Food Colouring
Mar 11th 2004, 7:36 pm
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In Australia here are many food additives that are banned elsewhere in the developed world. This is because additives and colouring in food is the responsibility of each State and they do not co-operate with each other.
The States in Australia usually underfund any department that does any good as they prefer to pay large sums to useless departments. For example I once visited a company in Melbourne that was producing office files. This company had won the Victorian prize for export.
The company was freezing cold with workers (mainly first generation migrants), sitting around in two jumpers, a bobble hat etc. Almost every time I asked to see someone I was told "He is off sick".
After leaving the company I telephoned the department responsible for OH&S factory inspections and asked them why they did not make the management put in heating. They replied that probably their Inspectors had been to the company in summer and so had not noticed the lack of heating and that due to their limitted resources they only would visit a factory once every three years.
I also visited a company who advertised that they did cadmium barrel plating on their business cards situated near to some houses. I asked them "You don't really do cadmium barrel plating do you, I don't see any tanks for the waste". They said "No the council stopped us from doing it 6 months ago as they did not like what we were tipping into the drains".
Waste from the drains may get into the drinking water and cadmium is a highly toxic chemical the use of which is very carefully controlled in the developed world and special tanks and disposal methods are used.
The States in Australia usually underfund any department that does any good as they prefer to pay large sums to useless departments. For example I once visited a company in Melbourne that was producing office files. This company had won the Victorian prize for export.
The company was freezing cold with workers (mainly first generation migrants), sitting around in two jumpers, a bobble hat etc. Almost every time I asked to see someone I was told "He is off sick".
After leaving the company I telephoned the department responsible for OH&S factory inspections and asked them why they did not make the management put in heating. They replied that probably their Inspectors had been to the company in summer and so had not noticed the lack of heating and that due to their limitted resources they only would visit a factory once every three years.
I also visited a company who advertised that they did cadmium barrel plating on their business cards situated near to some houses. I asked them "You don't really do cadmium barrel plating do you, I don't see any tanks for the waste". They said "No the council stopped us from doing it 6 months ago as they did not like what we were tipping into the drains".
Waste from the drains may get into the drinking water and cadmium is a highly toxic chemical the use of which is very carefully controlled in the developed world and special tanks and disposal methods are used.
Mar 11th 2004, 7:39 pm
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Goodpubmisser - tell us where it was so we dont move there:scared:
Mar 11th 2004, 8:25 pm
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Originally posted by Goodpubmisser
In Australia here are many food additives that are banned elsewhere in the developed world. This is because additives and colouring in food is the responsibility of each State and they do not co-operate with each other.
The States in Australia usually underfund any department that does any good as they prefer to pay large sums to useless departments. For example I once visited a company in Melbourne that was producing office files. This company had won the Victorian prize for export.
The company was freezing cold with workers (mainly first generation migrants), sitting around in two jumpers, a bobble hat etc. Almost every time I asked to see someone I was told "He is off sick".
After leaving the company I telephoned the department responsible for OH&S factory inspections and asked them why they did not make the management put in heating. They replied that probably their Inspectors had been to the company in summer and so had not noticed the lack of heating and that due to their limitted resources they only would visit a factory once every three years.
I also visited a company who advertised that they did cadmium barrel plating on their business cards situated near to some houses. I asked them "You don't really do cadmium barrel plating do you, I don't see any tanks for the waste". They said "No the council stopped us from doing it 6 months ago as they did not like what we were tipping into the drains".
Waste from the drains may get into the drinking water and cadmium is a highly toxic chemical the use of which is very carefully controlled in the developed world and special tanks and disposal methods are used.
In Australia here are many food additives that are banned elsewhere in the developed world. This is because additives and colouring in food is the responsibility of each State and they do not co-operate with each other.
The States in Australia usually underfund any department that does any good as they prefer to pay large sums to useless departments. For example I once visited a company in Melbourne that was producing office files. This company had won the Victorian prize for export.
The company was freezing cold with workers (mainly first generation migrants), sitting around in two jumpers, a bobble hat etc. Almost every time I asked to see someone I was told "He is off sick".
After leaving the company I telephoned the department responsible for OH&S factory inspections and asked them why they did not make the management put in heating. They replied that probably their Inspectors had been to the company in summer and so had not noticed the lack of heating and that due to their limitted resources they only would visit a factory once every three years.
I also visited a company who advertised that they did cadmium barrel plating on their business cards situated near to some houses. I asked them "You don't really do cadmium barrel plating do you, I don't see any tanks for the waste". They said "No the council stopped us from doing it 6 months ago as they did not like what we were tipping into the drains".
Waste from the drains may get into the drinking water and cadmium is a highly toxic chemical the use of which is very carefully controlled in the developed world and special tanks and disposal methods are used.
Mar 11th 2004, 9:03 pm
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Re: Food Colouring
Originally posted by debsy
I know I keep going on about this but is there legislation in Australia about the use of colouring in food? I have never seen such brightly coloured food and drink. The fanta was bright orange and I noticed they used lots of blue colouring! These brightly coloured foods are very attractive to children but when my youngest has something with the blue colour in it she is so fast she would probably win a gold medal at the Olympics!!
I know I keep going on about this but is there legislation in Australia about the use of colouring in food? I have never seen such brightly coloured food and drink. The fanta was bright orange and I noticed they used lots of blue colouring! These brightly coloured foods are very attractive to children but when my youngest has something with the blue colour in it she is so fast she would probably win a gold medal at the Olympics!!
We couldnt get over the bright orange colour of the fanta at the fast food take aways in nz. We got a McDonald enroute at L.A. airport and even the kids commented on the colour.
Mar 11th 2004, 9:18 pm
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Originally posted by MeganEkno
Yes I am sure this happens all the time
Yes I am sure this happens all the time
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Mar 11th 2004, 9:20 pm
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Re: Food Colouring
Originally posted by sky
We couldnt get over the bright orange colour of the fanta at the fast food take aways in nz. We got a McDonald enroute at L.A. airport and even the kids commented on the colour.
We couldnt get over the bright orange colour of the fanta at the fast food take aways in nz. We got a McDonald enroute at L.A. airport and even the kids commented on the colour.
Mar 11th 2004, 9:23 pm
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Re: Food Colouring
Originally posted by debsy
Sky was it almost Fluorescent?
Sky was it almost Fluorescent?
Mar 11th 2004, 9:25 pm
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Originally posted by debsy
OMG:scared: I used to watch that when I was a kid:scared: OOh lets start a nostalgic thread about old UK Tv programmes that you can get ib oz
OMG:scared: I used to watch that when I was a kid:scared: OOh lets start a nostalgic thread about old UK Tv programmes that you can get ib oz
Mar 11th 2004, 9:27 pm
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Not good for my 4yr old he is hyperactive already, one sip of the stuff over here an there would be no living with him
Mar 11th 2004, 9:28 pm
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Originally posted by Larissa
ooohhh... Dotty can be Margo, Debs can be Barbara and Tom can be Badgersmount.... hmmm who shall we have for Gerry?
ooohhh... Dotty can be Margo, Debs can be Barbara and Tom can be Badgersmount.... hmmm who shall we have for Gerry?
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Mar 11th 2004, 9:38 pm
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Originally posted by dotty
Even Fruit and veg here is allowed to be dyed, apples and oranges have food colour to "enhance" them. By the colours of carrots and corn I think theres something going on in few veg too.
That is the tricky part, a pack of biscuits is going to state food colouring even if its just by a number, but what about fruit?
We grow a lot of veg here when its not too hot, but I can honestly say the normal colours of veg grown with just aussie sun and rain are nothing like the vivid colours in the shop stuff.
Even Fruit and veg here is allowed to be dyed, apples and oranges have food colour to "enhance" them. By the colours of carrots and corn I think theres something going on in few veg too.
That is the tricky part, a pack of biscuits is going to state food colouring even if its just by a number, but what about fruit?
We grow a lot of veg here when its not too hot, but I can honestly say the normal colours of veg grown with just aussie sun and rain are nothing like the vivid colours in the shop stuff.
Fertilise your veggie patch for healthier, better looking and tasting veggies - water soluble AquaSol or similar is good.
Mar 11th 2004, 9:40 pm
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Originally posted by sky
Not good for my 4yr old he is hyperactive already, one sip of the stuff over here an there would be no living with him
Not good for my 4yr old he is hyperactive already, one sip of the stuff over here an there would be no living with him
Mar 11th 2004, 9:57 pm
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Will watch out for them and avoid like the plague :scared:
Mar 11th 2004, 10:16 pm
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Originally posted by Megalania
Far as I know apples and oranges are only waxed to reduce moisture loss and reduce mold spoilage rates. An un-waxed apple loses its crispness after just a few days.
Far as I know apples and oranges are only waxed to reduce moisture loss and reduce mold spoilage rates. An un-waxed apple loses its crispness after just a few days.
Does anyone remember last summer in Oz there was an 'orange' war? Aussie orange growers were losing their market share to US imports. Safeway, Coles, etc got slated for buying US oranges in preference to Aussie ones. Their reasoning was that the US looked better and were more appealing to the consumer. The US oranges were large, round and very orange in colour. In comparison, the Aussie ones were smaller and their skins were tinged with green. The green tinging turned out to be a natural sunscreen. They took cameras out on the streets and surveyed the public - sure enough, the public picked the US oranges on looks alone. When it came down to the taste test, however, the Aussie oranges won - the US oranges just looked nice and that was why people bought them - no matter that they were treated very heavily with chemicals. I'm not suprised growers have resorted to adding food colourings if sales are based on aesthetics more than taste.
My sister is a fruit grower in Sunraysia region - she tells me I wouldn't eat her produce if I "saw the s**t that was sprayed on it". The growth hormone they use doubles the size of the grapes....because that's what the Asian marketeers want.
Mar 11th 2004, 10:56 pm
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Originally posted by HiddenPaw
Post-harvest they may be waxed but fruits are treated throughout the growing season with all kinds of chemicals and hormones - pesticides, growth hormones, colourants, etc etc. You only have to compare an organic capsicum with a non-organic one to see how much growth hormone is added to our fruit and veg these days. Many fruits are gas-treated to prolong shelf life, as well as waxed.
Does anyone remember last summer in Oz there was an 'orange' war? Aussie orange growers were losing their market share to US imports. Safeway, Coles, etc got slated for buying US oranges in preference to Aussie ones. Their reasoning was that the US looked better and were more appealing to the consumer. The US oranges were large, round and very orange in colour. In comparison, the Aussie ones were smaller and their skins were tinged with green. The green tinging turned out to be a natural sunscreen. They took cameras out on the streets and surveyed the public - sure enough, the public picked the US oranges on looks alone. When it came down to the taste test, however, the Aussie oranges won - the US oranges just looked nice and that was why people bought them - no matter that they were treated very heavily with chemicals. I'm not suprised growers have resorted to adding food colourings if sales are based on aesthetics more than taste.
My sister is a fruit grower in Sunraysia region - she tells me I wouldn't eat her produce if I "saw the s**t that was sprayed on it". The growth hormone they use doubles the size of the grapes....because that's what the Asian marketeers want.
Post-harvest they may be waxed but fruits are treated throughout the growing season with all kinds of chemicals and hormones - pesticides, growth hormones, colourants, etc etc. You only have to compare an organic capsicum with a non-organic one to see how much growth hormone is added to our fruit and veg these days. Many fruits are gas-treated to prolong shelf life, as well as waxed.
Does anyone remember last summer in Oz there was an 'orange' war? Aussie orange growers were losing their market share to US imports. Safeway, Coles, etc got slated for buying US oranges in preference to Aussie ones. Their reasoning was that the US looked better and were more appealing to the consumer. The US oranges were large, round and very orange in colour. In comparison, the Aussie ones were smaller and their skins were tinged with green. The green tinging turned out to be a natural sunscreen. They took cameras out on the streets and surveyed the public - sure enough, the public picked the US oranges on looks alone. When it came down to the taste test, however, the Aussie oranges won - the US oranges just looked nice and that was why people bought them - no matter that they were treated very heavily with chemicals. I'm not suprised growers have resorted to adding food colourings if sales are based on aesthetics more than taste.
My sister is a fruit grower in Sunraysia region - she tells me I wouldn't eat her produce if I "saw the s**t that was sprayed on it". The growth hormone they use doubles the size of the grapes....because that's what the Asian marketeers want.
Crop geneticist wins Minister's Prize
Experimented with gibberellin - plant growth hormone - as a kid.
