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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
(Post 7038894)
This is interesting.
I've just had some teaching colleagues in the UK look over the Maths TEE paper. In their opinion it was more at AS level rather than A level. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by hoveactually
(Post 7038715)
If there are parents on here who are perfectly happy with the education their children are receiving then I imagine that they won't care less what anyone else has to say. They will know, as all parents do, that what suits your child may not necessarily suit another.
As far as I can see the comments made about the school are by parents who have had children there rather than speculation or something that has been overheard. Whilst it's great that you think that the kids you saw coming out of school were well behaved, personally, I have always taught my children good manners and behaviour - it is not something I would expect them to have to be taught at High school. I want my children to be educated at school and so, whilst being rounded and confident is all very lovely, TEE scores do matter. If wanting all that makes me a smug, patronising Stepford wife so be it, I can live with that. That is a fair point, I was just pointing out that there are kids at the school doing very well indeed who also feel that Warnbro school is educating their kids well and they probably get tired/upset at having to defend it.:) |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
(Post 7039034)
That is a fair point, I was just pointing out that there are kids at the school doing very well indeed who also feel that Warnbro school is educating their kids well and they probably get tired/upset at having to defend it.:)
At the local primary schools students start of with Bahasa Indonesia, Italian or another language. When they come to Warnbro High, the language teacher has no choice but to start all over again, some are bored and others wonder, what for they studied another language and can't continue. Doesn't make sense to me. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
(Post 7039034)
That is a fair point, I was just pointing out that there are kids at the school doing very well indeed who also feel that Warnbro school is educating their kids well and they probably get tired/upset at having to defend it.:)
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 7039140)
They don't have to defend it Sam. If they are happy there that is all that matters. To me the TEE results are important and are indicative of the schools teaching performance and I personally have rejected my local state school because the TEE results are appalling. It isn't because I am a snob or think myself better than parents who choose to send their kids there it is because it is my right as a parent to choose the best for MY child. I am sorry if the few comments I made about a particular schools results were taken as a personal slight on parents that send their kids there.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 7039140)
They don't have to defend it Sam. If they are happy there that is all that matters. To me the TEE results are important and are indicative of the schools teaching performance and I personally have rejected my local state school because the TEE results are appalling. It isn't because I am a snob or think myself better than parents who choose to send their kids there it is because it is my right as a parent to choose the best for MY child. I am sorry if the few comments I made about a particular schools results were taken as a personal slight on parents that send their kids there.
I've been trying to think of a way which might help prospective British migrants to WA become more informed - I wonder if the owners of this site should set up a sticky thread with some dos and don'ts for parents moving into the state who, understandably are in the dark about 'good' and 'bad' schools... |
Re: good schools in perth area
I can't believe that I have just read all 70 something replies to this thread. I'm riveted!
We (Mum / Dad / 3 kids now aged 8,5 & 4) moved to Perth from Scotland 3 years ago and rented in Claremont for 2 years before buying a house in Shenton Park (next to Subiaco). When we first arrived we tried really hard to rent a place in the northern suburbs because the new housing estates were similar to where we lived in the UK and there were lots of families but the market was too hot (properties leased after 1 hour on the market) and we ended up spending twice as much to rent in Claremont. My son started the local state school at the begining of Year 1 ( now just about finished Year 3) and I am very happy with the education he is receiving - although I do think the curriculum isn't as challenging as in the UK. He did very well in the new national tests 'NAPLAN' - and was above the national average for all areas. My only concern is what will happen as he progresses through primary and into senior school. Currently about 80% of his school leave in year 5 to go to private school - leaving less than 20 pupils to make up a combined year 5/6/7. At first I thought fantastic, great to have a small class size but the reality is that you could end up the only boy / girl in your class with no peer group / friends that will continue onto ( a much bigger) senior school. Also having blown the budget big time to buy in this area - Shenton College catchment - we will not be sending our children to private school. On hearing this most of the other parents appear horrified and hint that I will ruin my childrens' future if I send them to a state school. Even teachers I have spoken to have urged me to send them 'private' to be with liked minded peers who share similar 'values' !!!! I was raised to believe that a decent education was a right and not a privilege and that you attended your local state school (unless yor parents were royalty or mega rich). Do you take the chance, keep the cash for your retirement and 'ruin' your children's future or sacrifice every penny for something that you believe you are entilted to as a taxpayer ! Also - sounds like I was lucky school wise not to settle in the northern suburbs. In my opinion all the local primary schools nearby are pretty good with good facilities, staff and very supportive P&C associations. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by elaine67
(Post 7039309)
I can't believe that I have just read all 70 something replies to this thread. I'm riveted!
We (Mum / Dad / 3 kids now aged 8,5 & 4) moved to Perth from Scotland 3 years ago and rented in Claremont for 2 years before buying a house in Shenton Park (next to Subiaco). When we first arrived we tried really hard to rent a place in the northern suburbs because the new housing estates were similar to where we lived in the UK and there were lots of families but the market was too hot (properties leased after 1 hour on the market) and we ended up spending twice as much to rent in Claremont. My son started the local state school at the begining of Year 1 ( now just about finished Year 3) and I am very happy with the education he is receiving - although I do think the curriculum isn't as challenging as in the UK. He did very well in the new national tests 'NAPLAN' - and was above the national average for all areas. My only concern is what will happen as he progresses through primary and into senior school. Currently about 80% of his school leave in year 5 to go to private school - leaving less than 20 pupils to make up a combined year 5/6/7. At first I thought fantastic, great to have a small class size but the reality is that you could end up the only boy / girl in your class with no peer group / friends that will continue onto ( a much bigger) senior school. Also having blown the budget big time to buy in this area - Shenton College catchment - we will not be sending our children to private school. On hearing this most of the other parents appear horrified and hint that I will ruin my childrens' future if I send them to a state school. Even teachers I have spoken to have urged me to send them 'private' to be with liked minded peers who share similar 'values' !!!! I was raised to believe that a decent education was a right and not a privilege and that you attended your local state school (unless yor parents were royalty or mega rich). Do you take the chance, keep the cash for your retirement and 'ruin' your children's future or sacrifice every penny for something that you believe you are entilted to as a taxpayer ! Also - sounds like I was lucky school wise not to settle in the northern suburbs. In my opinion all the local primary schools nearby are pretty good with good facilities, staff and very supportive P&C associations. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by hoveactually
(Post 7039014)
So half an A level then?
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by elaine67
(Post 7039309)
I can't believe that I have just read all 70 something replies to this thread. I'm riveted!
We (Mum / Dad / 3 kids now aged 8,5 & 4) moved to Perth from Scotland 3 years ago and rented in Claremont for 2 years before buying a house in Shenton Park (next to Subiaco). When we first arrived we tried really hard to rent a place in the northern suburbs because the new housing estates were similar to where we lived in the UK and there were lots of families but the market was too hot (properties leased after 1 hour on the market) and we ended up spending twice as much to rent in Claremont. My son started the local state school at the begining of Year 1 ( now just about finished Year 3) and I am very happy with the education he is receiving - although I do think the curriculum isn't as challenging as in the UK. He did very well in the new national tests 'NAPLAN' - and was above the national average for all areas. My only concern is what will happen as he progresses through primary and into senior school. Currently about 80% of his school leave in year 5 to go to private school - leaving less than 20 pupils to make up a combined year 5/6/7. At first I thought fantastic, great to have a small class size but the reality is that you could end up the only boy / girl in your class with no peer group / friends that will continue onto ( a much bigger) senior school. Also having blown the budget big time to buy in this area - Shenton College catchment - we will not be sending our children to private school. On hearing this most of the other parents appear horrified and hint that I will ruin my childrens' future if I send them to a state school. Even teachers I have spoken to have urged me to send them 'private' to be with liked minded peers who share similar 'values' !!!! I was raised to believe that a decent education was a right and not a privilege and that you attended your local state school (unless yor parents were royalty or mega rich). Do you take the chance, keep the cash for your retirement and 'ruin' your children's future or sacrifice every penny for something that you believe you are entilted to as a taxpayer ! Also - sounds like I was lucky school wise not to settle in the northern suburbs. In my opinion all the local primary schools nearby are pretty good with good facilities, staff and very supportive P&C associations. We are renting from local WA family, lovely people...they have a 14 year old they are paying for private education due to the father (she is divorced and re-married) insisting state school no good, the daughter has not been doing well at school and grades poor, getting in to trouble also big on boys, (in a strict catholic school) They beleive she would be much better off in a state school for more rounded education and to learn life skills/ common sense , so there are two sides to consider..... |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 7039140)
They don't have to defend it Sam. If they are happy there that is all that matters. To me the TEE results are important and are indicative of the schools teaching performance and I personally have rejected my local state school because the TEE results are appalling. It isn't because I am a snob or think myself better than parents who choose to send their kids there it is because it is my right as a parent to choose the best for MY child. I am sorry if the few comments I made about a particular schools results were taken as a personal slight on parents that send their kids there.
Schools will always be controversial. In our local rag the front page reads quote: High rise in truancy Truancy rates and suspension rates for some public schools in the Rockingham and Kwinana areas are among the worst in the State. Three high schools have been mentioned. All can be read up on www.det.wa.edu.au and then schools online Also, this forum is not compulsory reading, it is somebody's choice. The English who I know and migrated to Perth didn't now that it exists. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by deborahjane
(Post 7034536)
Do you mean year 5 in Primary? Our Son has just finished Year 4 here and he is 9 1/2. Would go in to Year 5 in Feb but we are moving back to UK in 4 weeks time.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7049368)
No.On the education dept web site it say's that the school my 2 youngest kids are going to is a "level 5" primary.I can't find any info about what this means.It must be good because it is mentioned on the schools own website.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7049368)
No.On the education dept web site it say's that the school my 2 youngest kids are going to is a "level 5" primary.I can't find any info about what this means.It must be good because it is mentioned on the schools own website.
I think it refers to the level (seniority) of the Principal. I believe that Tapping and East Butler both have Level 5 Principals. |
Re: good schools in perth area
How old are your children?
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Re: good schools in perth area
The school is Mount Lawley primary,it was recommended to me by my sister who lives in Perth.My kids are 6,9 and 14. My 14yr old has got into Mount Lawley SHS.What school to send them to, was the main thing that was stressing me out.But it's all sorted now.:thumbsup:
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Re: good schools in perth area
My one Daughter is 14 (15 in Feb) and just finished year 9 and my Son is 9 (10 in June) and just finished year 4 here.
Can't comment on that school as not in that area. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7053347)
The school is Mount Lawley primary,it was recommended to me by my sister who lives in Perth.My kids are 6,9 and 14. My 14yr old has got into Mount Lawley SHS.What school to send them to, was the main thing that was stressing me out.But it's all sorted now.:thumbsup:
In fact I'd go so far as to say that they're crap. If you're child is academic then statistically speaking they have a significantly less than average chance of doing well in Year 12 at Mt Lawley. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
(Post 7053869)
Mount Lawley SHS Year 12 results are way below state average.
In fact I'd go so far as to say that they're crap. If you're child is academic then statistically speaking they have a significantly less than average chance of doing well in Year 12 at Mt Lawley. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by gobbyjock
(Post 7035209)
Just out of curiousity - did you speak to the school before pulling your daughter out?? What was it you dislike about it?? Just curious as I work at the school.
<<snip>> As for what's wrong with the school, what's right with it???? Your daughter may like the school, but i guess any teenager would love going to school in hotpants and wearing flipflops.........personally, i prefer a proper uniform and kids that answer their teacher with respect, just call me old fashioned, or better still, a good mum. The descipline at the school is zero, are you blind woman???? If you work there, you must be able to see what it's like. My daughter got the top score in her class in English, she'd been there one week and was one of the youngest in her class..........think that about sums it up. Just go and sit in the public library for an hour - and yes, they do have lessons in the library, if you can call them that. I actually feel sorry for the teachers, because i really do believe they try their best - only problem is, they don't seem to do any teaching, because they're too busy going from one child to another, telling them to shut up and getting loads of abusive back. I also feel sorry for the kids who want to learn, but when the class is constantly being disrupted, how can these kids hope to learn properly? <<snip>> I didn't give my reasons to the school, i just moved them, which i believe it's my right to do. To be honest, looking at my kids and their current grades, i don't think it takes a rocket scientist to work out why i moved them. And you know what, it was another English parent who i got friendly with that asked me why i'd sent my kids to the worse school in the region :eek: apparently she said, it was common knowledge what a terrible school it is and she felt it was her duty to WARN ME, because my kids are so nice and i obviously hadn't found out about the school yet. <<snip>> |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7064622)
<<snip>>
As for what's wrong with the school, what's right with it???? Your daughter may like the school, but i guess any teenager would love going to school in hotpants and wearing flipflops.........personally, i prefer a proper uniform and kids that answer their teacher with respect, just call me old fashioned, or better still, a good mum. The descipline at the school is zero, are you blind woman???? If you work there, you must be able to see what it's like. My daughter got the top score in her class in English, she'd been there one week and was one of the youngest in her class..........think that about sums it up. Just go and sit in the public library for an hour - and yes, they do have lessons in the library, if you can call them that. I actually feel sorry for the teachers, because i really do believe they try their best - only problem is, they don't seem to do any teaching, because they're too busy going from one child to another, telling them to shut up and getting loads of abusive back. I also feel sorry for the kids who want to learn, but when the class is constantly being disrupted, how can these kids hope to learn properly? <<snip>> I didn't give my reasons to the school, i just moved them, which i believe it's my right to do. To be honest, looking at my kids and their current grades, i don't think it takes a rocket scientist to work out why i moved them. And you know what, it was another English parent who i got friendly with that asked me why i'd sent my kids to the worse school in the region :eek: apparently she said, it was common knowledge what a terrible school it is and she felt it was her duty to WARN ME, because my kids are so nice and i obviously hadn't found out about the school yet. <<snip>> |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7064622)
<<snip>>
As for what's wrong with the school, what's right with it???? Your daughter may like the school, but i guess any teenager would love going to school in hotpants and wearing flipflops.........personally, i prefer a proper uniform and kids that answer their teacher with respect, just call me old fashioned, or better still, a good mum. The descipline at the school is zero, are you blind woman???? If you work there, you must be able to see what it's like. My daughter got the top score in her class in English, she'd been there one week and was one of the youngest in her class..........think that about sums it up. Just go and sit in the public library for an hour - and yes, they do have lessons in the library, if you can call them that. I actually feel sorry for the teachers, because i really do believe they try their best - only problem is, they don't seem to do any teaching, because they're too busy going from one child to another, telling them to shut up and getting loads of abusive back. I also feel sorry for the kids who want to learn, but when the class is constantly being disrupted, how can these kids hope to learn properly? <<snip>> I didn't give my reasons to the school, i just moved them, which i believe it's my right to do. To be honest, looking at my kids and their current grades, i don't think it takes a rocket scientist to work out why i moved them. And you know what, it was another English parent who i got friendly with that asked me why i'd sent my kids to the worse school in the region :eek: apparently she said, it was common knowledge what a terrible school it is and she felt it was her duty to WARN ME, because my kids are so nice and i obviously hadn't found out about the school yet. <<snip>> . Im on here under my husbands log in as I`ve more or less left this site, <<snip>> I was never anything more than polite and helpful to you & your husband and family. I have never discussed an individual kids circumstances so get your facts right - you posted on a public forum. If you don`t like the school thats fine, couldn`t care less, If you want to talk about this then please phone me, you should already have my number, so please feel free to call me and discuss this. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7064622)
Just go and sit in the public library for an hour - and yes, they do have lessons in the library, if you can call them that. I actually feel sorry for the teachers, because i really do believe they try their best - only problem is, they don't seem to do any teaching, because they're too busy going from one child to another, telling them to shut up and getting loads of abusive back. I also feel sorry for the kids who want to learn, but when the class is constantly being disrupted, how can these kids hope to learn properly?
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Re: good schools in perth area
OK,
I will remind every one that is an open public forum. Do not post information on here that can be seen and used by others. This is a web site for helping people with living in different countries. It is not for personal attacks and will not be tollerated. Please do not post accusations in any way or agressive comments. They will be removed and may result in ban for the poster. Things can go wrong and people can get very emotional with schools and their kids. I have been in several situations my self here in Oz and NZ and the UK. So please calm down. Any way it's nearly Christmas. |
Re: good schools in perth area
I didn't say you weren't polite, you were very nice,
<<snip>> But you're quite right, it is a public forum, so fair comment, i guess it's a lesson to everyone on here and certainly a lesson to me. I don't like your school, that's my opinion, you obviously do, fine, that's your opinion. I know a few kids that go to this school and they're lovely kids from decent families, I just think it's a shame that they're getting a below standard of education because of the constant disruptions they're faced with from other students. As i said, I also believe wearing a proper uniform sets standards and discipline, which is something this school doesn't enforce. Again my opinion, you may agree or not, and quite frankly, i don't care either. I'll decline the phone invitation, i think we've both said more than enough. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Lenmil
(Post 7064761)
OK,
I will remind every one that is an open public forum. Do not post information on here that can be seen and used by others. a bit late for me, hopefully it'll be a warning to others! This is a web site for helping people with living in different countries. It is not for personal attacks and will not be tollerated. Please do not post accusations in any way or agressive comments. They will be removed and may result in ban for the poster. Things can go wrong and people can get very emotional with schools and their kids. I have been in several situations my self here in Oz and NZ and the UK. So please calm down. Any way it's nearly Christmas. |
Re: good schools in perth area
I am going to wade in here to back up Lenmil and explain some of my editing.
Please please if you have a personal issue to take up with another poster do not do it on the forum. And as has already been said, can everyone please remember that whatever is said on here is said in the public domain. It happens too often and can have wide-rangng consequences for the people concerned - it can impact on their jobs or on their visas, especially if the allegations on here are not totally accurate. Can we please now get back to a logical discussion. |
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