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Retirednow Jun 15th 2021 10:34 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 13017698)
:thumbup: hasn't that become apparent. I notice Qld resorts are very cheap for the upcoming NSW school holidays ....... tempted but will keep it this side of the border. Too risky.

I think you misunderstood my post, but that’s probably my fault.

brits1 Jun 15th 2021 10:40 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 13017442)
All good points. But then there's those dreary overcast skiies and chilly moist air for 9 months and there is no where in the UK that escapes that unfortunately. And for most in the UK they don't really get to experience must else, a bit like the local shop so that becomes the norm. If you are really into culture then the local shop isn't really going to give much there either. Life is life.

What we do then is nip across to the med countries and enjoy their lovely weather, these last few years we have enjoyed really nice summers so we have stayed in the UK and holidayed here

brits1 Jun 15th 2021 10:41 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Moses2013 (Post 13017386)
Wasn't that the point made by brits1. You would have to drive 3,900 km from Perth to Sydney and there wouldn't be a huge difference. In the same time you could drive from Manchester to Athens.
That the weather is shit for 9 months of the year is another myth and that's assuming all people have the same view and live in one place. People change, so does the weather and when you look at the next generation, very few might consider skin cancer, droughts, flooding, extreme heat and severe storms to be better weather. If you are living in Europe, Australia has no relevance (vice versa) and the places are just too far apart to compare.

Well said and I found it a very open and honest opinion.

brits1 Jun 15th 2021 10:48 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 13017406)
That's the thing. Other than a beach in Cornwall or a mountain in Scotland the natural scenery can be very much that same in the UK with a few exceptions. North Queensland, to the Gold Coast Hinterland to the beaches, harbours, vineyards, the Snowy Moutains, the Riverina, to the Great Ocean Road then on to the variety of Tasmania the natural beauty has much more variation in Australia. Sure there are extremes of weather too but the same constant bleak overcast skies are not a thing Australia gets to experience for 9 months of the year.

That's no wholly correct, we have rolling dales, the flat lands, Moors, flat sandy beaches, coves and dramatic cliffs and all offer different forna and flora and views certainly do differ between them for various reasons and all arrive away

brits1 Jun 15th 2021 10:48 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 13017406)
That's the thing. Other than a beach in Cornwall or a mountain in Scotland the natural scenery can be very much that same in the UK with a few exceptions. North Queensland, to the Gold Coast Hinterland to the beaches, harbours, vineyards, the Snowy Moutains, the Riverina, to the Great Ocean Road then on to the variety of Tasmania the natural beauty has much more variation in Australia. Sure there are extremes of weather too but the same constant bleak overcast skies are not a thing Australia gets to experience for 9 months of the year.

That's no wholly correct, we have rolling dales, the flat lands, Moors, flat sandy beaches, coves and dramatic cliffs and all offer different forna and flora and views certainly do differ between them for various reasons and all arrive away

brits1 Jun 15th 2021 10:53 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 13017004)
But really, how much "difference" is there from one end of the UK to the other, especially when for 9 months of the year when the weather is shit. Sure you might have the coast of Cornwall and the mountains of Scotland which are vastly different from each other but Australia, US, France, etc all offer that. There might be a few more older historical castles and villages if you are into history, but for me history gets old pretty quickly - mind the pun. And that history doesn't really change too much. Each to their own but terrific visual natural scenery excites me more than a few old things.

Really different and I have done that a few times, I have also literally done the same in Australia and while I enjoy visiting the different states it was for me certainly all very similar the most different city/state that does stand out for me was Canberra it has a different architecture to the other states and the location away from the coast also made it feel different one of my favourite places to visit actually in Australia.

Moses2013 Jun 15th 2021 12:30 pm

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 13017758)
Well said and I found it a very open and honest opinion.

Thanks;). You know yourself and those who talk down the UK will continue to do so. If you say something wrong about Australia they jump on it but if something that isn't true about the UK is said they don't question it (Best example 9 months:o). Even people in Luxembourg know their country is smaller than Australia, so I don't understand the fuss he's making. Is the UK perfect for everyone? No. Is Australia perfect for everyone? No.

Beoz Jun 16th 2021 1:00 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 13017759)
That's no wholly correct, we have rolling dales, the flat lands, Moors, flat sandy beaches, coves and dramatic cliffs and all offer different forna and flora and views certainly do differ between them for various reasons and all arrive away

Personally I am into something a little more dramatic and from one extreme to the other. I find the rolling dale's, flat lands and moors a little boring. One thing I do like is the south eastern pocket of the UK. There is quite a degree of natural variation there. Farms, forests, coast line, and old villages nestled in amongst this, and to help the south east probably does get the best of the UK weather.

Mikeypm Jul 6th 2021 10:44 pm

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Gozit (Post 13012999)
This is the problem with Canada. Too expensive to travel around the country for more of the same culture vs travelling abroad for new experiences.

True we use to travel quite alot when in the UK and after 8 Years in Canada the travel has dried up to nothing

Gozit Jul 8th 2021 6:24 pm

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 13026576)
True we use to travel quite alot when in the UK and after 8 Years in Canada the travel has dried up to nothing

Its too hard with only 2 weeks of vacation. I'd use that 2 weeks to go back home to visit then have no leave left for anything else. I've been in Malta for 6 weeks and really contemplating moving down. If I can find the money, the quality of life would be so much better.

BadgeIsBack Jul 9th 2021 12:14 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Moses2013 (Post 13017409)
Of course and it's always personal opinions. But If we're honest, the majority of people are all stuck in the same place anyway and hardly go much further than their local shop (UK or Australia).
People have to understand that a country in Europe is just an area and there's nothing stopping you driving to a different country, so again it's all relative. When we drive down to our place in Spain I can also see vineyards, snowy mountains and go from one ocean to another. The only difference is that someone living in Hobart or Melbourne will drive to the Gold Coast and I drive to the Costa Brava. Life is life.

I see we are still agonising.....It's true that not everyone has the energy to get out and about - I lived in central Europe and didn't always get off the couch every Sunday. I see stunning scenery from the UK but also the most deary average streets from British TV shows. If you have a Grade 1 listed detached 4bed with study home, it might be a different story..

What is good about Melbourne living is that we get that rolling rural hills of reminiscent of the UK and even parts of France. As you head further afield you get the Peninsular beaches, (which I have come to love), Yarra Valley Alpine and snowfields. And then there is the opportunity to do stuff in town.

After years of heading out - I do note that lots of lower lying bush in VIC is nothing but euculypt brush which you can barely see through or navigate through. You can do a walk and find the track inpenetrable with bush fire regrowth. I don't bother any more with 'trips' like that. You can walk all day and see nothing. There is not much of an opportunity to walk amongst rolling hills near Melbourne. It's one of the reasons I prefer the Alpine and above the treeline too. NZ has amazing mountains and I want to get out to hunt Tahr or out on the glacier.

BadgeIsBack Jul 9th 2021 5:08 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 13014412)
One thing comes to mind in UK. Cheap and quick accessibility to other countries. Likewise within UK. National Coaches very cheap and extensive network through The British Isles. (if don't want to drive) I guess more people, means greater possibility of connecting with others with similar interests. No matter how obscure. Brit's to my mind, have more hobbies as well.

I completely disagree! I've noticed Australians don't stop ever: (including around here, endlessing doing things with their land spending thousands often doing things themselves), or out and about, doing stuff, skiing, camping, fishing, 4wding, travelling, eating out, in clubs and societies, music et cetera. If anything, I always found average Brits didn't do much, and were rather sheltered, so always found people who did do things. I notice this when I hear them on British TV programmes - they are often incredibly lacking in direction and bizarrely unworldly (it's even rather cute) for a country that was dominant for so long and taught the world how to administrate and get out of the house..... At least suburban Australians have an excuse for being sheltered if they have never been overseas (but this is rare for well educated Australians).

Retirednow Jul 9th 2021 11:18 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 13027481)
I completely disagree! I've noticed Australians don't stop ever: (including around here, endlessing doing things with their land spending thousands often doing things themselves), or out and about, doing stuff, skiing, camping, fishing, 4wding, travelling, eating out, in clubs and societies, music et cetera. If anything, I always found average Brits didn't do much, and were rather sheltered, so always found people who did do things. I notice this when I hear them on British TV programmes - they are often incredibly lacking in direction and bizarrely unworldly (it's even rather cute) for a country that was dominant for so long and taught the world how to administrate and get out of the house..... At least suburban Australians have an excuse for being sheltered if they have never been overseas (but this is rare for well educated Australians).

Poms are generally lazy and clueless. They live in their little ‘Blighty bubble’ and that’s it. Very sad little creatures

Pollyana Jul 9th 2021 11:55 am

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Retirednow (Post 13027547)
Poms are generally lazy and clueless. They live in their little ‘Blighty bubble’ and that’s it. Very sad little creatures

You're a real bundle of joy, aren't you.

Retirednow Jul 9th 2021 4:35 pm

Re: Finally come back after 14 years
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 13027563)
You're a real bundle of joy, aren't you.

Much appreciated…


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