geology degree in WA now?
#31
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thanks for that VS! I had chat with my hubby today about this thread and the bull shit advice people dish out who are not even working in that line of work. I was wondering when you would see this thread.
My hubby said to tell the OP its a brilliant career and lots of different opportunities, he is currently working in Contaminated land as a consultant and also can do geotech work, people should really get there facts right before giving duff advice. My hubby said there are quiet times and busy times but with geo you should have a job for life as a consultant.
Hi Laura
Thanks for that. Exactly. There are good times and bad - but it is rare that you cant find any work. The down turns normally mean you cant change jobs or maybe doing a line that your not so keen on. I wouldnt want to do iron ore, but if the gold price fell and i lost my job i would pick up work in it.
The funny thing was, just after my last post the boss called me into the office to ask if i knew any geos - and yes of ANY age as we are struggling to find and need at least 2. In fact we want a older more experienced geo as well, but havent got the budget that they are demanding as most of the guys aged 50+ are asking for $200k.
What i think the other poster doesnt appreciate is that the older guys are often essential as in order to publish a resource statement under JORK it has to be signed off by a competent person who has considerable recent experience in that commodity and mineralisation style.
Thanks for that. Exactly. There are good times and bad - but it is rare that you cant find any work. The down turns normally mean you cant change jobs or maybe doing a line that your not so keen on. I wouldnt want to do iron ore, but if the gold price fell and i lost my job i would pick up work in it.
The funny thing was, just after my last post the boss called me into the office to ask if i knew any geos - and yes of ANY age as we are struggling to find and need at least 2. In fact we want a older more experienced geo as well, but havent got the budget that they are demanding as most of the guys aged 50+ are asking for $200k.
What i think the other poster doesnt appreciate is that the older guys are often essential as in order to publish a resource statement under JORK it has to be signed off by a competent person who has considerable recent experience in that commodity and mineralisation style.
#32
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Hi Laura
Thanks for that. Exactly. There are good times and bad - but it is rare that you cant find any work. The down turns normally mean you cant change jobs or maybe doing a line that your not so keen on. I wouldnt want to do iron ore, but if the gold price fell and i lost my job i would pick up work in it.
The funny thing was, just after my last post the boss called me into the office to ask if i knew any geos - and yes of ANY age as we are struggling to find and need at least 2. In fact we want a older more experienced geo as well, but havent got the budget that they are demanding as most of the guys aged 50+ are asking for $200k.
What i think the other poster doesnt appreciate is that the older guys are often essential as in order to publish a resource statement under JORK it has to be signed off by a competent person who has considerable recent experience in that commodity and mineralisation style.
Thanks for that. Exactly. There are good times and bad - but it is rare that you cant find any work. The down turns normally mean you cant change jobs or maybe doing a line that your not so keen on. I wouldnt want to do iron ore, but if the gold price fell and i lost my job i would pick up work in it.
The funny thing was, just after my last post the boss called me into the office to ask if i knew any geos - and yes of ANY age as we are struggling to find and need at least 2. In fact we want a older more experienced geo as well, but havent got the budget that they are demanding as most of the guys aged 50+ are asking for $200k.
What i think the other poster doesnt appreciate is that the older guys are often essential as in order to publish a resource statement under JORK it has to be signed off by a competent person who has considerable recent experience in that commodity and mineralisation style.
VS - oh how funny is that? DH has been racking his brains thinking of all the people he went to uni with for his boss, yep they are crying out for staff and doesn't matter what age either, I just wish I had done that degree, could have had a nice little job working for my hubby right now
Laven, good on ya, there are lots of females in the geo business too, I was amazed at the amount of chicks in a geo, and they all seem to do alright too, I think its a great choice of career and my hubby does actually love his work, which is some thing I have never experienced
#33
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Certainly dont be put off because you are a girl. There are loads of girls in the industry. Also, dont just think of the obvious careers. You would be surprised at the roles out there for geologists. I have a friend who works for tsunami warning, another in volcanology research, another who works with industrial minerals, one for NASA and even one who works for the Nuclear Weapons Authority in the UK. Lots work in contaminated land and brownfield development. Even in things like oil there are loads of differing roles from working on survey ships, work on oil rigs to sitting in an office interprating down hole logs. Here on a mine we have about 10 completly differing roles for geo's
#34
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Certainly dont be put off because you are a girl. There are loads of girls in the industry. Also, dont just think of the obvious careers. You would be surprised at the roles out there for geologists. I have a friend who works for tsunami warning, another in volcanology research, another who works with industrial minerals, one for NASA and even one who works for the Nuclear Weapons Authority in the UK. Lots work in contaminated land and brownfield development. Even in things like oil there are loads of differing roles from working on survey ships, work on oil rigs to sitting in an office interprating down hole logs. Here on a mine we have about 10 completly differing roles for geo's
One more question - do you people think Australian degree will be as good as American or British one to prospective international employers (in case things will go a bit downhill in WA) ?
#35
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most of the people in DH company have aussie degrees, lots with uk and USA degrees too but think thats more because they cant get anyone from Aus to fill the posts so they recruit from overseas.
if you need any other info my hubby will be more than happy to answer any of your questions, he also read this thread and said that (as you mentioned) doing further study is always great career move and will always open more doors - eg engineering hydrology etc...
I am also sure that Very Stormy will be more than willing to help too, they are both in very different fields so you will get a lot of good info from them.
good luck with your studies
if you need any other info my hubby will be more than happy to answer any of your questions, he also read this thread and said that (as you mentioned) doing further study is always great career move and will always open more doors - eg engineering hydrology etc...
I am also sure that Very Stormy will be more than willing to help too, they are both in very different fields so you will get a lot of good info from them.
good luck with your studies
#36
Re: geology degree in WA now?
most of the people in DH company have aussie degrees, lots with uk and USA degrees too but think thats more because they cant get anyone from Aus to fill the posts so they recruit from overseas.
if you need any other info my hubby will be more than happy to answer any of your questions, he also read this thread and said that (as you mentioned) doing further study is always great career move and will always open more doors - eg engineering hydrology etc...
I am also sure that Very Stormy will be more than willing to help too, they are both in very different fields so you will get a lot of good info from them.
good luck with your studies
if you need any other info my hubby will be more than happy to answer any of your questions, he also read this thread and said that (as you mentioned) doing further study is always great career move and will always open more doors - eg engineering hydrology etc...
I am also sure that Very Stormy will be more than willing to help too, they are both in very different fields so you will get a lot of good info from them.
good luck with your studies
#37
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The nationality of the degree doesn't matter if you are qualified. I used to work for Schlumberger and we we literally searched the world for suitable graduates. We had Chinese, Russian, Brazilian, Italian, Malaysian, Egyptian, Dutch, German, Irish, male and female in almost equal numbers. I was limited by being female at first - no women allowed on the boats in the 1970s, but that completely changed not long afterwards. Nowadays working as a seismologist on a boat is an office job.
I took early retirement at 50 because I could afford to, not because I had to. I took on lots of different roles within the industry - data processing, software design, technical support, graduate recruitment and training - in fact anything except non-technical management. You just can't know what will come up in the future, or what your likes and dislikes are likely to be.
I took early retirement at 50 because I could afford to, not because I had to. I took on lots of different roles within the industry - data processing, software design, technical support, graduate recruitment and training - in fact anything except non-technical management. You just can't know what will come up in the future, or what your likes and dislikes are likely to be.
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Re: geology degree in WA now?
So its looking like Ozzie has picked itself up again.. might have to polish my cv a bit more.
I'm over in NZ as an Environmental Consultant.. and it was quiet for a bit.. although enough work about not to get worried.. just take a breather.
Looks like its going to get bit more busy over here in the new year.. but i might see over the ditch.. change as good as a rest so they say.. and i have been thnking about if for a bit..
So enviro work.. water based.. hydrogeology/EIA etc.. any insiight?
good encouraging post..! keep it up
I'm over in NZ as an Environmental Consultant.. and it was quiet for a bit.. although enough work about not to get worried.. just take a breather.
Looks like its going to get bit more busy over here in the new year.. but i might see over the ditch.. change as good as a rest so they say.. and i have been thnking about if for a bit..
So enviro work.. water based.. hydrogeology/EIA etc.. any insiight?
good encouraging post..! keep it up
#39
Re: geology degree in WA now?
So its looking like Ozzie has picked itself up again.. might have to polish my cv a bit more.
I'm over in NZ as an Environmental Consultant.. and it was quiet for a bit.. although enough work about not to get worried.. just take a breather.
Looks like its going to get bit more busy over here in the new year.. but i might see over the ditch.. change as good as a rest so they say.. and i have been thnking about if for a bit..
So enviro work.. water based.. hydrogeology/EIA etc.. any insiight?
good encouraging post..! keep it up
I'm over in NZ as an Environmental Consultant.. and it was quiet for a bit.. although enough work about not to get worried.. just take a breather.
Looks like its going to get bit more busy over here in the new year.. but i might see over the ditch.. change as good as a rest so they say.. and i have been thnking about if for a bit..
So enviro work.. water based.. hydrogeology/EIA etc.. any insiight?
good encouraging post..! keep it up
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Re: geology degree in WA now?
always considering new opportunities!!
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oh and lauralollipop ..
it looks as if we are from the same region of the world, back in blighty, except i'm a bit futher north.. with a football team that specialises in replacing their manager every weekend!
it looks as if we are from the same region of the world, back in blighty, except i'm a bit futher north.. with a football team that specialises in replacing their manager every weekend!
#42
Re: geology degree in WA now?
So its looking like Ozzie has picked itself up again.. might have to polish my cv a bit more.
I'm over in NZ as an Environmental Consultant.. and it was quiet for a bit.. although enough work about not to get worried.. just take a breather.
Looks like its going to get bit more busy over here in the new year.. but i might see over the ditch.. change as good as a rest so they say.. and i have been thnking about if for a bit..
So enviro work.. water based.. hydrogeology/EIA etc.. any insiight?
good encouraging post..! keep it up
I'm over in NZ as an Environmental Consultant.. and it was quiet for a bit.. although enough work about not to get worried.. just take a breather.
Looks like its going to get bit more busy over here in the new year.. but i might see over the ditch.. change as good as a rest so they say.. and i have been thnking about if for a bit..
So enviro work.. water based.. hydrogeology/EIA etc.. any insiight?
good encouraging post..! keep it up
Things are insane over here, heaps of jobs going in environmental consulting just check on Seek - not just in WA but all over Aus. We mostly do site investigation, soil and groundwater remediation, absestos, hydrogeology and acid sulphate soils work on sites in Perth, regional areas and mine sites out in the sticks.
For the benefit of Laven, I did a geology degree in the UK and went on to work for a couple of years as an engineering geologist for a consulting firm doing site investigations mainly focusing on the design of building foundations with a bit of contaminated land remediation thrown in for good measure!
When we moved to Aus 6 years ago, i left the engineering behind and moved fully into contaminated land/enviro consulting which still incorporates a lot of geological first principles - In my opinion, geologists make the best enviro consultants as they have the fundamental understanding of soil conditions and how contaminants move through soils/rock - but any earth science degree will leave you suitably qualified to work in enviro consulting.
Apart from boring the sh*t out of everyone with my life story, the point of my post is to re-affirm that a geology degree can open up many career doors, and there certainly isn't any chance of environmental work drying up any time soon, and it obviously isn't anywhere near as sensitive to commodity prices as exploration (which is something i've always fancied trying, but i've probably left it too late now as i would have to start at the bottom...)
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yup.. we Geordies are everywhere..!
Mr lauralollipop...
NZ seems to be the same re environmental work.. in the nearly 9 yrs i have been over here.. there hasnt been a real down turn.. unless you are heavily involved in housing.
And i went to uni with an enviro scientist degree and then specialised in environmental geochemistry.. but since i have been here i have turned into a hydrogeologist.. so its funny how things come about!
Mr lauralollipop...
NZ seems to be the same re environmental work.. in the nearly 9 yrs i have been over here.. there hasnt been a real down turn.. unless you are heavily involved in housing.
And i went to uni with an enviro scientist degree and then specialised in environmental geochemistry.. but since i have been here i have turned into a hydrogeologist.. so its funny how things come about!
#45
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The nationality of the degree certainly doesnt matter. On site here we have a mix of nationalities - Oz, Kiwi, Brits and one guy from Belgium and one Canadian. What is more important is that the uni you chose has a good reputation.
The roles on a mine site for geologists include:
Open pit production - fast paced
Underground Production - fast paced and needs good 3D visualisation
Exploration - in pit, regional and underground - more hard science than other roles
Geotechincal underground - If you like structural geology
Geotech pit - If you like structural geology
GIS specialists - Making maps and sections
Resource geologists - Measuring the metal in the ground by maths and stats
Hydrogeologists - Finding and managing water
Enviros - Preventing damage to the environment and monitoring compliance
Database geologist - maintaing complex records
Many of these roles can then be divided up again into different specialisms such as i am Exploration but a Project Geologist. The interesting thing as well is that many people who study geology dont ever work in it. A lot of employers for other graduate training programs such as for buisness like geology grads because of the way in which we are taught to have to think outside the box and challenge ideas.
Of the people i went to Uni with, less than half went to work as geologists. Two joined the military as officers, one went into the police graduate program, two into teaching, a few into academia and several into general graduate training courses.
The roles on a mine site for geologists include:
Open pit production - fast paced
Underground Production - fast paced and needs good 3D visualisation
Exploration - in pit, regional and underground - more hard science than other roles
Geotechincal underground - If you like structural geology
Geotech pit - If you like structural geology
GIS specialists - Making maps and sections
Resource geologists - Measuring the metal in the ground by maths and stats
Hydrogeologists - Finding and managing water
Enviros - Preventing damage to the environment and monitoring compliance
Database geologist - maintaing complex records
Many of these roles can then be divided up again into different specialisms such as i am Exploration but a Project Geologist. The interesting thing as well is that many people who study geology dont ever work in it. A lot of employers for other graduate training programs such as for buisness like geology grads because of the way in which we are taught to have to think outside the box and challenge ideas.
Of the people i went to Uni with, less than half went to work as geologists. Two joined the military as officers, one went into the police graduate program, two into teaching, a few into academia and several into general graduate training courses.