Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
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Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
I wonder if I can ask for some help.
Our departure date for Melbourne is being influenced slightly by the tax situation in the UK.
My understanding is that you get just over £5000 tax free to earn in a year, then the next £2000 or so is taxed at 10%.
So by my calculations if I only earned £7000 in one tax year I would be taxed a total of £200.
Does this mean that if I leave the UK having earned £7000 since April 6th 2007 (start of tax year), and complete form P85, I will get all my tax I have paid back except £200?
I rang the inland revenue and they seemed to agree with this although they wouldn't commit to anything.
Any accountants or people who have gone through this able to advise me?
Thanks
Buzzy
Our departure date for Melbourne is being influenced slightly by the tax situation in the UK.
My understanding is that you get just over £5000 tax free to earn in a year, then the next £2000 or so is taxed at 10%.
So by my calculations if I only earned £7000 in one tax year I would be taxed a total of £200.
Does this mean that if I leave the UK having earned £7000 since April 6th 2007 (start of tax year), and complete form P85, I will get all my tax I have paid back except £200?
I rang the inland revenue and they seemed to agree with this although they wouldn't commit to anything.
Any accountants or people who have gone through this able to advise me?
Thanks
Buzzy
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Yes it does. I can't remember how much I had earned when we left but I got a nice little cheque for almost a grand back from them It actually came through pretty quickly too, which was a surprise. From memory, the form you need is R82. Do a search on the IR's web site for it.
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
I left my job in October, having worked half the tax year, and I got back pretty nearly half of what I had paid (from memory, seems like aeons ago!)
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
I wonder if I can ask for some help.
Our departure date for Melbourne is being influenced slightly by the tax situation in the UK.
My understanding is that you get just over £5000 tax free to earn in a year, then the next £2000 or so is taxed at 10%.
So by my calculations if I only earned £7000 in one tax year I would be taxed a total of £200.
Does this mean that if I leave the UK having earned £7000 since April 6th 2007 (start of tax year), and complete form P85, I will get all my tax I have paid back except £200?
Our departure date for Melbourne is being influenced slightly by the tax situation in the UK.
My understanding is that you get just over £5000 tax free to earn in a year, then the next £2000 or so is taxed at 10%.
So by my calculations if I only earned £7000 in one tax year I would be taxed a total of £200.
Does this mean that if I leave the UK having earned £7000 since April 6th 2007 (start of tax year), and complete form P85, I will get all my tax I have paid back except £200?
Gina
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Does anyone know how it would work if we migrate mid march?
I wasn't expecting anything but wouldn't like to miss out.
I wasn't expecting anything but wouldn't like to miss out.
#6
Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Still worth checking though.
Tiggs
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
If you're really looking to get tax back, then leaving mid-way thru a tax year will maximise this!
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Hi
Not sure if anyone has the answer but here goes
My Husband took early retirement last year and is now on a pension from his company.
If we end up getting our CPV would it be better to have the pension paid (before being taxed in UK) into an Australian bank once we are there and letting it be taxed in Australia or would it be better to have it taxed in the UK as it is now and just the take home pay (so to speak) be paid into and Oz bank.
Caz
Not sure if anyone has the answer but here goes
My Husband took early retirement last year and is now on a pension from his company.
If we end up getting our CPV would it be better to have the pension paid (before being taxed in UK) into an Australian bank once we are there and letting it be taxed in Australia or would it be better to have it taxed in the UK as it is now and just the take home pay (so to speak) be paid into and Oz bank.
Caz
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Hi
Not sure if anyone has the answer but here goes
My Husband took early retirement last year and is now on a pension from his company.
If we end up getting our CPV would it be better to have the pension paid (before being taxed in UK) into an Australian bank once we are there and letting it be taxed in Australia or would it be better to have it taxed in the UK as it is now and just the take home pay (so to speak) be paid into and Oz bank.
Caz
Not sure if anyone has the answer but here goes
My Husband took early retirement last year and is now on a pension from his company.
If we end up getting our CPV would it be better to have the pension paid (before being taxed in UK) into an Australian bank once we are there and letting it be taxed in Australia or would it be better to have it taxed in the UK as it is now and just the take home pay (so to speak) be paid into and Oz bank.
Caz
Once you get to Australia on your CP visa as Permanent Residents you will undoubtedly be liable for Australian tax but no longer liable for UK tax - there is probably not too much element of choice in this.
Although the Australian tax charges are slightly less favourable than the UK ones there is good news on the horizon as I believe that all income generated from superannuation/pensions will become free of tax from 1 July this year.
I am no expert, however, and would suggest that you still check out the Inland Revenue site for the procedure required to inform them of your intention to migrate and the ATO site for details re the non payment of tax from this July.
Regards
Jim
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Thanks Jim
Will look into the Inland Revenue and ATO
So it looks like by the time we get out there if we had our pension that we are being taxed on in the Uk paid straight into an Oz bank (before tax) we would not be liable for tax in Oz after July 07
Caz
Will look into the Inland Revenue and ATO
So it looks like by the time we get out there if we had our pension that we are being taxed on in the Uk paid straight into an Oz bank (before tax) we would not be liable for tax in Oz after July 07
Caz
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Have you any reference for that?
#12
Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
I wonder if I can ask for some help.
Our departure date for Melbourne is being influenced slightly by the tax situation in the UK.
My understanding is that you get just over £5000 tax free to earn in a year, then the next £2000 or so is taxed at 10%.
So by my calculations if I only earned £7000 in one tax year I would be taxed a total of £200.
Does this mean that if I leave the UK having earned £7000 since April 6th 2007 (start of tax year), and complete form P85, I will get all my tax I have paid back except £200?
I rang the inland revenue and they seemed to agree with this although they wouldn't commit to anything.
Any accountants or people who have gone through this able to advise me?
Thanks
Buzzy
Our departure date for Melbourne is being influenced slightly by the tax situation in the UK.
My understanding is that you get just over £5000 tax free to earn in a year, then the next £2000 or so is taxed at 10%.
So by my calculations if I only earned £7000 in one tax year I would be taxed a total of £200.
Does this mean that if I leave the UK having earned £7000 since April 6th 2007 (start of tax year), and complete form P85, I will get all my tax I have paid back except £200?
I rang the inland revenue and they seemed to agree with this although they wouldn't commit to anything.
Any accountants or people who have gone through this able to advise me?
Thanks
Buzzy
Hi Buzzy,
I think you have it right. I left in July (the end) and I got a tidy little sum back from the IR. I was doing contract teaching, and being paid weekly, so my weekly tax was overpaid a lot, as it assumes that I would have been earning that each week for the whole year. I think my refund cheque was just over 900 pounds.
Shame I have had to use it to pay off my student loan though
S
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
Thanks very much everyone for the info.
Much appreciated.
Buzzy
Much appreciated.
Buzzy
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Re: Getting tax back when you have only worked part of a UK tax year.
If I left in Feb and filled in form P85 would I still need to fill in self assesment forms (I do every year due to being a contractor and owning some rental properties)