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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
(Post 7014269)
If I was faced with sending my kids to either Carine SHS, Ocean Reef SHS, Padbury SHS or any other of the northern suburbs state high schools I would leave WA - seriously.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7011696)
I feel sick now."sacrificing my childs grammar school education" are the schools really that bad.I saw a quote on aussie move "Researchers into school effectiveness agree that schools account for only about 9% of the variance between students.Students personal backgrounds account for most of the variance in academic performance" My daughter isn't one of those kids who could recite shakespeare immediately after exiting the womb, but works hard and gets extra support at home.So I can see how the research would be true.
Just thought that i would say that as far as I am aware Rossmoyne shs and willetton shs do very well in the league and I know a lot of people who have children in both and are doing very well. My children are in primary school in Willetton and i hope they can go to the secondary schools there. Just out of interest where in kent do you live and when are you due out to perth |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 7007732)
If you don't have your child down for Hale or Scotch now then you will never get a place.
Would just like to add that I tried and succeeded in getting my son an offer of a place at both Scotch and Christ Church even though I wasnt going to bother as I thought that you had to be on the waiting list for ages which in our case was not true. We unfortunately did not have a rental secured so had little hope of a agood state school therefore for us the 2 schools above were a no brainer. Both are very good and my son is doing well at Christ Church. All I did was go in person to the school and apply, at first they were both a little less than cooperative but when you show them you are serious they were very helpful Regards Mick PS Good luck to all its not easy, been here 4 months already:ohmy: |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Ant & Kev
(Post 7014332)
Hi
Just thought that i would say that as far as I am aware Rossmoyne shs and willetton shs do very well in the league and I know a lot of people who have children in both and are doing very well. My children are in primary school in Willetton and i hope they can go to the secondary schools there. Just out of interest where in kent do you live and when are you due out to perth We live in Welling,Faraday rd just off of Hook lane.We are leaving on 30/12/2008.Getting scared now,its all starting to feel very real.It's OH last day at work next Thursday (OMG). Where in Bexley did you live? |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7016636)
Hi
We live in Welling,Faraday rd just off of Hook lane.We are leaving on 30/12/2008.Getting scared now,its all starting to feel very real.It's OH last day at work next Thursday (OMG). Where in Bexley did you live? |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Ant & Kev
(Post 7017372)
We lived in Murchison Ave, by Hurst Primary and my mum still lives in Sycamore ave, Blackfen. What area will you be settling when you arrive
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Re: good schools in perth area
We got our 10 year old a place in St Marks, had to compromise a few principles to do it, but his and his 2 sisters education comes first.
Anyone got any comments on St Marks? |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7018326)
We used to live in Blackfen on Blackfen Rd and my husband works for the hyundai dealer in Blackfen.My eldest goes to Chis n Sid Grammar.When we first arrive we will be staying with my parents they live in Gosnells.We were planning to settle in Leeming but due to this "schools" issue have decided on Mount lawley (there gose my 5 bed with a pool).I have three kids 14,9,6years. I have just found out that because my son was born in August he will be going into year 1 and not year 2.My sisters little girl is 6 and starting year 1 in Feb aswell,my sister said that my son will be way infront of everyone else in his class because they start school later over there and they will be dropping him back a year.As if moving isn't stressful enough.How old are your kids?How are you liking Willetton? Maybe we could meet up in Jan!
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Ant & Kev
(Post 7019729)
We live in riverton not far from your parents. We have a really big block and have a 5 bed, granny flat (which is now a beauty salon) and a swimming pool and still go to willetton schools which is out of the catchment area. which school are you going to apply for? I have a 7yr old boy a 5 r old boy and 1 yr girl. My son has flourished since being here
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7018326)
We used to live in Blackfen on Blackfen Rd and my husband works for the hyundai dealer in Blackfen.My eldest goes to Chis n Sid Grammar.When we first arrive we will be staying with my parents they live in Gosnells.We were planning to settle in Leeming but due to this "schools" issue have decided on Mount lawley (there gose my 5 bed with a pool).I have three kids 14,9,6years. I have just found out that because my son was born in August he will be going into year 1 and not year 2.My sisters little girl is 6 and starting year 1 in Feb aswell,my sister said that my son will be way infront of everyone else in his class because they start school later over there and they will be dropping him back a year.As if moving isn't stressful enough.How old are your kids?How are you liking Willetton? Maybe we could meet up in Jan!
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by lastone
(Post 7018685)
We got our 10 year old a place in St Marks, had to compromise a few principles to do it, but his and his 2 sisters education comes first.
Anyone got any comments on St Marks? Fortunately I got mine into St Stephens but I've heard too many stories about people going to the front of the St Mark's queue because of what dad does for a living or pretending to be regular churchgoers. I've heard lots of stories of new arrivals getting offered places whilst people like some on this forum sweat it out for years on the waiting list hoping for a place. What did you have to do? I hope you don't mind me asking. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 7021555)
Couple of questions, how did you manage to avoid the waiting list of 6 or more years like most people and what principles did you have to sacrifice to get your kids in?
Fortunately I got mine into St Stephens but I've heard too many stories about people going to the front of the St Mark's queue because of what dad does for a living or pretending to be regular churchgoers. I've heard lots of stories of new arrivals getting offered places whilst people like some on this forum sweat it out for years on the waiting list hoping for a place. What did you have to do? I hope you don't mind me asking. I've heard of people ringing up and being offered a place there and then (in spite of the "waiting list') I've heard of people being impressed with it. I also know one person who pulled the kids out of primary because they were so appalled. The statistics for St Marks are average. I'm not sure whether this is what you want or not. |
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This is a debate which always fascinates me as I was a primary school teacher in the UK. My qualifications are a Bsc hons is in Computing with post grad qualifications in Education and Mathematics. I now teach Mathematics and specialist Computing in Years 4 and 5 with the bulk of my teaching in Years 8 to 11 at the WA private school mentioned below.
Before moving here just over two years ago, my son attended a private prep school. The school had a very good reputation, excellent facilities and a lovely ethos. The downside to that school was that my son was a nervous wreck with absolutely no self esteem. Naturally, finding a good school was a major worry when we moved here, we were very fortunate to find a rental in what is considered a very good area and we got our son school into the local state primary. We are more than happy with the school, unlike many state schools the children are set regular, good quality homework and the discipline is very good. The school employs a maths specialist and a sports science specialist. Both my boys, now aged 12 and 5, have done very well at this school. They have both been on the list for an excellent WA private school since 2006 and my eldest will be starting there next year which guarantees the youngest a place in the Primary (if one becomes available) or automatic enrollment for year 8. From a logistics point of view, it would be good if my youngest got in to his brother's school for Year 1 next year but as far as his education is concerned I have no worries whatsoever if he completes all of his primary schooling at his current school. In comparison to the schools I experienced during my prac and teaching career I would say that my boys' current state school is a little behind the best state school I encountered (which was situated in a very upmarket area and no 1 in the LA league tables), in terms of the standard/level of work but way ahead in pastoral care, enrichment and child development. As far as their future private school compares to their UK private school I would say they are very similar in standard of education, facilities (better here), grounds (larger here, but it is a bigger school), behaviour, ethos and discipline (far better here), pastoral care, enrichment and child development (better here). The main difference is that the primary classes are larger here 32 vs 20 but the fees are much lower $3500 vs $25,000 hence, the larger classes. I have heard good reports about St Marks |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Ant & Kev
(Post 7021537)
Is your hubby a technician? My husband works for renault / nissan PM me before you leave and i would give you my number incase you want to me up when you arrive
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by georginabutcher
(Post 7024093)
Sent you PM.
On that note Schools fear flood of ex-private pupils The only two public schools servicing Perth’s western suburbs are bracing for a wave of enrolments over concerns that cash-strapped parents will pull their children out of private schools. http://www.thewest.com.au/default.as...ntentID=110804 |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 7021555)
Couple of questions, how did you manage to avoid the waiting list of 6 or more years like most people and what principles did you have to sacrifice to get your kids in?
Fortunately I got mine into St Stephens but I've heard too many stories about people going to the front of the St Mark's queue because of what dad does for a living or pretending to be regular churchgoers. I've heard lots of stories of new arrivals getting offered places whilst people like some on this forum sweat it out for years on the waiting list hoping for a place. What did you have to do? I hope you don't mind me asking. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by lastone
(Post 7027387)
Renth, I don't mind telling you, but by PM if that's OK?
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by lastone
(Post 7027387)
Renth, I don't mind telling you, but by PM if that's OK?
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Re: good schools in perth area
In my short experience of being in Perth, i would say the only way to get any school similar to a good UK state school is to go private. We came over and placed our kids in the local state school, within 2 weeks we'd enrolled them in a private school. My advise is, unless you can afford a good private school in Perth, stay in the UK until your kids have got their A levels and are due to go to uni, they can choose where they want to go themselves then................don't forget this is my opinion, others will disagree.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7031628)
In my short experience of being in Perth, i would say the only way to get any school similar to a good UK state school is to go private. We came over and placed our kids in the local state school, within 2 weeks we'd enrolled them in a private school. My advise is, unless you can afford a good private school in Perth, stay in the UK until your kids have got their A levels and are due to go to uni, they can choose where they want to go themselves then................don't forget this is my opinion, others will disagree.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7031628)
In my short experience of being in Perth, i would say the only way to get any school similar to a good UK state school is to go private. We came over and placed our kids in the local state school, within 2 weeks we'd enrolled them in a private school. My advise is, unless you can afford a good private school in Perth, stay in the UK until your kids have got their A levels and are due to go to uni, they can choose where they want to go themselves then................don't forget this is my opinion, others will disagree.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7031628)
In my short experience of being in Perth, i would say the only way to get any school similar to a good UK state school is to go private. We came over and placed our kids in the local state school, within 2 weeks we'd enrolled them in a private school. My advise is, unless you can afford a good private school in Perth, stay in the UK until your kids have got their A levels and are due to go to uni, they can choose where they want to go themselves then................don't forget this is my opinion, others will disagree.
You were very fortunate that there were places available at the private school. For the year group that I need all the private schools in the area are full with long waiting lists - must tell you something about the state schools in the northern suburbs. |
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We put our three in a private school in the Northern suburbs as the state one's were terrible. Unfortunately not much better although discipline slightly better than the state school but education not as good as the UK.
I agree that if you can I would leave your children in UK schools until they have completed their exams. The private schools here are not like the private schools in the UK. There just aren't enough state school that are any good so you end up paying for private anyway. We bought our's over here when they were 12, 10 and 4. Now 5 years on we are returning back to the UK. My daughter has completed TEE'S here. Found the choice of subjects and education very boring here compared to the UK and is looking forward to University in the UK. Glad the other 2 will carry on to take exams in the UK. |
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Come on everyone, name the schools!
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by deborahjane
(Post 7032088)
We put our three in a private school in the Northern suburbs as the state one's were terrible. Unfortunately not much better although discipline slightly better than the state school but education not as good as the UK.
I agree that if you can I would leave your children in UK schools until they have completed their exams. The private schools here are not like the private schools in the UK. There just aren't enough state school that are any good so you end up paying for private anyway. We bought our's over here when they were 12, 10 and 4. Now 5 years on we are returning back to the UK. My daughter has completed TEE'S here. Found the choice of subjects and education very boring here compared to the UK and is looking forward to University in the UK. Glad the other 2 will carry on to take exams in the UK. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by hoveactually
(Post 7032177)
Was there any problem securing a university place in the UK with TEE rather than A levels? as this is something else that I worry about for the future.
I think you only get to pay domestic fees if you have been living in the UK for 3 years before going to uni. |
Re: good schools in perth area
To Hoveactually
We have contacted a place in the UK called the UK Naric which is the national agency responsible for translating results from abroad in to what they are equivalent to in the UK. We have been told that TEE results are equal to A levels in the UK. When my Daughter gets her TEE results this month we can then contact them and have them translated for a fee of about 30 GBP. I know college is free for her as she in 17 this month (under 19's free even if coming back to the UK) but still unsure about University as have been told it will be 3 times higher charges for her as we have lived out of the UK for 5 years. We are waiting to see what her grades are like and then deciding if she will go to college next September or go in to University. If they are charging a daft price for her to go to university it may be worth her going to college and then on to University when the fees are better. All depends on what the fees are like and what she decides to do. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by deborahjane
(Post 7032331)
To Hoveactually
We have contacted a place in the UK called the UK Naric which is the national agency responsible for translating results from abroad in to what they are equivalent to in the UK. We have been told that TEE results are equal to A levels in the UK. When my Daughter gets her TEE results this month we can then contact them and have them translated for a fee of about 30 GBP. I know college is free for her as she in 17 this month (under 19's free even if coming back to the UK) but still unsure about University as have been told it will be 3 times higher charges for her as we have lived out of the UK for 5 years. We are waiting to see what her grades are like and then deciding if she will go to college next September or go in to University. If they are charging a daft price for her to go to university it may be worth her going to college and then on to University when the fees are better. All depends on what the fees are like and what she decides to do. |
Re: good schools in perth area
I'll certainly name and shame - Warnbro High School.
Took my daughters out after 2 weeks and got them into Maranatha Christian College - it's similar to their UK state school only smaller, but you've got to pay about $4,500 per year, whereas the UK school was free. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7032520)
I'll certainly name and shame - Warnbro High School.
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Anyone know what a level 5 primary school is (in WA)?:unsure:Is that a good thing? What does it mean?
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Re: good schools in perth area
We havejust moved to Perth 3 weeks ago, and so far so good, just got broadband today, so first time online and back to expats. Our daughter has just started Kindy (is 5 and was in reception in UK) she is at South Coogee Primary and although early days I have found people lovely. Lots of open play area, climbing frames etc etc. Also great teacher, friendly parents. My daughter has been very tearful and everyone has helped. I actually have found kindy much more structured than the UK nursery she was at, lots of fun stuff to do, educational as well....so hopefully will stay that way next year.
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Do you mean year 5 in Primary? Our Son has just finished Year 4 here and he is 9 1/2. Would go in to Year 5 in Feb but we are moving back to UK in 4 weeks time.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Evelin
(Post 7032814)
worst case scenario. Never ever in my life I would let my child go to this school.
Fortunately i found out what it was like quite quickly and moved them - i'm now paying for a similar standard of education that i had free in the UK, but not for long:thumbsup: |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7034984)
Fortunately i found out what it was like quite quickly and moved them - i'm now paying for a similar standard of education that i had free in the UK, but not for long:thumbsup:
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by mary1967
(Post 7032520)
I'll certainly name and shame - Warnbro High School.
Took my daughters out after 2 weeks and got them into Maranatha Christian College - it's similar to their UK state school only smaller, but you've got to pay about $4,500 per year, whereas the UK school was free. |
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There are parents on here that send their kids to Warnbro High school that are perfectly happy with the education that their children are receiving and can you imagine how they must feel to read some of the stuff written about it - many of which I suspect has purely been overheard and speculated.
Gobbyjock has said in previous posts that her daughter goes to this school and is doing very well indeed. In fact while I was staying there if my memory serves me, she got at least one letter commending her on her lovely daughter and how well she was doing and Gobbyjock also told me that she received another letter the other week stating the same. She is positively thriving in this school and her daughter is a pleasure to be around, a confident well rounded little girl who absolutely loves her school and has lots of friends - so what does that say about Warnbro school? Whilst educational stats are an important guideline, some of the comments are unfair and uncalled for - I cant imagine how that must make some of the parents that might send their kids to that school feel, but I can tell you that if Gobbyjocks daughter is an example of what the school can produce then I for one would love to have a daughter like that. Not only that but Mr PP and I found the other kids very well behaved when we saw them coming out of the school at hometime. Some of you might well live in your 'Stepford' area with your private schools and feel somewhat smug about looking down on schools like Warnbro, but please do not be so bloody patronising about it because that is really how some of you come across. |
Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by Professional Princess
(Post 7038357)
There are parents on here that send their kids to Warnbro High school that are perfectly happy with the education that their children are receiving and can you imagine how they must feel to read some of the stuff written about it - many of which I suspect has purely been overheard and speculated.
Gobbyjock has said in previous posts that her daughter goes to this school and is doing very well indeed. In fact while I was staying there if my memory serves me, she got at least one letter commending her on her lovely daughter and how well she was doing and Gobbyjock also told me that she received another letter the other week stating the same. She is positively thriving in this school and her daughter is a pleasure to be around, a confident well rounded little girl who absolutely loves her school and has lots of friends - so what does that say about Warnbro school? Whilst educational stats are an important guideline, some of the comments are unfair and uncalled for - I cant imagine how that must make some of the parents that might send their kids to that school feel, but I can tell you that if Gobbyjocks daughter is an example of what the school can produce then I for one would love to have a daughter like that. Not only that but Mr PP and I found the other kids very well behaved when we saw them coming out of the school at hometime. Some of you might well live in your 'Stepford' area with your private schools and feel somewhat smug about looking down on schools like Warnbro, but please do not be so bloody patronising about it because that is really how some of you come across. If there are parents on here who are perfectly happy with the education their children are receiving then I imagine that they won't care less what anyone else has to say. They will know, as all parents do, that what suits your child may not necessarily suit another. As far as I can see the comments made about the school are by parents who have had children there rather than speculation or something that has been overheard. Whilst it's great that you think that the kids you saw coming out of school were well behaved, personally, I have always taught my children good manners and behaviour - it is not something I would expect them to have to be taught at High school. I want my children to be educated at school and so, whilst being rounded and confident is all very lovely, TEE scores do matter. If wanting all that makes me a smug, patronising Stepford wife so be it, I can live with that. |
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Personally I am not getting into a slanging match about schools - I don`t need to Im very happy with my daughters education - each child is an individual with different needs my daughters are being more than met. TEE results/ league tables whilst important may not be the be all & end all the school she attends whilst being low in the TEE tables has excellent T&E, Arts and phys ed programmes. If people are unhappy with their kids education then it is up to them what they decide.
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Re: good schools in perth area
Originally Posted by deborahjane
(Post 7032331)
We have been told that TEE results are equal to A levels in the UK. . I've just had some teaching colleagues in the UK look over the Maths TEE paper. In their opinion it was more at AS level rather than A level. |
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