but to be honest we're happy with the look of the things we're getting as the inclusions.
The only extra costs we incurred were solicitors fees for the land purchase and stamp duty fees. You should get the first homeowners allowance though when your house completes and this is more than enough to cover fees. You are also entitled to get a percentage of your stamp duty back within 12 months I think.
Hope that helps and good luck with your house searching.
Take care
Tracy and Angela
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Re: hidden cost of building a house?
[We are building in SA with Rossdale homes,signed the contract yesterday.
Our house has a basic price of $129k,this is for a four bed with 2 baths,family room and sep lounge.
Our build has come in at $222,extras include things like air conditioning,floor coverings,driveway and perimeter path,rendering etc.As soon as I can find our quote will post it online so you can see it broken down!!
Don't forget GST as well,also the rent you will have to pay at the same time as any mortgage you have on the land and build.
Our house has a basic price of $129k,this is for a four bed with 2 baths,family room and sep lounge.
Our build has come in at $222,extras include things like air conditioning,floor coverings,driveway and perimeter path,rendering etc.As soon as I can find our quote will post it online so you can see it broken down!!
Don't forget GST as well,also the rent you will have to pay at the same time as any mortgage you have on the land and build.
#11
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by gjs
[We are building in SA with Rossdale homes,signed the contract yesterday.
Our house has a basic price of $129k,this is for a four bed with 2 baths,family room and sep lounge.
Our build has come in at $222,extras include things like air conditioning,floor coverings,driveway and perimeter path,rendering etc.As soon as I can find our quote will post it online so you can see it broken down!!
Don't forget GST as well,also the rent you will have to pay at the same time as any mortgage you have on the land and build.
Our house has a basic price of $129k,this is for a four bed with 2 baths,family room and sep lounge.
Our build has come in at $222,extras include things like air conditioning,floor coverings,driveway and perimeter path,rendering etc.As soon as I can find our quote will post it online so you can see it broken down!!
Don't forget GST as well,also the rent you will have to pay at the same time as any mortgage you have on the land and build.
#12
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by karmagirls
Hiya,
We're in the process of building a house in Queensland at the moment and I'm glad to say that we've got a great builder and we've got a happy list of inclusions that works for us. Our house price was $188,000 and we bought the land separately. The only extra we added in was air con. Our inclusions do indeed include the driveway, the landscaping (front and back) fencing and gates, tiling, carpets, blinds, flyscreens etc. I think it is really builder dependent and you just have to look around for what you want. We may add some extra things in but to be honest we're happy with the look of the things we're getting as the inclusions.
The only extra costs we incurred were solicitors fees for the land purchase and stamp duty fees. You should get the first homeowners allowance though when your house completes and this is more than enough to cover fees. You are also entitled to get a percentage of your stamp duty back within 12 months I think.
Hope that helps and good luck with your house searching.
Take care
Tracy and Angela
We're in the process of building a house in Queensland at the moment and I'm glad to say that we've got a great builder and we've got a happy list of inclusions that works for us. Our house price was $188,000 and we bought the land separately. The only extra we added in was air con. Our inclusions do indeed include the driveway, the landscaping (front and back) fencing and gates, tiling, carpets, blinds, flyscreens etc. I think it is really builder dependent and you just have to look around for what you want. We may add some extra things in but to be honest we're happy with the look of the things we're getting as the inclusions.
The only extra costs we incurred were solicitors fees for the land purchase and stamp duty fees. You should get the first homeowners allowance though when your house completes and this is more than enough to cover fees. You are also entitled to get a percentage of your stamp duty back within 12 months I think.
Hope that helps and good luck with your house searching.
Take care
Tracy and Angela
thanks for the input. I hope everything goes well with your build. I see you added air con as an extra, not much need for that in QLD
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Re: hidden cost of building a house?
We have a small builder who accommodates us well. There are a lot of PC items in the contract but so far we are on budget.
Unexpected costs so far have been the $3500 the council charged for approving the build and around $80k for the foundations - not including the floor itself (Only unexpected in so far as the actual amount involved!)
Unexpected costs so far have been the $3500 the council charged for approving the build and around $80k for the foundations - not including the floor itself (Only unexpected in so far as the actual amount involved!)
#14
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Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 225
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by Daveh777
I'd love to see the quote, thanks gjs.
Adjustments
structural changes$4,226.00
ceiling raised to 2.7m
lounge room squared off
roller door on rear of garage
Council/Zone Requirements $2,650.00
Rainwater tank
tank connection,overflow connection to stormwater,concrete slab for base of rainwater
Services $2,120.00
Install Telstra conduit in underground electrical trench and wire phone points to house
sewer adjustmnt to allow flexible couplings for reactive soil nd lagging to wastes
Stormwater $5,530
Siteworks $34,631.00 :scared:
Excavation and filing of site
footings
Trench inspection#Concrete upstand to footing on Boundary
SL82 mesh to slab
removal of excess soil from site cut
External Finishes $7,104.00
front elevation,rendered and painted
Moulding to front elevation
Coloured mortar
"xremote controled roller doors to front of garage
termi mesh termite barrier to perimeter of house
Cabinetmaking $3,608.00
Extra cupboards in kitchen,open shelving above fridge
2x sliding door BIRs
Bulkheads above kitchen cupboards
Appliances $10,420
gas heating system
Ducted Evaporative air con system
Oven,hot plate and extractor fan,as have upgraded these(basic models
included in base price)
Internal finishes $789
double doors to lounge
Floor coverings $11,151 (includes fitting)
Tiling to entry,dining,meals,family kitchen and rear passage.
Carpet to 4 beds and lounge
Landscaping $9,630.00
pavers to drive and perimeter of house
Pretty scary stuff!
We will also have to pay for all the little extras like fencing,post box,TV arial,garden landscaping,washing line,window treatments,patio,pergola....and another 10 months rent until it is built!Hope this helps!!
#15
Re: hidden cost of building a house?
Originally Posted by Daveh777
hi peeps,
a lot of you guys'n'gals have built your own houses and from what I've seen they all look fantastic, we're looking to build our house in WA using a company, but since the furthest I've got is looking at the cost of new houses from brochures etc. I have a question regarding costs I hope you folks don't mind helping me out with, I've contacted several builders but none have replied to my emails . Regarding costs, there is a total cost in the brochures but this excludes the price of the land, so what other costs are associated with building your own house if any? Does the house builder do your gardens? Can you barter the price a little, can you get multiple house builders competing for your business? Do they offer any freebies or special deals? I realise it could depend on house builder but in general can anyone help?
thanks for your help
Dave
a lot of you guys'n'gals have built your own houses and from what I've seen they all look fantastic, we're looking to build our house in WA using a company, but since the furthest I've got is looking at the cost of new houses from brochures etc. I have a question regarding costs I hope you folks don't mind helping me out with, I've contacted several builders but none have replied to my emails . Regarding costs, there is a total cost in the brochures but this excludes the price of the land, so what other costs are associated with building your own house if any? Does the house builder do your gardens? Can you barter the price a little, can you get multiple house builders competing for your business? Do they offer any freebies or special deals? I realise it could depend on house builder but in general can anyone help?
thanks for your help
Dave
We checked out a show home over the weekend and the extras to ensure you get exactly the same as the show house was $154K over the brochure price.