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Grub Sep 20th 2002 12:08 am

Help please
 
Dear All

Have just had my sister on phone from Perth v. upset.
Brief History:
Application lodged Dec 2000. Heard July 2002- family sponsored application. They had already left UK for 2 mths travel before arriving in Oz early Sept. They expected straightforward but no. They wanted ref's on my sis, Oz police checks (as they had spent a year travelling Oz in 97/98), all my uncles stuff (tax i think) was out of date so he had to re-submit etc etc. They have just got all the info to the HC in London to be told THAT THEY WILL TAKE 5 MONTHS TO OPEN THE POST that their police checks are in. This means the house they have offered on they cant buy, they cant get jobs ie they have no rights at all. Their holiday visa is only for 6 months so they are in a terrible situation.
What can they do? Surely if the case is open and current that they want to close it as soon as possible. Surely they cannot take 5 months to open a letter. Everything is going to expire now.

If someone can shed some light on this/ give me some advice then i will pass it on. They would be so grateful.

Thanks everyone

Nicky

Grub Sep 20th 2002 1:19 am

Re: Help please
 
Oh yes- and BTW they are being processed by Team 1 so what hope is there for the rest of us.

Nicky [/SIZE][/QUOTE]

ian Sep 20th 2002 1:25 am

Re: Help please
 
Wasn't there a thing where you wrote your file number and Team on the envelope?

Perhaps they get opened as soon as they come in because they are open cases?

Sorry, dont really know. :confused:


Originally posted by NickyTurner:
Oh yes- and BTW they are being processed by Team 1 so what hope is there for the rest of us.

Nicky

[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

Grub Sep 20th 2002 1:47 am

Re: Help please
 
Have paid £2500 for the privelege of having supposedly do this for us. What a big fat waste of money that was. Wish i had gone with Go Matilda- at least they know what they are doing (and they are cheaper!)

ndaltonb Sep 20th 2002 5:05 am

Re: Help please
 
Nicky,

Sounds like your sister got a letter from AHC. Is that correct? If so I might have the case officer's name.

Suggest you call AHC on Monday and ask to speak to the person who wrote the letter and they could be quite helpful.

Maybe this will cast a bit of hope. I received a letter asking for birth certificates and ask to confirm I hadn't been back to Ireland since the date of our Irish police check. The letter then went on to say that AHC noted that my sponsorship forms run out at end of Oct but hopefully all this info could be cleared up in time. If not possible, then tax certificates and new sponsorship form would be required. All in all they have been very helpful and all queries are now cleared up and I have 6 weeks to post bond and go get the visa.

Explain the situation and that this info is being sent in response to a query from AHC.

Best of luck

Nigel db



Originally posted by NickyTurner:
They wanted ref's on my sis, ....


ptlabs Sep 20th 2002 5:49 am

Re: Help please
 

Originally posted by NickyTurner:
Have paid £2500 for the privelege of having supposedly do this for us. What a big fat waste of money that was.

Hmmm... a case of one zero too many? (pun intended)

M. Schmidt Sep 20th 2002 10:55 am

Re: Help please
 
Where can I see my "team"? Is it a part of the file number? I've made our
app. in Dec. 2001 in Adelaide.

Thx Michael


"NickyTurner" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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    > Oh yes- and BTW they are being processed by Team 1 so what hope is there
    > for the rest of us.
    > Nicky
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Alan Collett Sep 20th 2002 7:51 pm

Re: Help please
 
Hello Nicky.

5 months sounds rather excessive, and I can only suggest a telephone call to the case officer (if you haven't done this already).

Does she have a migration agent acting for her? If so, leaving aside the fact that some planning might have avoided the present situation, the agent should also be seeking clarification on your sister's behalf.

I'm afraid all this just goes to show how things can go wrong if you jump the gun ...

Not sure that we can help to any significant extent, but please feel able to email me directly if you or your sister want any further assistance.

Best regards.




Originally posted by ndaltonb:
Nicky,

Sounds like your sister got a letter from AHC. Is that correct? If so I might have the case officer's name.

Suggest you call AHC on Monday and ask to speak to the person who wrote the letter and they could be quite helpful.

Maybe this will cast a bit of hope. I received a letter asking for birth certificates and ask to confirm I hadn't been back to Ireland since the date of our Irish police check. The letter then went on to say that AHC noted that my sponsorship forms run out at end of Oct but hopefully all this info could be cleared up in time. If not possible, then tax certificates and new sponsorship form would be required. All in all they have been very helpful and all queries are now cleared up and I have 6 weeks to post bond and go get the visa.

Explain the situation and that this info is being sent in response to a query from AHC.

Best of luck

Nigel db




ndaltonb Sep 20th 2002 10:01 pm

Re: Help please
 
Michael,

I know that in this case it refers to Team one and team two in London AHC. London have split applications alphabetically.

nigel


[SIZE=1]Originally posted by M. Schmidt:
Where can I see my "team"? Is it a part of the file number? I've made our
app. in Dec. 2001 in Adelaide.

Thx Michael

Jaj Sep 21st 2002 9:45 am

Re: Help please
 
    >On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:08:45 +0000, NickyTurner wrote:
    >Dear All
    >Have just had my sister on phone from Perth v. upset.
    >Brief History:
    >Application lodged Dec 2000. Heard July 2002- family sponsored
    >application. They had already left UK for 2 mths travel before arriving
    >in Oz early Sept. They expected straightforward but no.

No-one should ever expect that.



They wanted
    >ref's on my sis, Oz police checks (as they had spent a year travelling
    >Oz in 97/98), all my uncles stuff (tax i think) was out of date so he
    >had to re-submit etc etc. They have just got all the info to the HC in
    >London to be told THAT THEY WILL TAKE 5 MONTHS TO OPEN THE POST

That rumour rearing its ugly head again. Does anyone *really* believe
that they just let post pile up in the mailroom for 5 months?


    > that
    > their police checks are in. This means the house they have offered on
    > they cant buy, they cant get jobs ie they have no rights at all. Their
    > holiday visa is only for 6 months so they are in a terrible situation.
    > What can they do? Surely if the case is open and current that they want
    > to close it as soon as possible. Surely they cannot take 5 months to
    > open a letter. Everything is going to expire now.
    >If someone can shed some light on this/ give me some advice then i will
    >pass it on. They would be so grateful.

I think Alan pointed out that they shouldn't have jumped the gun on
their migration application. They did precisely what they were told
*not* to do by DIMIA. At this stage, all they can do is call their
case officer and ask nicely - but the case officer is perfectly within
his rights to say no. After all, if word gets out that all you need
to do to speed up your application is go to Australia, everyone might
do it.


Jeremy

baldbutts Sep 21st 2002 9:41 pm

Re: Help please
 

Originally posted by Jaj:

After all, if word gets out that all you need
to do to speed up your application is go to Australia, everyone might
do it.


Jeremy

Hardly think that 21 months down the line is speeding things up!But then we're talking about AHC London here,who are getting their P45's once the last applicants dealt with.

Alan Sep 22nd 2002 10:01 am

Re: Help please
 
Well it would explain the LONG wait. If Adelaide can process visa's in 50
weeks and AHC take 76 weeks. The question has to be why ?


"baldbutts" wrote in message
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...
    > Originally posted by Jaj:
    > >
    > > After all, if word gets out that all you need
    > > to do to speed up your application is go to Australia, everyone might
    > > do it.
    > >
    > >
    > > Jeremy
    > >
    > Hardly think that 21 months down the line is speeding things up!But then
    > we're talking about AHC London here,who are getting their P45's once the
    > last applicants dealt with.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

pommie bastard Sep 22nd 2002 4:46 pm

Re: Help please
 

Originally posted by NickyTurner:
Dear All

Have just had my sister on phone from Perth v. upset.
Brief History:
Application lodged Dec 2000. Heard July 2002- family sponsored application. They had already left UK for 2 mths travel before arriving in Oz early Sept. They expected straightforward but no. They wanted ref's on my sis, Oz police checks (as they had spent a year travelling Oz in 97/98), all my uncles stuff (tax i think) was out of date so he had to re-submit etc etc. They have just got all the info to the HC in London to be told THAT THEY WILL TAKE 5 MONTHS TO OPEN THE POST that their police checks are in. This means the house they have offered on they cant buy, they cant get jobs ie they have no rights at all. Their holiday visa is only for 6 months so they are in a terrible situation.
What can they do? Surely if the case is open and current that they want to close it as soon as possible. Surely they cannot take 5 months to open a letter. Everything is going to expire now.

If someone can shed some light on this/ give me some advice then i will pass it on. They would be so grateful.

Thanks everyone

Nicky


Is it a case of do not jump the gun? , this is the way not to do it but try the local MP they can be very helpful we had a good guy who helped with our sons visa.The MPs here will try for your family if asked the nobodies at the imagration do sit up and take notice if MP is involved.Best Wishes:D :beer:

Grub Sep 23rd 2002 1:25 am

Re: Help please
 
Ta for all the help everyone- can someone tell me though- is it true that AHC are taking 5 mths to open post then what happens when they finally open our case and ask for our police clearances and medicals. Would it be better to hand deliver them (pref. with small hand gun in pocket so will open said post on demand!)
Dont really want to schlep to London but am v. desperate to wrap this up. Alan- any advice. Are the HC talking out of their a**** or is this the case. Can someone find out before i go crazy(-er).

Lovely
Nicky
x

Jaj Sep 23rd 2002 8:48 am

Re: Help please
 
    >On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:25:48 +0000, NickyTurner wrote:
    >Ta for all the help everyone- can someone tell me though- is it true
    >that AHC are taking 5 mths to open post then what happens when they
    >finally open our case and ask for our police clearances and medicals.


Has it occurred to you that it might NOT be true?


Jeremy

Grub Sep 23rd 2002 8:05 pm

Re: Help please
 
Surely Jaj no one could be that cruel. My family are all affected by this 'statement'. I prefer not to think that someone could say such a thing, knowing the ramifications of such a comment.

Anyway- of course we went 'oh right, b*****s' but I really havent got a clue as to the workings of the HC and how things are done.

Have you some insider information?????

Jaj Sep 24th 2002 9:00 am

Re: Help please
 
None other than common sense (of course they open the post!) and other
posts showing they are steadily issuing visas and clearing their
backlog.

Jeremy

    >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:05:43 +0000, NickyTurner wrote:
    >Surely Jaj no one could be that cruel. My family are all affected by
    >this 'statement'. I prefer not to think that someone could say such a
    >thing, knowing the ramifications of such a comment.
    >Anyway- of course we went 'oh right, b*****s' but I really havent got a
    >clue as to the workings of the HC and how things are done.
    >Have you some insider information?????
    >--
    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Still Waiting Sep 24th 2002 9:15 am

Re: Help please
 
Then why are they behind the rest of the world. AHC has one of the longest
processing time's in the world.



"JAJ" wrote in message
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...
    > None other than common sense (of course they open the post!) and other
    > posts showing they are steadily issuing visas and clearing their
    > backlog.
    > Jeremy
    > >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:05:43 +0000, NickyTurner
wrote:
    > >
    > >Surely Jaj no one could be that cruel. My family are all affected by
    > >this 'statement'. I prefer not to think that someone could say such a
    > >thing, knowing the ramifications of such a comment.
    > >
    > >Anyway- of course we went 'oh right, b*****s' but I really havent got a
    > >clue as to the workings of the HC and how things are done.
    > >
    > >Have you some insider information?????
    > >
    > >--
    > >Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > >

mashiraz Sep 24th 2002 9:29 am

Re: Help please
 
Jeremy,

'Clearing the backlog'
Does that mean processing them and catching up .....or doing them all at the speed they came in at. ie processing a month worth, takes a month?

I don't like being 'a backlog'

Mash
:mad:




[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by Jaj:
None other than common sense (of course they open the post!) and other
posts showing they are steadily issuing visas and clearing their
backlog.

Jeremy

Grub Sep 24th 2002 7:56 pm

Re: Help please
 
I don't like being 'a backlog'

Yeh- me neither!!!

:mad:





Originally posted by Jaj:
None other than common sense (of course they open the post!) and other
posts showing they are steadily issuing visas and clearing their
backlog.

Jeremy


Jaj Sep 25th 2002 12:49 am

Re: Help please
 
It means what it says. As AHC London isn't getting any new
applications, it's just clearing out what it has. No, I don't know
the precise speed, but I've been of the view for a number of months
that they will have the majority of their applications cleared by the
end of this year, or very early 2003.

Some harder cases will take longer to fix.

Jeremy

    >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:29:50 +0000, mashiraz wrote:
    >Jeremy,
    >'Clearing the backlog'
    >Does that mean processing them and catching up .....or doing them all at
    >the speed they came in at. ie processing a month worth, takes a month?
    >I don't like being 'a backlog'
    >Mash
    >:mad:
    >Originally posted by Jaj:
    >> None other than common sense (of course they open the post!) and other
    >> posts showing they are steadily issuing visas and clearing their
    >> backlog.
    >> Jeremy
    >--
    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Jaj Sep 25th 2002 12:51 am

Re: Help please
 
Source please?

Most overseas posts were caught with a lengthy backlog when the system
was hit by the twin shocks of the IT fast-track and onshore graduate
processing in 2001.

Many offshore posts (eg Berlin) were as bad as, if not worse than,
London.

Adelaide got off to a quick start in November/December for some people
(even non-IT at the time) - contrary to expectations - but has slowed
up considerably since then.

Jeremy

    >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:15:10 +0000 (UTC), "Still Waiting" wrote:
    >Then why are they behind the rest of the world. AHC has one of the longest
    >processing time's in the world.
    >"JAJ" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >ic.net.au
    ...
    >> None other than common sense (of course they open the post!) and other
    >> posts showing they are steadily issuing visas and clearing their
    >> backlog.
    >> Jeremy
    >> >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:05:43 +0000, NickyTurner
    > wrote:
    >> >
    >> >Surely Jaj no one could be that cruel. My family are all affected by
    >> >this 'statement'. I prefer not to think that someone could say such a
    >> >thing, knowing the ramifications of such a comment.
    >> >
    >> >Anyway- of course we went 'oh right, b*****s' but I really havent got a
    >> >clue as to the workings of the HC and how things are done.
    >> >
    >> >Have you some insider information?????
    >> >
    >> >--
    >> >Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    >> >

Still Waiting Sep 25th 2002 5:43 am

Re: Help please
 
Looking at the oversea's Australian embassy's websites, Some of them seem to
give processing time of visa's.

http://www.austemb.org/DIMA/migrati-
on.htm


http://www.australia.-
org.yu/visas/skilled_mig_visa.html


If you want more, I could find them if needed.

But for that augment to hold water, every Australian High Comission office's
visa procesing time would be more or less be the same.

Adelaide started from scratch in November 2001 and issued visa's for every
country on the planet and still beats AHC in London who only have to service
the untied kingdom.







"JAJ" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
net.au
...
    > Source please?
    > Most overseas posts were caught with a lengthy backlog when the system
    > was hit by the twin shocks of the IT fast-track and onshore graduate
    > processing in 2001.
    > Many offshore posts (eg Berlin) were as bad as, if not worse than,
    > London.
    > Adelaide got off to a quick start in November/December for some people
    > (even non-IT at the time) - contrary to expectations - but has slowed
    > up considerably since then.
    > Jeremy
    > >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:15:10 +0000 (UTC), "Still Waiting"
wrote:
    > >Then why are they behind the rest of the world. AHC has one of the
longest
    > >processing time's in the world.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >"JAJ" wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]
    > >ific.net.au
    ...
    > >> None other than common sense (of course they open the post!) and other
    > >> posts showing they are steadily issuing visas and clearing their
    > >> backlog.
    > >>
    > >> Jeremy
    > >>
    > >> >On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:05:43 +0000, NickyTurner
    > > wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >Surely Jaj no one could be that cruel. My family are all affected by
    > >> >this 'statement'. I prefer not to think that someone could say such a
    > >> >thing, knowing the ramifications of such a comment.
    > >> >
    > >> >Anyway- of course we went 'oh right, b*****s' but I really havent got
a
    > >> >clue as to the workings of the HC and how things are done.
    > >> >
    > >> >Have you some insider information?????
    > >> >
    > >> >--
    > >> >Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >
    > >

Jaj Sep 25th 2002 9:35 am

Re: Help please
 
    >On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC), "Still Waiting" wrote:
    >Looking at the oversea's Australian embassy's websites, Some of them seem to
    >give processing time of visa's.
    >http://www.austemb.org/DIMA/migrat-
    >ion.htm


A very broad brush statement of 'other visas' taking 9-12 months on
average. No information for skilled applications lodged (Washington
was not a particularly fast office recently, and had a temporary
shutdown of processing non-IT for a few months as London had over the
end of 2001).

I'm not sure if they're telling the full truth on aged parent visas
either.

    >http://www.australia-
    >.org.yu/visas/skilled_mig_visa.html


They say 5-8 months but they can't be giving up to date information
about themselves, as the last skilled applications they received came
in almost 12 months ago.

If they're referring to Adelaide, the information's is out of date.


    >If you want more, I could find them if needed.
    >But for that augment to hold water, every Australian High Comission office's
    >visa procesing time would be more or less be the same.

They've NEVER been the same. And a slow office could always become a
fast one, or vice versa. It all depended on application patterns
locally.


    >Adelaide started from scratch in November 2001 and issued visa's for every
    >country on the planet and still beats AHC in London who only have to service
    >the untied kingdom.

Smaller offices have fewer people working in them. Bigger offices
have more.

Look, just accept that you applied at the wrong time, you got caught
out mainly by IT fast-tracking and onshore graduate processing for
students.

If it's any consolation to you, many of the IT people who sailed past
you in the queue are now unemployed in Australia.

Jeremy

Still Waiting Sep 25th 2002 11:22 am

Re: Help please
 
Its no consolation that people can't find work,

Yes I did make the mistake of believing what London AHC posted on their web
site.

The part that gets my goat up is that when I started to jump through the
Immigration hops, the visa processing time stood at 9 months, then 15
months, moved again to 18 months and now is at 20 months. Yet they are very
quick to take the money and then do nothing.


It creates a bad first impression of Australian officialdom if you have to
wait almost two years for a visa to be processed.





"JAJ" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
c.net.au
...
    > >On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC), "Still Waiting"
wrote:
    > >Looking at the oversea's Australian embassy's websites, Some of them seem
to
    > >give processing time of visa's.
    > >
    > >http://www.austemb.org/DIMA/migr-
    > >ation.htm

    > A very broad brush statement of 'other visas' taking 9-12 months on
    > average. No information for skilled applications lodged (Washington
    > was not a particularly fast office recently, and had a temporary
    > shutdown of processing non-IT for a few months as London had over the
    > end of 2001).
    > I'm not sure if they're telling the full truth on aged parent visas
    > either.
    > >
    > >http://www.austral-
    > >ia.org.yu/visas/skilled_mig_visa.html

    > They say 5-8 months but they can't be giving up to date information
    > about themselves, as the last skilled applications they received came
    > in almost 12 months ago.
    > If they're referring to Adelaide, the information's is out of date.
    > >
    > >If you want more, I could find them if needed.
    > >
    > >But for that augment to hold water, every Australian High Comission
office's
    > >visa procesing time would be more or less be the same.
    > They've NEVER been the same. And a slow office could always become a
    > fast one, or vice versa. It all depended on application patterns
    > locally.
    > >
    > >Adelaide started from scratch in November 2001 and issued visa's for
every
    > >country on the planet and still beats AHC in London who only have to
service
    > >the untied kingdom.
    > >
    > Smaller offices have fewer people working in them. Bigger offices
    > have more.
    > Look, just accept that you applied at the wrong time, you got caught
    > out mainly by IT fast-tracking and onshore graduate processing for
    > students.
    > If it's any consolation to you, many of the IT people who sailed past
    > you in the queue are now unemployed in Australia.
    > Jeremy

pommie bastard Sep 25th 2002 1:22 pm

Re: Help please
 
[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by Still Waiting:

It creates a bad first impression of Australian officialdom if you have to
wait almost two years for a visa to be processed.





You have not lived yet if you have a crap here, some Aussie will have a form for it!!!!!


:D


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