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Old Dec 8th 2005, 11:15 am
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we are going to Brisbane sunshine coast jan 2006 and wanted to know how difficult it is to get permission to build on an empty plot of land?? we will be looking at somewhere semi-rural with a few acres that is not built on at the moment.it might not have electricity or running water supplied .we are hoping to be self sufficient ie solar powered but with generator for power.all we need to know is can we buy any plot of land and just build to a set of plans without to much agro ??????? any replies welcome cooperman
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we are going to Brisbane sunshine coast jan 2006 and wanted to know how difficult it is to get permission to build on an empty plot of land?? we will be looking at somewhere semi-rural with a few acres that is not built on at the moment.it might not have electricity or running water supplied .we are hoping to be self sufficient ie solar powered but with generator for power.all we need to know is can we buy any plot of land and just build to a set of plans without to much agro ??????? any replies welcome cooperman
When land gets subdivided, then as part of the process the council decides which bit of the land you can build on. I.e. there is a predetermined building envelope. So even though you might buy 5 acres, there will only be a small part of that you're allowed to build on and depending on imposed conditions, all buildings (pool, septic tank & disposal area) may have to go onto there, you can't spread them out. The sunshine coast councils will probably be less restrictive than Brisbane City.

It is very common to buy a block of land and build on it so you shouldn't have too much problem as long as you stick to the rules. Remember that most builders will just build the house so you have to handle drainage, landscaping, drivewys etc. yourself.

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we are going to Brisbane sunshine coast jan 2006 and wanted to know how difficult it is to get permission to build on an empty plot of land?? we will be looking at somewhere semi-rural with a few acres that is not built on at the moment.it might not have electricity or running water supplied .we are hoping to be self sufficient ie solar powered but with generator for power.all we need to know is can we buy any plot of land and just build to a set of plans without to much agro ??????? any replies welcome cooperman


We bought a house before we had a permenant visa and had to ask permission to buy. It the same to build but more difficult as you need the value of the home before you start. If you sell there are restriction on who you sell it to.
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we are going to Brisbane sunshine coast jan 2006 and wanted to know how difficult it is to get permission to build on an empty plot of land?? we will be looking at somewhere semi-rural with a few acres that is not built on at the moment.it might not have electricity or running water supplied .we are hoping to be self sufficient ie solar powered but with generator for power.all we need to know is can we buy any plot of land and just build to a set of plans without to much agro ??????? any replies welcome cooperman
Cooperman,
it sounds like a good idea

What sort of house are you planning to build?

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we would like a 5-6 bedroom house,single storey don'y mind brick or timber,swimming pool etc on a large plot of land for the kids to play and perhaps run a small business from home.we want to find out also if you can buy houses in kit form ie timber construction like firms sell in the uk,sound like a good idea because we can design the layout etc,any replies welcome,cooperman



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Cooperman,
it sounds like a good idea

What sort of house are you planning to build?

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we would like a 5-6 bedroom house,single storey don'y mind brick or timber,swimming pool etc on a large plot of land for the kids to play and perhaps run a small business from home.we want to find out also if you can buy houses in kit form ie timber construction like firms sell in the uk,sound like a good idea because we can design the layout etc,any replies welcome,cooperman
Kit homes can be bought in standard designs a tiny % of the housing market less than 1%, because they still have to be put up by a registered builder . Cant see how any savngs would be acheived by having a one off kit designed would be an expensive exercise.

Running your own business from home, if its computer based and not going to disturb neighbours you would get away with it, even so part of your home is then taxable on sale. If it generates noise/ traffic, would be subject to all sorts of approvals and regulations.

You can go owner builder, usually qualified aussie tradesmen with years of knowing the laws and regs, very short course which gives an owner builders permit, for many trades you still need to use registered and licenced tradesmen, consider it carefully do you know the aussie regs and laws? and at the end of it if its owner built it has to be declared, you are up against majority of houses built by registered builders and the protection that gives, in other words you will have a house thats very hard to sell for 7 years.
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why do i have to wait 7 years to sell if i build my own house? also if i built it it we would stay there for a long time anyway,cooperman


UOTE=jad n rich]Kit homes can be bought in standard designs a tiny % of the housing market less than 1%, because they still have to be put up by a registered builder . Cant see how any savngs would be acheived by having a one off kit designed would be an expensive exercise.

Running your own business from home, if its computer based and not going to disturb neighbours you would get away with it, even so part of your home is then taxable on sale. If it generates noise/ traffic, would be subject to all sorts of approvals and regulations.

You can go owner builder, usually qualified aussie tradesmen with years of knowing the laws and regs, very short course which gives an owner builders permit, for many trades you still need to use registered and licenced tradesmen, consider it carefully do you know the aussie regs and laws? and at the end of it if its owner built it has to be declared, you are up against majority of houses built by registered builders and the protection that gives, in other words you will have a house thats very hard to sell for 7 years.[/QUOTE]
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why do i have to wait 7 years to sell if i build my own house? also if i built it it we would stay there for a long time anyway,cooperman
All builders give a minimum of 6.5 years guarantee. It gets sold with the house. If you build yourself there is no guarantee to be sold with the house.
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All builders give a minimum of 6.5 years guarantee. It gets sold with the house. If you build yourself there is no guarantee to be sold with the house.

so what if you don't get a guarantee,if you buy an older house in england you don't get one so what difference should that make ???
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so what if you don't get a guarantee,if you buy an older house in england you don't get one so what difference should that make ???
Cooperman,
I think it sounds like a good idea, but you may have to do some research into what liscences are needed / trades people you have to use.
I think the building industry is quite well regulated in Oz

There was a company in Oz who did pine houses (small and big!) that were kit build or builder erected / finished. they looked nice! (I think they were tropical storm proof something that is needed in some parts)
Do a search on here, it was about 1 year ago.

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so what if you don't get a guarantee,if you buy an older house in england you don't get one so what difference should that make ???

Erm but you are talking in australia.

Aussies like new houses with a warranty, 8 years old is considered just that, dated, old and not under warranty, its a big factor in a sale. Remember older houses here some only 20 years old are often bought and bulldozed on prime land close to cities and beaches, there is a real shortage of that type of land.

Anyway point was if you owner build it has to be declared to the agent and at the sale and in the contract, people will be fully aware they have not bought from a registered builder where they have full legal comeback and warranty.

Very different country to england when it comes to houses, and very regulated when it comes to building.
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Has Heidi given this the Ok, She will need to be near a good gym and shops. LOL.

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Erm but you are talking in australia.

Very different country to england when it comes to houses, and very regulated when it comes to building.
But in a very bizarre way. Its not OK to not have a splashback for your kitchen sink but its fine if your house can be flooded out underneath (highset) because drainage is considered "landscaping" and therefore not under the remit of the builder!

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But in a very bizarre way. Its not OK to not have a splashback for your kitchen sink but its fine if your house can be flooded out underneath (highset) because drainage is considered "landscaping" and therefore not under the remit of the builder!

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Builders not responsible for the drainage of the entire block of land, imagine, say it was 2 acres but is responsible for drainage required to comply with the engineering, keeping water away from footings on sloping land is often refered to in the engineering and approval. Drainage 20 metres away in the back yard is not, the owner is responsilbe for that type of drainage.

During construcion water and soil run off is builders responsiblity with fines if not controlled and considered to be getting into drains etc.

Downpipes should have temporary plastic drainage attached, silt fence round construction site.

It just goes on and on, and laws change weekly, like splashbacks, regs regarding gas ranges in kitchens now require certain splashbacks considered fireproof, you cant even have stainless steel unless it has fire proof board behind.
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