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Old Oct 31st 2009, 5:01 pm
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Finally some cool heaxed analysis of refugees etc. from a regional newspaper, seems more tolerance in the "real Australia" versus cosmopolitan cities?

IMMIGRATION has held a special place in the fears of many Australians but the figures tell a different story to that told by Liberal MP Kevin Andrews. We're hardly over-stuffed. The data on asylum seekers and refugees in particular provides some much-needed perspective on the current national debate.
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Originally Posted by balkanghost
Finally some cool heaxed analysis of refugees etc. from a regional newspaper, seems more tolerance in the "real Australia" versus cosmopolitan cities?

IMMIGRATION has held a special place in the fears of many Australians but the figures tell a different story to that told by Liberal MP Kevin Andrews. We're hardly over-stuffed. The data on asylum seekers and refugees in particular provides some much-needed perspective on the current national debate.
They should crack down on all these thousands of Chinese and Indians enrolling in bogus hairdressing and Cooking schools , that only interested in Getting Permanet Residency not the courses they are studying, many forging bank account and work experience records.

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Finally some cool heaxed analysis of refugees etc. from a regional newspaper, seems more tolerance in the "real Australia" versus cosmopolitan cities?
If anything being number 2 in the world for accepting refugees from the UN program would reinforce the concept that Australia is doing its part and we should retain our robust policy.
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They should crack down on all these thousands of Chinese and Indians enrolling in bogus hairdressing and Cooking schools , that only interested in Getting Permanet Residency not the courses they are studying, many forging bank account and work experience records.
If the hairdressing & cooking schools are 'bogus' then surely they should crack down on them...problem solved. Or would that affect the inflow of $'s to the education sector?
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They should crack down on all these thousands of Chinese and Indians enrolling in bogus hairdressing and Cooking schools , that only interested in Getting Permanet Residency not the courses they are studying, many forging bank account and work experience records.
But that would reduce the numbers the REIV need to stimulate the local property market

Bit harder to say 50 people arriving every week versus 10k
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Originally Posted by balkanghost
Finally some cool heaxed analysis of refugees etc. from a regional newspaper, seems more tolerance in the "real Australia" versus cosmopolitan cities?

IMMIGRATION has held a special place in the fears of many Australians but the figures tell a different story to that told by Liberal MP Kevin Andrews. We're hardly over-stuffed. The data on asylum seekers and refugees in particular provides some much-needed perspective on the current national debate.
Looking at that story, I wonder about its accuracy:

Kevin Andrews
In 2007-08, 173,290 people permanently migrated to Australia. In addition, there were another 544,000 temporary migrants to the country, excluding the five million visitors. That’s close to three-quarters of a million extra people residing here in a year.
Punch response
When Mr Andrews informed Punch readers of the latest migration figures of 173,290 permanent migrants, he neglected to mention that in the last year of the Howard government the number of permanent migrants to Australia reached 184,438.
No detail of where they got that 184,438 number ?


Actual numbers
Migration Program Outcomes Statistics

2005-06 142,930 actual
2006-07 148,200 actual (last full year of John Howard)
2007-08 158,630 actual
2008-09 171,320 actual
2009-10 168,700 proposed
http://www.immi.gov.au/media/statist...ts/migrant.htm


That 183,438 could of course have been a number from the Sydney Morning Herald in July, when they quoted:
2008/09 253,415 in net migration (total arrivals minus total departures)
2007/08 184,438 in net migration (total arrivals minus total departures)

But then, that is not the same statistic that Kevin Andrews was talking about, and that would be like comparing oranges to strawberries !

I wonder if the Punch have a political alliance, or just make mistakes like the rest of us ?
 
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New Zealand immigrants are NEVER counted in the migration programme figures so they NEVER will be accurate.

Its estimated over 30,000 NZ citizens migrated to OZ in the last year, so you can add that on top of the immigration figures.
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Originally Posted by balkanghost
IMMIGRATION has held a special place in the fears of many Australians but the figures tell a different story to that told by Liberal MP Kevin Andrews. We're hardly over-stuffed. The data on asylum seekers and refugees in particular provides some much-needed perspective on the current national debate.
Exactly. Very sensible comment there.
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Originally Posted by balkanghost
Finally some cool heaxed analysis of refugees etc. from a regional newspaper, seems more tolerance in the "real Australia" versus cosmopolitan cities?

IMMIGRATION has held a special place in the fears of many Australians but the figures tell a different story to that told by Liberal MP Kevin Andrews. We're hardly over-stuffed. The data on asylum seekers and refugees in particular provides some much-needed perspective on the current national debate.
Be ultra tough now to stop it turning into a flood.

Not one boat person.
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drown them all ,pesky illegals .shoot to kill . how dare they come to the greatest country in the world uninvited like the white man . Naughty naughty
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