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allisonwantstoemigrate Nov 11th 2010 4:20 am

Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 
......I can't decide!

I've printed off both sets of forms to register with nursing councils in both countries but I can't decide which country to go for!!

There are jobs similar to what I do now (school nurse), and I've visited both countries, although have experienced NZ more than Aus.

I'll be emigrating on my own; does anyone have experience of being single and emigrating on their own to the other side of the world???

Thanks for any suggestions or info! :confused:

Petals Nov 11th 2010 7:31 am

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 
Difficult one to answer as we are all different. I have lived in NZ and now I live in Aus.

For me I like Australia because I prefer the weather, I love Melbourne and it ticks all my boxes. We have relatives in NZ who migrated there yonks ago and of course they love it and are settled there. They live in Masterton.

There is a saying that NZ biggest export is people and they mainly come to Aus for the bigger wages etc.

As a single person I guess Aus would be my choice but others may pop along and tell you differently.

Two of my closest friends who live not far from me are both New Zealanders and I did know them when I lived in NZ so long time friendship.

If you want smaller distances then its NZ if you like vastly different landscape and areas to live then Aus.

Good luck.

Buzzy--Bee Nov 11th 2010 10:11 am

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by allisonwantstoemigrate (Post 8975869)
......I can't decide!

I've printed off both sets of forms to register with nursing councils in both countries but I can't decide which country to go for!!

There are jobs similar to what I do now (school nurse), and I've visited both countries, although have experienced NZ more than Aus.

I'll be emigrating on my own; does anyone have experience of being single and emigrating on their own to the other side of the world???

Thanks for any suggestions or info! :confused:

Hi Alison

I've lived in both places and have found that Australia (specifically Melbourne) has the right balance between the lifestyle of NZ and the economy and job opportunities of a westernised northern hemisphere country.

As a nurse I believe you should have no trouble getting work in either country. You mention you are single but not what age group you fall in to. I would suggest that if you are younger and single you would prefer Australia as NZ can feel a bit like a big retirement village.

Also bear in mind that in Australia the wages are higher and the cost of living for many things is much less.

If your primary love is bushwalking, fishing and shooting wild animals then I would recommend New Zealand for lifestyle.

The other thing to consider is the fact that if you get Australian PR and decide you don't like Australia, then the Aus PR visa does give you the automatic right to live and work in NZ and subsequently get NZ PR and Citizenship should you wish. So it is the far more valuable visa if you can get it. The reverse does not apply, NZ visa gives you no rights in Oz at all.

BB

Seneca21 Nov 11th 2010 10:14 am

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by allisonwantstoemigrate (Post 8975869)
......I can't decide!

I've printed off both sets of forms to register with nursing councils in both countries but I can't decide which country to go for!!

There are jobs similar to what I do now (school nurse), and I've visited both countries, although have experienced NZ more than Aus.

I'll be emigrating on my own; does anyone have experience of being single and emigrating on their own to the other side of the world???

Thanks for any suggestions or info! :confused:

Both will offer a really great lifestyle, and both have lots of opportunities, though I suspect Aus more so because of its bigger population. Aus also has a much wider range of climates and more todo in terms of domestic holidays. Also, you should look into the different rights Aus/NZ PR afford in terms of mutual habitation/work rights, etc., because I am not sure they are equal. JAJ might be able to help here because he is very knowledgable in this field.

Kudos to you for doing this on your own, by the way.

Amazulu Nov 11th 2010 12:29 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by allisonwantstoemigrate (Post 8975869)
......I can't decide!

I've printed off both sets of forms to register with nursing councils in both countries but I can't decide which country to go for!!

There are jobs similar to what I do now (school nurse), and I've visited both countries, although have experienced NZ more than Aus.

I'll be emigrating on my own; does anyone have experience of being single and emigrating on their own to the other side of the world???

Thanks for any suggestions or info! :confused:

Australia is a 1st world country.
New Zealand is a 2nd/3rd world country.

You decide.

fish.01 Nov 11th 2010 1:22 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8976741)
Australia is a 1st world country.
New Zealand is a 2nd/3rd world country.

You decide.

NZ has done well beating all those 1st world countries ;)

The top 25 countries

1. France
2. Australia
3. Switzerland
4. Germany
5. New Zealand
6. Luxembourg
7. US
8. Belgium
9. Canada
10. Italy
11. Netherlands
12. Norway
13. Austria
14. Liechtenstein
15. Malta
16. Denmark
17. Spain
18. Finland
19. Uruguay
20. Hungary
21. Portugal
22. Lithuania
23. Andorra
24. Czech Republic
25. Great Britain

Buzzy--Bee Nov 11th 2010 1:35 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 8976823)
NZ has done well beating all those 1st world countries ;)

The top 25 countries

1. France
2. Australia
3. Switzerland
4. Germany
5. New Zealand
6. Luxembourg
7. US
8. Belgium
9. Canada
10. Italy
11. Netherlands
12. Norway
13. Austria
14. Liechtenstein
15. Malta
16. Denmark
17. Spain
18. Finland
19. Uruguay
20. Hungary
21. Portugal
22. Lithuania
23. Andorra
24. Czech Republic
25. Great Britain

Top 25 at what?

BB

bcworld Nov 11th 2010 1:52 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 8976823)
NZ has done well beating all those 1st world countries ;)

The top 25 countries

1. France
2. Australia
3. Switzerland
4. Germany
5. New Zealand
6. Luxembourg
7. US
8. Belgium
9. Canada
10. Italy
11. Netherlands
12. Norway
13. Austria
14. Liechtenstein
15. Malta
16. Denmark
17. Spain
18. Finland
19. Uruguay
20. Hungary
21. Portugal
22. Lithuania
23. Andorra
24. Czech Republic
25. Great Britain

My initial advice to the OP would be to ignore any posts which refer to NZ as third world, bongo bongo or anything of that ilk! Pure silly talk.

You could refer back to the recent UN HDI if you wish, didn't that put Aus and NZ in positions 2 & 3 respectively? Hardly sounds like the mark of a 3rd world country.

fish.01 Nov 11th 2010 2:37 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 8976846)
Top 25 at what?

BB

Rugby ;)

Alfresco Nov 11th 2010 3:09 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 8976931)
Rugby ;)

5th sounds about right for rugby. :lol:

Amazulu Nov 11th 2010 3:28 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 8976931)
Rugby ;)

Wow, the Swiss national rugby team, aka The Cuckoos, have come up in the world recently.

bourbon-biscuit Nov 11th 2010 5:58 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by allisonwantstoemigrate (Post 8975869)
......I can't decide!

I've printed off both sets of forms to register with nursing councils in both countries but I can't decide which country to go for!!

There are jobs similar to what I do now (school nurse), and I've visited both countries, although have experienced NZ more than Aus.

I'll be emigrating on my own; does anyone have experience of being single and emigrating on their own to the other side of the world???

Thanks for any suggestions or info! :confused:

If you're really not sure and want to keep your options open for future mind-changing, then go for Oz as the process of hopping the ditch and trying NZ for a while is much, much simpler that way. When registered as a nurse in one country, registering in the other is a doodle under the mutual recognition act (simple form and fee, quick and painless). Australian PR will grant you living and working rights in NZ, whereas NZ PR will not give you the same rights in Oz so Australian PR is a better investment of your cash in a way. The route from PR--->citizenship is quicker in Oz too I think.

Lenmil Nov 11th 2010 7:17 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 
Australia for sure. Better job prospects etc.

Alfresco Nov 11th 2010 7:21 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 
Australia, unless you still want to be cold. :)

bcworld Nov 11th 2010 7:25 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8977228)
Australia, unless you still want to be cold. :)

I was in NZ 2 weeks ago...the weather was better there than in Melbourne at the same time!

Alfresco Nov 11th 2010 7:39 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 8977233)
I was in NZ 2 weeks ago...the weather was better there than in Melbourne at the same time!

Melbourne is not too far way from NZ, and as Yoda would say:-

"One swallow, a summer does not make! Mmmmm."

;)

Buzzy--Bee Nov 11th 2010 7:44 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8977252)
Melbourne is not too far way from NZ,

No. Only the same distance as between London and Moscow. In fact on a clear day you can see New Zealand from Philip Island if you look hard. :rofl:

BB

Alfresco Nov 11th 2010 7:49 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 8977259)
No. Only the same distance as between London and Moscow. In fact on a clear day you can see New Zealand from Philip Island if you look hard. :rofl:

BB

Only 100km's, but I'll allow you a bit of latitude there. :)

millsworld Nov 11th 2010 7:50 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 
I'd go for Australia, a lot more going on here.
Employment wise and lifestyle wise there's more to choose in Australia.

Expat Kiwi Nov 11th 2010 10:34 pm

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 
Heaps more! There's really is no competition between the two. That's why there's so many Kiwis over here! :thumbsup:

allisonwantstoemigrate Nov 12th 2010 4:56 am

Re: Help! Australia or New Zealand....
 
Thanks for all your replies!

I never realised about the whole Aus PR thing.....and that it is easier to go to Aus first then NZ if I didn't like it.

I'm giving that some serious consideration!

:D


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