GCSE's and UK Education
I'm just wondering whether the Australian education is as mad as ours in the UK?
We have just taken 12 kids through a 2 WEEK course called 'Wider Key Skills' where students learn how to develop a number of skills in a variety of areas such as orienteering, climbing and leadership and a touch on first aid. Apart from writing down what they have learned, in some cases very little, there is no exam or assignment to complete. They receive 2 GCSE's for this!! Out of the 12 students only 8 successfully managed to build and float a model raft made out of table tennis balls and other small floating objects. They all passed because thay all learned from their mistakes!! 8 of my other students have completed a BTEC course and will receive 4 GCSE's for it - they will probably not pass any other GCSE's because they struggle badly with learning, remembering what they might have learned and simply writing down information. I wonder whether the Australian system is as demanding and consistent as ours? |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by sportsendurance
(Post 8422241)
I'm just wondering whether the Australian education is as mad as ours in the UK?
We have just taken 12 kids through a 2 WEEK course called 'Wider Key Skills' where students learn how to develop a number of skills in a variety of areas such as orienteering, climbing and leadership and a touch on first aid. my kids learn all that sort of thing in Oz through their outdoor lifestyle. |
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Then send them to the UK for two weeks and they will pick up 2 GCSE's!
Honestly the whole system is a joke - don't be taken in by league tables, GCSE grades etc etc The sad thing is my BTEC kids have learned very little other than how to copy from the internet and answering simple questions such as 'Describe the sports provision in you area' 2 weeks down the line and they won't be able to answer it again unless you explain what 'provision' means!! |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by sportsendurance
(Post 8422297)
Then send them to the UK for two weeks and they will pick up 2 GCSE's!
Originally Posted by sportsendurance
(Post 8422297)
Honestly the whole system is a joke - don't be taken in by league tables, GCSE grades etc etc
The sad thing is my BTEC kids have learned very little other than how to copy from the internet and answering simple questions such as 'Describe the sports provision in you area' 2 weeks down the line and they won't be able to answer it again unless you explain what 'provision' means!! |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by sportsendurance
(Post 8422241)
I'm just wondering whether the Australian education is as mad as ours in the UK?
We have just taken 12 kids through a 2 WEEK course called 'Wider Key Skills' where students learn how to develop a number of skills in a variety of areas such as orienteering, climbing and leadership and a touch on first aid. Apart from writing down what they have learned, in some cases very little, there is no exam or assignment to complete. They receive 2 GCSE's for this!! Out of the 12 students only 8 successfully managed to build and float a model raft made out of table tennis balls and other small floating objects. They all passed because thay all learned from their mistakes!! 8 of my other students have completed a BTEC course and will receive 4 GCSE's for it - they will probably not pass any other GCSE's because they struggle badly with learning, remembering what they might have learned and simply writing down information. I wonder whether the Australian system is as demanding and consistent as ours? |
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My 14 year old was asked at 12 about her options for GCSEs & BTECs...12??? :eek:
Of course, she opted for dropping the subjects she found difficulty in & we were conned (I feel) by schools who wanted to boost their stats by being able to show lots of "successes". So she dropped Languages & the Humanities & chose BTEC Childcare, & something called COPE (Cert of Personal Effectiveness) which are allegedly worth 2 GCSEs each. She's now Year 10 & thoroughly bored with the BTEC course & can see for herself it is taking her nowhere. She feels she has wasted her time with them at school & is looking forward to "going back a year" when we get to Oz so that she can try & pick up on her academic subjects again. Fortunately my younger daughter has learned from this & has chosen the Languages & Humanities, but looking at the range of cop-out subjects on offer in schools now, I do wonder how these kids are going to find meaningful employment in the future...we have a college up the road from us that encourages 16 year olds to go to them for courses in such cr*p as African Drumming, for god's sake!!! |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by sportsendurance
(Post 8422241)
I'm just wondering whether the Australian education is as mad as ours in the UK?
We have just taken 12 kids through a 2 WEEK course called 'Wider Key Skills' where students learn how to develop a number of skills in a variety of areas such as orienteering, climbing and leadership and a touch on first aid. Apart from writing down what they have learned, in some cases very little, there is no exam or assignment to complete. They receive 2 GCSE's for this!! Out of the 12 students only 8 successfully managed to build and float a model raft made out of table tennis balls and other small floating objects. They all passed because thay all learned from their mistakes!! 8 of my other students have completed a BTEC course and will receive 4 GCSE's for it - they will probably not pass any other GCSE's because they struggle badly with learning, remembering what they might have learned and simply writing down information. I wonder whether the Australian system is as demanding and consistent as ours? Back to school for you :sneaky: |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by No 15
(Post 8423367)
Please please please, it's GCSEs. There's NO apostrophe (teacher!)
Back to school for you :sneaky: |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by sportsendurance
(Post 8422241)
I'm just wondering whether the Australian education is as mad as ours in the UK?
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Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by sportsendurance
(Post 8422241)
I'm just wondering whether the Australian education is as mad as ours in the UK?
We have just taken 12 kids through a 2 WEEK course called 'Wider Key Skills' where students learn how to develop a number of skills in a variety of areas such as orienteering, climbing and leadership and a touch on first aid. Apart from writing down what they have learned, in some cases very little, there is no exam or assignment to complete. They receive 2 GCSE's for this!! Out of the 12 students only 8 successfully managed to build and float a model raft made out of table tennis balls and other small floating objects. They all passed because thay all learned from their mistakes!! 8 of my other students have completed a BTEC course and will receive 4 GCSE's for it - they will probably not pass any other GCSE's because they struggle badly with learning, remembering what they might have learned and simply writing down information. I wonder whether the Australian system is as demanding and consistent as ours? And the govt wonder why schools choose iGCSEs and the IB instead...... |
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Originally Posted by JenniGee
(Post 8423248)
My 14 year old was asked at 12 about her options for GCSEs & BTECs...12??? :eek:
Of course, she opted for dropping the subjects she found difficulty in & we were conned (I feel) by schools who wanted to boost their stats by being able to show lots of "successes". So she dropped Languages & the Humanities & chose BTEC Childcare, & something called COPE (Cert of Personal Effectiveness) which are allegedly worth 2 GCSEs each. She's now Year 10 & thoroughly bored with the BTEC course & can see for herself it is taking her nowhere. She feels she has wasted her time with them at school & is looking forward to "going back a year" when we get to Oz so that she can try & pick up on her academic subjects again. Fortunately my younger daughter has learned from this & has chosen the Languages & Humanities, but looking at the range of cop-out subjects on offer in schools now, I do wonder how these kids are going to find meaningful employment in the future...we have a college up the road from us that encourages 16 year olds to go to them for courses in such cr*p as African Drumming, for god's sake!!! |
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Yep..my eldest is doing triple science too - she's very far from being the typical nerdy type, but thank God she's doing it otherwise she'd be bored out of her skull.
I wonder how both my girls will do when we move over...I'm thinking of trying for some scholarships for them both because from reading here on BE, they might both be quite far ahead of the kids in Oz & I would like them to make the most of any advantage they may have. |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by JenniGee
(Post 8426260)
I wonder how both my girls will do when we move over...I'm thinking of trying for some scholarships for them both because from reading here on BE, they might both be quite far ahead of the kids in Oz & I would like them to make the most of any advantage they may have.
Most private school scholarships are for Year 7 but I think your children are much older than that? A few private schools offer scholarships for Years 11 and 12 but please don't underestimate the competition for these - or any scholarship. |
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Sounds about the same. You can get yr 12 credits here for being a competitive sports person or growing potatoes. I think the underwater macrame courses have been discontinued (that used to be a local joke because of the lack of rigor of some of the year 12 accepted courses!)
And Nicky is spot on about the Asian students as well - just check out any selective HS in NSW especially! |
Re: GCSE's and UK Education
Originally Posted by JenniGee
(Post 8423248)
COPE (Cert of Personal Effectiveness) which are allegedly worth 2 GCSEs each.
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