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IvanM Jun 10th 2011 8:11 pm

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Did he not have flood insurance? Is fairness making people homeless? Frankly I feel sorry for those who lost their homes, not those with a dodgy investment choice.


Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9425315)
A friend of mine owns an investment house in Ipswich. The water went up over the window sills and made a complete mess. The tenants got their flood allowance of about $4000 and buggered off leaving him to clear up all their old rotten furniture and mattresses. As the landlord he isn't entitled to claim any assistance. The old tenants are now in a new rental with new furniture all paid for by you and me. That doesn't seem fair to me.


NedKelly Jun 10th 2011 8:57 pm

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9425446)
Frankly I feel sorry for those who lost their homes, not those with a dodgy investment choice.

Why doesn't that surprise me?

IvanM Jun 10th 2011 9:45 pm

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I am surprised at you suggesting wealth distribution to private investment. It is like you have gone pinko.

Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9425512)
Why doesn't that surprise me?


NedKelly Jun 10th 2011 10:27 pm

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9425564)
I am surprised at you suggesting wealth distribution to private investment. It is like you have gone pinko.

If it wasn't for the generosity of landlords then the scumbag tenants wouldn't have anywhere to live.

fish.01 Jun 11th 2011 12:20 am

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9425216)
Last event of a similiar nature was 1974. I believe a condition Nick Xenophon wanted for the levy is that QLD gets insurance. QLD Libs wanted to use more of the flood catchment to hold water as standard. What monkeys.

QLD slacked off on the insurance and should be paying a lot more as a result.

Yes but they built a nice big dam after that. The same amount of water as 1974 wouldn't have flooded Brisbane. The last time this much water fell into the catchment was 1893.

I can't find any evidence that insurance would make much difference. If so, NSW and other states would not be busy claiming off the same govt scheme as they have done over recent years to fix their damaged infrastructure...I don't think insurance covers as much as that original beat-up made out?

fish.01 Jun 11th 2011 12:23 am

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9425446)
Did he not have flood insurance? Is fairness making people homeless? Frankly I feel sorry for those who lost their homes, not those with a dodgy investment choice.

FYI, can't get flood insurance on homes in the flood zones.

IvanM Jun 11th 2011 10:39 am

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Landlords are subsidized by taxpayers as it is through negative gearing. Scumbag socialist scroungers the lot Em.


Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9425616)
If it wasn't for the generosity of landlords then the scumbag tenants wouldn't have anywhere to live.


renth Jun 11th 2011 10:44 am

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Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9425734)
If so, NSW and other states would not be busy claiming off the same govt scheme as they have done over recent years to fix their damaged infrastructure...I don't think insurance covers as much as that original beat-up made out?

They didn't want to lose their no claims bonus. Why bother claiming when you can rely on the largesse of the tax payer to bail you out?

IvanM Jun 11th 2011 10:48 am

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It tells you something about the advisability of buying an investment there and what the planners were up to.

Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9425738)
FYI, can't get flood insurance on homes in the flood zones.


NedKelly Jun 11th 2011 10:52 am

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9426492)
Landlords are subsidized by taxpayers as it is through negative gearing. Scumbag socialist scroungers the lot Em.

Negative gearing is not a subsidy it is a deductible expense. It is typical socialist thinking to view deductibles as a government subsidy when in fact all it does is reduce the amount of tax you pay. If tenants don't like paying rent they should go and buy instead.

IvanM Jun 11th 2011 11:13 am

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Socialist wealth redistribution does not care if the form is a subsidy, deduction or tax rebate. Negative gearing is wealth redistribution. Very pinko.


Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9426511)
Negative gearing is not a subsidy it is a deductible expense. It is typical socialist thinking to view deductibles as a government subsidy when in fact all it does is reduce the amount of tax you pay. If tenants don't like paying rent they should go and buy instead.


NedKelly Jun 11th 2011 11:32 am

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9426537)
Socialist wealth redistribution does not care if the form is a subsidy, deduction or tax rebate. Negative gearing is wealth redistribution. Very pinko.

Socialist wealth redistribution does not even care if the cash cow it sucks from withers and dies leaving everyone poorer. Negative gearing takes this further by providing cheap housing for the poor at the expense of the rich who even after the "tax rebate" still have to subsidise the tenant more and make a loss year after year. Otherwise it would be cheaper to buy.

IvanM Jun 11th 2011 12:51 pm

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Sounds pinko to me.


Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9426560)
Socialist wealth redistribution does not even care if the cash cow it sucks from withers and dies leaving everyone poorer. Negative gearing takes this further by providing cheap housing for the poor at the expense of the rich who even after the "tax rebate" still have to subsidise the tenant more and make a loss year after year. Otherwise it would be cheaper to buy.


fish.01 Jun 11th 2011 9:43 pm

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Originally Posted by renth (Post 9426503)
They didn't want to lose their no claims bonus. Why bother claiming when you can rely on the largesse of the tax payer to bail you out?

Ok now you're just making stuff up ;)

fish.01 Jun 11th 2011 9:48 pm

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9426509)
It tells you something about the advisability of buying an investment there and what the planners were up to.

It does. Unfortunately that percentage (3%?) of houses that flood exist and will always be owned by someone.


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