IT Graduates Find it Tough
Jan 13th 2004, 1:39 am
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IT Graduates Find it Tough
http://australianit.news.com.au/arti...nbv%5E,00.html
Graduate prospects brighter
Diana Thorp
JANUARY 13, 2004
LAST year's computer science graduates began looking for work in the toughest job market for a decade.
The percentage of graduates working full-time within four months of finishing their degrees fell to its lowest level in 10 years.
This figure dropped for the third year running for computer science and electronic/computer engineering graduates.
The 2003 Australian universities Graduate Destination Survey reveals 80.1 per cent of bachelor degree graduates available for full-time employment last year were in full-time work within four months of completing their degrees, but only 68.1 per cent of computer science graduates and 73.5 per cent of electronic/computer engineering graduates were in full-time work.
In comparison, 88.2 per cent of computer science graduates, and 91.9 per cent of electronic/computer engineering graduates, were in full-time work in 2000
Graduate prospects brighter
Diana Thorp
JANUARY 13, 2004
LAST year's computer science graduates began looking for work in the toughest job market for a decade.
The percentage of graduates working full-time within four months of finishing their degrees fell to its lowest level in 10 years.
This figure dropped for the third year running for computer science and electronic/computer engineering graduates.
The 2003 Australian universities Graduate Destination Survey reveals 80.1 per cent of bachelor degree graduates available for full-time employment last year were in full-time work within four months of completing their degrees, but only 68.1 per cent of computer science graduates and 73.5 per cent of electronic/computer engineering graduates were in full-time work.
In comparison, 88.2 per cent of computer science graduates, and 91.9 per cent of electronic/computer engineering graduates, were in full-time work in 2000
Jan 13th 2004, 6:10 pm
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Computer science graduates are usually only really qualified to be entry level programmers - probably a currently in use language such as Java or C++.
These skills aren't in that much demand because of the popularity of these courses and skills over the last few years - universities have been churning out java programmers for a while now. Also the globalisation of IT means that many of these jobs are being done in the battery farm programming units out in India.
The other thing that is happening is that established programmers are retraining and corporations such as IBM are developing tools that dumb down the programming role to help in this.
In short programming is becoming less and less valued.
There will always be a demand for expert programmers, but graduates won't be considered as such.
There still appears to be a demand for established IT professionals - but I think it's getting very very tough at the entry level.
These skills aren't in that much demand because of the popularity of these courses and skills over the last few years - universities have been churning out java programmers for a while now. Also the globalisation of IT means that many of these jobs are being done in the battery farm programming units out in India.
The other thing that is happening is that established programmers are retraining and corporations such as IBM are developing tools that dumb down the programming role to help in this.
In short programming is becoming less and less valued.
There will always be a demand for expert programmers, but graduates won't be considered as such.
There still appears to be a demand for established IT professionals - but I think it's getting very very tough at the entry level.
Jan 13th 2004, 6:24 pm
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When these graduates chose their courses, 1999 dot.com boom & y2k, they must have felt they were joining a secure profession. Since that time the industry has seen a huge change of fortunes and is now massively oversupplied. The clever ones will leverage their knowledges to move more into business roles than pure IT roles.
Jan 13th 2004, 6:24 pm
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Originally posted by cutgrass
Computer science graduates are usually only really qualified to be entry level programmers - probably a currently in use language such as Java or C++.
These skills aren't in that much demand because of the popularity of these courses and skills over the last few years - universities have been churning out java programmers for a while now. Also the globalisation of IT means that many of these jobs are being done in the battery farm programming units out in India.
The other thing that is happening is that established programmers are retraining and corporations such as IBM are developing tools that dumb down the programming role to help in this.
In short programming is becoming less and less valued.
There will always be a demand for expert programmers, but graduates won't be considered as such.
There still appears to be a demand for established IT professionals - but I think it's getting very very tough at the entry level.
Computer science graduates are usually only really qualified to be entry level programmers - probably a currently in use language such as Java or C++.
These skills aren't in that much demand because of the popularity of these courses and skills over the last few years - universities have been churning out java programmers for a while now. Also the globalisation of IT means that many of these jobs are being done in the battery farm programming units out in India.
The other thing that is happening is that established programmers are retraining and corporations such as IBM are developing tools that dumb down the programming role to help in this.
In short programming is becoming less and less valued.
There will always be a demand for expert programmers, but graduates won't be considered as such.
There still appears to be a demand for established IT professionals - but I think it's getting very very tough at the entry level.
Even anybody dropping out of IT for a year or two will find it very difficult to get back in.Its a buyers market now and the employeers know it.
Also remember that anybody coming out in the past year or so would have opted for an IT course(3/4 years ago) at the height of the DotCom years.So the boom is over and they are coming out in to the carnage(maybe been a bit over dramatic there)
Jan 13th 2004, 6:26 pm
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Originally posted by ossigeno
When these graduates chose their courses, 1999 dot.com boom & y2k, they must have felt they were joining a secure profession. Since that time the industry has seen a huge change of fortunes and is now massively oversupplied. The clever ones will leverage their knowledges to move more into business roles than pure IT roles.
When these graduates chose their courses, 1999 dot.com boom & y2k, they must have felt they were joining a secure profession. Since that time the industry has seen a huge change of fortunes and is now massively oversupplied. The clever ones will leverage their knowledges to move more into business roles than pure IT roles.
Jan 13th 2004, 7:49 pm
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Originally posted by ossigeno
When these graduates chose their courses, 1999 dot.com boom & y2k, they must have felt they were joining a secure profession. Since that time the industry has seen a huge change of fortunes and is now massively oversupplied. The clever ones will leverage their knowledges to move more into business roles than pure IT roles.
When these graduates chose their courses, 1999 dot.com boom & y2k, they must have felt they were joining a secure profession. Since that time the industry has seen a huge change of fortunes and is now massively oversupplied. The clever ones will leverage their knowledges to move more into business roles than pure IT roles.
IT is NOT an industry with a prosperous future unless you have expertise or a niche to offer.
Much better to get a trade, Plumbing, Electrician etc, far better prospects!
