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bizkitgto Nov 8th 2012 6:02 pm

Gorgon Project Update
 
Hey guys,

I haven't heard much on the Chevron-Gorgon mega-project these days, does anyone know how the project is progressing? Does anyone know when the job hiring will start again for commissioning/ready for operations positions? They say project completion by 2014....however I've heard rumors that date could slide to 2015. I was hoping to apply for an engineering position.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

B

daunted Nov 8th 2012 7:19 pm

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Originally Posted by bizkitgto (Post 10373895)
Hey guys,

I haven't heard much on the Chevron-Gorgon mega-project these days, does anyone know how the project is progressing? Does anyone know when the job hiring will start again for commissioning/ready for operations positions? They say project completion by 2014....however I've heard rumors that date could slide to 2015. I was hoping to apply for an engineering position.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

B


have you checked and/or registered on Chevron website? Know several people who have recently been hired for gorgon

northernbird Nov 8th 2012 7:38 pm

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Originally Posted by bizkitgto (Post 10373895)
Hey guys,

I haven't heard much on the Chevron-Gorgon mega-project these days, does anyone know how the project is progressing? Does anyone know when the job hiring will start again for commissioning/ready for operations positions? They say project completion by 2014....however I've heard rumors that date could slide to 2015. I was hoping to apply for an engineering position.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

B

Still in the design phase as my husband is up in Malaysia working on it.

upyerfud Nov 8th 2012 10:45 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10373965)
Still in the design phase as my husband is up in Malaysia working on it.

Largely incorrect. The part he works on may still be in the design phase. The vast majority was designed months/years ago. Expect commissioning of first train starting in late 2014. Other two in 2015/16. First LNG mid 2015?

northernbird Nov 8th 2012 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by upyerfud (Post 10374132)
Largely incorrect. The part he works on may still be in the design phase. The vast majority was designed months/years ago. Expect commissioning of first train starting in late 2014. Other two in 2015/16. First LNG mid 2015?

Apologies for my misleading post.

bizkitgto Nov 9th 2012 3:28 am

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Originally Posted by daunted (Post 10373944)
have you checked and/or registered on Chevron website? Know several people who have recently been hired for gorgon

Yes, I checked recently and they say all positions are filled, but I assume that means until the commissioning phase begins and they'll start hiring soon. Usually they'd hire commissioning and operations people at the same time a year before they expect to start commissioning. The website is pretty weak on project schedule details.

keel Nov 9th 2012 1:32 pm

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Originally Posted by bizkitgto (Post 10373895)
Hey guys,

I haven't heard much on the Chevron-Gorgon mega-project these days, does anyone know how the project is progressing? Does anyone know when the job hiring will start again for commissioning/ready for operations positions? They say project completion by 2014....however I've heard rumors that date could slide to 2015. I was hoping to apply for an engineering position.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks,

B

I've been working on the welding documentation for our workshop in Thailand for a couple of months now.
It's a pity there isn't more of this work happening in Perth:thumbdown:.

Keel

Pomster Nov 9th 2012 8:48 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10374141)
Apologies for my misleading post.

so what is your husband doing in Malaysia?
Maybe he is a spy and his cover has just been blown?

northernbird Nov 9th 2012 8:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Pomster (Post 10375537)
so what is your husband doing in Malaysia?
Maybe he is a spy and his cover has just been blown?

:) secret spy work for a french organisation doing some sort of design for some part of Gorgon. That's what he tells me anyway. Clearly another poster here thinks differently.

Pomster Nov 9th 2012 8:55 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10375545)
:) secret spy work for a french organisation doing some sort of design for some part of Gorgon. That's what he tells me anyway. Clearly another poster here thinks differently.

well the only conclusion must be
1) your husband is deluded into think he is working on the Gorgon project when he is working on something else altogether.
2) he is working on Gorgonzola manufacturing
3) he is a spy

OR
(out on a limb here)
the other poster is wrong and your husband is telling the truth about where he works!!!!
(my former employer was heavily involved in Gorgon...and I was talking to someone in HR about forthcoming recruitment just today)

DanSolihull Nov 9th 2012 9:29 pm

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I'm posting this from Barrow Island as I type. Seems to be going well but I've only been here one swing! The flies are out in force!!!

keel Nov 10th 2012 3:05 pm

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Originally Posted by DanSolihull (Post 10375606)
I'm posting this from Barrow Island as I type. Seems to be going well but I've only been here one swing! The flies are out in force!!!

I have heard it's very hot up there. So to stay on the safe side I'd avoid full strength beer.:sneaky:

Keel

bizkitgto Nov 11th 2012 2:31 pm

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Originally Posted by DanSolihull (Post 10375606)
I'm posting this from Barrow Island as I type. Seems to be going well but I've only been here one swing! The flies are out in force!!!

Hey Dan, any idea when they expect to start commissioning? Will they make the 2014 startup date?

bobbyfaescotland Dec 10th 2012 5:19 pm

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Just been offered a job there, start April 2013. Looks like first gas is going to later part of 2014

Amazulu Dec 10th 2012 5:50 pm

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Plenty still to be done on Gorgon. Several EPCMs in Perth have loads of Gorgon work starting next year.

bizkitgto Jun 12th 2013 1:57 pm

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How's the natural gas situation going on out West, still lot's of growth going on?

bobbyfaescotland Jun 12th 2013 3:24 pm

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Originally Posted by bizkitgto (Post 10754294)
How's the natural gas situation going on out West, still lot's of growth going on?

Gorgon are on the last recruitment drive then it's just Wheatstone for Chevron. Woodside are not looking just now and inpex will be looking soon but you have QGC, ConocoPhillips and Santos on the East coast but you would have to live in Gladstone.

AusManCometh Jun 12th 2013 6:22 pm

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60% through the execution phase at present, first gas target end 2014.

La Vida loca Jun 14th 2013 10:05 am

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Gladstone.... Just tragic....

Kelli28 Jun 14th 2013 1:36 pm

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Originally Posted by La Vida loca (Post 10757526)
Gladstone.... Just tragic....

I've lived there and I prefer it to Perth !

DeepSix Jun 15th 2013 6:00 pm

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I'm currently there...:eek:

and.. my contract is finishing and will be looking for new work.. which i suspect means Perth again..:fingerscrossed:
ah well.. saddle up the wife and kids and start packing..:unsure:

La Vida loca Jun 16th 2013 9:22 am

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Originally Posted by Kelli28 (Post 10757685)
I've lived there and I prefer it to Perth !

In what respect?

bizkitgto Jun 29th 2013 10:57 am

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Originally Posted by DeepSix (Post 10759037)
I'm currently there...:eek:

and.. my contract is finishing and will be looking for new work.. which i suspect means Perth again..:fingerscrossed:
ah well.. saddle up the wife and kids and start packing..:unsure:

Are there any signs work in Perth is slowing down? Steady growth until 2020?

DeepSix Jun 29th 2013 1:37 pm

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Originally Posted by bizkitgto (Post 10778205)
Are there any signs work in Perth is slowing down? Steady growth until 2020?

Dont know about Perth at this stage. The reference was to Gladstone as there was a bit of humour going on about it

As it stands though.. looks like i will be staying put as another project here in sunny Gladstone ( read fluro hell ) has offered me a new role...which is a last minute develpment. :thumbup:

but it has me on project wages for another year or two.. so musnt grumble :thumbsup:

browneyed Jun 29th 2013 4:52 pm

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Hi

My brother is a qualified welder/boilermaker and has made numerous enquiries in person and online to the agents but gets knocked back. So its good to know that there are jobs going.

Does anyone have any tips on how he can get thro to the next step in securing (at least) an interview for the project. He's been looking for jobs for a while now in Perth. Ideally he wants to work on the trains/railways etc.

Any tips would be great.

keel Jun 29th 2013 5:10 pm

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Best tip would be to get into one of the smaller companies that support the larger ones for the construction. He should go around Kwinanna and Henderson looking to see which Fab shops are making things for the projects. They often send teams out to install the equipment after fabrication. Not sure about the rail projects though.

Keel


Originally Posted by browneyed (Post 10778399)
Hi

My brother is a qualified welder/boilermaker and has made numerous enquiries in person and online to the agents but gets knocked back. So its good to know that there are jobs going.

Does anyone have any tips on how he can get thro to the next step in securing (at least) an interview for the project. He's been looking for jobs for a while now in Perth. Ideally he wants to work on the trains/railways etc.

Any tips would be great.


keel Jun 29th 2013 5:15 pm

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The work is slowing down fast in Perth. I was recently working for one of the big companies in the city but got finished up about 2 months ago due to the slowdown in work. A lot of others from the office will be going in the next month or so. And yet that same company announced this week that it's opening an office in Glasgow to help with the work but they promise this will not effect the Perth staff.:sneaky:

Keel


Originally Posted by bizkitgto (Post 10778205)
Are there any signs work in Perth is slowing down? Steady growth until 2020?


browneyed Jun 29th 2013 5:22 pm

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Thanks for that information.

brian.w Jul 2nd 2013 5:54 pm

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been here 4 weeks now and been applying asking around for 2 of them weeks and hardly any reply back,and any that did say things are slow,i know it was 10 years ago i was traveling here and got the same job 4 months later and was always getting calls for work,now i have moved my family over here im wondering if i did the right thing,i have worked a lot offshore back in the uk giving up a job i was on offshore after being there 2 years with possible more years on that,and hardly been out of work back in the uk,things i think have changed here and im now wondering if i made a huge mistake in coming over here,I thought oil and gad industry was booming here then why am i sitting here looking for work?I know i would get work next day back home,im a pipefitter just incase anyone asks.Hope things get better as i would hate to consider going back to uk which would be a costly mistake for me.

Bonnie Scotland Jul 2nd 2013 6:29 pm

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There maybe troubles ahead,
there maybe layoffs
and pay offs
and long lies in bed

Sorry probarbly didnt help....

keel Jul 3rd 2013 1:03 am

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Aye Brian

Things have changed over here in the last few years.

You might have noticed a lot of the workshops have closed since you were over here last. The old Western Construction shop was taken over by Downers and closed its doors 2 months ago. The huge workshop called Civmech has no work and will close soon and all this during the biggest boom WA has ever seen. Its as if the engineering industry has gouged itself to death. Everything is being sent overseas to be constructed. When this boom is finally over there will be no industry left.

I wouldn't jump back to Scotland just yet though. 4 weeks is not a long time to get your foot in the door. Because most of the work now is for the big oil companies the recruiting processes become very drawn out.

Keel


Originally Posted by brian.w (Post 10782268)
been here 4 weeks now and been applying asking around for 2 of them weeks and hardly any reply back,and any that did say things are slow,i know it was 10 years ago i was traveling here and got the same job 4 months later and was always getting calls for work,now i have moved my family over here im wondering if i did the right thing,i have worked a lot offshore back in the uk giving up a job i was on offshore after being there 2 years with possible more years on that,and hardly been out of work back in the uk,things i think have changed here and im now wondering if i made a huge mistake in coming over here,I thought oil and gad industry was booming here then why am i sitting here looking for work?I know i would get work next day back home,im a pipefitter just incase anyone asks.Hope things get better as i would hate to consider going back to uk which would be a costly mistake for me.


SUPERCAD Jul 3rd 2013 10:41 pm

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We are seeing a big pull back.. most of our fabrication work goes offshore as it can be 4 time cheaper from china landed here..

seems to me Europe is on a roll with off shore work Scotland being one of the hubs

jimbo_d Jul 4th 2013 1:08 am

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Engineering in Perth feels like London 10 years ago where things got a bit pricey and everything that could be done overseas was. In that time London (and Aberdeen) have gone full swing around as wages stagnated and the pound dropped, now UK is booming for engineering work as it's lower cost and good quality. I expect the same to happen here with wages to drop for the next few years for those lucky to hang on, no more big detailed design jobs after Roy Hill for quite some time. There will be lots of O&M stuff though for existing plants and as the dollar and wages fall more and more will come back in - I hope... It's really tough in Perth at the moment, and as the engineering side is at the front I would think there's a tough few years ahead for the rest here as it flows through.

La Vida loca Jul 5th 2013 12:47 pm

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People have outpriced themselves.

Full Stop.

SUPERCAD Jul 6th 2013 6:17 pm

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Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 10784386)
Engineering in Perth feels like London 10 years ago where things got a bit pricey and everything that could be done overseas was. In that time London (and Aberdeen) have gone full swing around as wages stagnated and the pound dropped, now UK is booming for engineering work as it's lower cost and good quality. I expect the same to happen here with wages to drop for the next few years for those lucky to hang on, no more big detailed design jobs after Roy Hill for quite some time. There will be lots of O&M stuff though for existing plants and as the dollar and wages fall more and more will come back in - I hope... It's really tough in Perth at the moment, and as the engineering side is at the front I would think there's a tough few years ahead for the rest here as it flows through.

:goodpost:

One of the problems i see here is the wage expectation of relatively unskilled labor coming out of the mines. There is work about but people need to travel for it i think the days have gone were you can expect to stay in one place for your entire career, I realise that this can still be done but the planet is a very small place these days aand if you want the premium projects you cant sit on your hands.
Employers can afford to be very choosey at the moment and cherry pick the better workers.
Off shore wind in Europe is going gang busters at the moment and all the related onshore backup work which can only be good for the UK, there are some great success stories related to this in the press. Germany giving the green light to 1360ish new turbines a few weeks back is a very small part of this industry but it seems to be were Europe is heading .

Amazulu Jul 6th 2013 9:42 pm

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Originally Posted by La Vida loca (Post 10786594)
People have outpriced themselves.

Full Stop.

Not so. The price of labour is based on the availability of labour (which can have many factors). When labour is in short supply, the price goes up - and vice versa

Companies pay what they need to pay to secure the labour they require. No profitable company pays more for labour than they need to

People don't outprice themselves - the market decides

Basic economics

La Vida loca Jul 6th 2013 10:48 pm

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People have outpriced themselves... as now they cant accept a lower wage...

Big mortgages, loans, cars, boats, fancy holidays.... a slow down approaching.... basic economics..... a severe correction,...... ooops can this be a recession? Im unsure.

Who can afford this, what about billy the mechanic on $50k a year in the city, took a job on $120k but now as no job, no real qualifications, what does he say to his wife and the $400k mortgage he has?

Amazulu Jul 7th 2013 1:08 pm

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Originally Posted by La Vida loca (Post 10788130)
People have outpriced themselves... as now they cant accept a lower wage...

Big mortgages, loans, cars, boats, fancy holidays.... a slow down approaching.... basic economics..... a severe correction,...... ooops can this be a recession? Im unsure.

Who can afford this, what about billy the mechanic on $50k a year in the city, took a job on $120k but now as no job, no real qualifications, what does he say to his wife and the $400k mortgage he has?

People living beyond their means - who'd of thunk it?

A particularly Australian phenomenon


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