jwatsonoz

http://au.news.yahoo.com/050925/2/w39i.html

Poor thing this. Why can't Australia get their bloody thumb out and do something. Perhaps people with duel oz/uk citizenship should travel with their UK passport outside of Australia (most coutries consider you a citizen of the passport you use to enter). Shame on you Australian governement!

Beautiful place Australia, but the government stink. They are reactionary, inefficent and gutless. Hardly predictive, assertive, inspirational leadership. I'm not looking forward to voting, choosing between poor and poor. Australia needs to grow up, bin the queen as HOS, and stop jumping up at the peticoats of UK/America and sort the tax system.

Since I have become a citizen (all of 10 micro seconds ago!) I have become much more concerned about our government. Can't wait to sack them and watch the next set of gutless plonkers take over. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr its monday

Steve G

Shame on the British Government if they allow him British Citizenship!!!

brisnick

legally, i don't think they can do anything other than allow it.

jwatsonoz

My post is not concerned with wether he is guilty or not but rather the support that citizens get when overseas. British Citizens are, apparently, more important than Australian Citizens.

Rudi

Hmmmmm - because we all know that the British Government is wonderful and NEVER does anything wrong don't we

jwatsonoz

Quantative evidence showsthat they have dealt with this situation much more effectively than Australia:

9/9 returned Vs 0/1 returned

JAJ

Entitlement to British citizenship by registration under section 4C of the British Nationality Act 1981 (birth between 1961 and 1982 to a UK born or naturalised mother) is not good character dependent. Hence there is no legal bar to Mr Hicks being granted British citizenship, unless the law were to change very quickly to impose a character requirement.

However after Mr Hicks has acquired British citizenship, he could be deprived of it for doing acts that are 'seriously prejudicial' to the interests of the United Kingdom or a British Overseas Territory.

Incidentally the fact that his mother never took Australian citizenship is irrelevant, as becoming an Australian citizen has *never* caused loss of UK citizenship.


Jeremy

renth

Make that 1/2 for Aus - remember Mamdou Habib?

jwatsonoz

agreed, I forgot

gobbyjock

No - I think you`ll find it`s not a case of BC`s being more important than AC`s , it`s the way the two governments view the legality of the court process in Guatanamo, the BG demended repatriation because it did not view the process as fair and legal. Maybe the AG views it as a case of "If you were stupid enough to go over & fight with the Taliban and then get caught then maybe you should take the consequences". I can see this being a thread for TIO forum.

wombat42

Yes how terrible the Aussie government is not trying to get terrorists out of jail so they can blow up innocent people on trains and buses.

diddy

Indeed, it's not really a case of how hard the UK Govt is on the US and how soft Australia is, it's more a case of how soft the UK is on terrorists and how hard the Australia is.

Paul.

fugly

excellent points.

an Australian citizen [at least he thought he was until he found the british citizenship loop hole]...goes to fight with the taliban, gets caught fightin british and aus citizens and then wants to hide behind the british government shirt tails cos the aussie govenment wont help him.

dont know if he's innocent or guilty but facts are he was on the opposite side when fightin.

chances r he's not paid a penny in UK tax and he entered taliban country on his aussie passport.

he doesn't need good character [by UK citizenship standards]...but is maybe entitled to get UK citizenship.

weather its"OK" for this person to use this loop hole or not wont make a difference. he might av a legal right, even if the facts say he dont have a moral right.

Let the UK tax payers shell out for anohter of the worlds problems...

who cares?

If UK govenment is too stoopid to change the law to stop "users" then whos fault is that.

if this aint a kick in the arse for every decent UK citizen.... then wot is

Aus got it right i reckon

jad n rich

As much as I agree with you the government stink in almost every area, corrupt gutless pollies in many cases too, I wondered if I had missed the point here. Australias looking to be seen as taking a tough line on terrorists, and despite what many may imagine australia does have home grown australian men who are suspected terrorists, why should it help them get off?

jwatsonoz

well phrased, but are you suggesting that an unfair system should be applied to stupid people? I would suggest that a system should be fair full stop and that people are innocent until a 'fair' system judges them guilty. If the americans do not have the capability to do this then they should be brought back.