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Bix Nov 9th 2006 1:17 am

Expat ? Maybe not.
 
Most expatriates are familiar with the basic residence rules. In their simplest form these dictate that if you leave the UK to live or work abroad and keep your visits to the UK at less than 91 days per year you will be classed by HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) as non-resident.

Many expatriates have relied on these rules to save tax. Recent developments in HMRC practice mean that residence rules may now be interpreted differently. Expatriates who fall into the following categories may need to take further advice:
  • Have a property available for use in the UK
  • Visit the UK for duties of employment
  • Have immediate family resident in the UK
  • Make many frequent visits to the UK

Bix Nov 9th 2006 1:23 am

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 
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OzTennis Nov 9th 2006 1:33 am

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 
So the UK government is making it much easier to get into the country and much harder to leave the country (officially)? :D

Could be 'interesting' taxation ramifications for some expats as you say.

OzTennis :)

Bix Nov 9th 2006 1:39 am

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 

Originally Posted by OzTennis
So the UK government is making it much easier to get into the country and much harder to leave the country (officially)? :D

Could be 'interesting' taxation ramifications for some expats as you say.

OzTennis :)


Yep, that's how I see it.

Wonder when they start collecting the passports :D

scallyuk Nov 9th 2006 7:57 am

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 

Originally Posted by Bix
Yep, that's how I see it.

Wonder when they start collecting the passports :D

Saw this in the No2Id Newsletter.
Fingerprint the expats! FCO plans phase two biometric passport - The Register 31/10/06
Passports issued by the Foreign & Commonwealth Office are already "biometric", but only in the somewhat minimalist sense required by ICAO - the addition of fingerprints, however, would pull overseas UK residents into the National Identity Register net, closing off a prized but little-known escape route.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ary_biometric/

renounce citizenship anyone?

JAJ Nov 9th 2006 9:44 am

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 

Originally Posted by Bix
Most expatriates are familiar with the basic residence rules. In their simplest form these dictate that if you leave the UK to live or work abroad and keep your visits to the UK at less than 91 days per year you will be classed by HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) as non-resident.

Many expatriates have relied on these rules to save tax. Recent developments in HMRC practice mean that residence rules may now be interpreted differently. Expatriates who fall into the following categories may need to take further advice:
  • Have a property available for use in the UK
  • Visit the UK for duties of employment
  • Have immediate family resident in the UK
  • Make many frequent visits to the UK


Nothing particularly "recent" about this. And other countries have similar rules. Note also that if you pay UK tax it can often be offset against Australian tax or vice versa, see the double tax treaty.

DunRoaminTheUK Nov 9th 2006 2:04 pm

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 

Originally Posted by Bix
Most expatriates are familiar with the basic residence rules. In their simplest form these dictate that if you leave the UK to live or work abroad and keep your visits to the UK at less than 91 days per year you will be classed by HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) as non-resident.

Many expatriates have relied on these rules to save tax. Recent developments in HMRC practice mean that residence rules may now be interpreted differently. Expatriates who fall into the following categories may need to take further advice:
  • Have a property available for use in the UK
  • Visit the UK for duties of employment
  • Have immediate family resident in the UK
  • Make many frequent visits to the UK

Well, I think that a lot of British expats living abroad (such as Australia) will be able to demonstrate a "clear and distinct break" very easily. If you are living, working and being taxed in another country (as well as possessing things like local driving licences, being a home owner and showing financial foundations in that country) it shouldn't be too much of an issue for people truly "living" in the respective country?

wargod Nov 9th 2006 2:31 pm

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 

Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK
Well, I think that a lot of British expats living abroad (such as Australia) will be able to demonstrate a "clear and distinct break" very easily. If you are living, working and being taxed in another country (as well as possessing things like local driving licences, being a home owner and showing financial foundations in that country) it shouldn't be too much of an issue for people truly "living" in the respective country?

Well there goes our family beach hut in Bognor Regis then :D:D

moneypenny20 Nov 9th 2006 2:37 pm

Re: Expat ? Maybe not.
 

Originally Posted by Bix
Most expatriates are familiar with the basic residence rules. In their simplest form these dictate that if you leave the UK to live or work abroad and keep your visits to the UK at less than 91 days per year you will be classed by HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) as non-resident.

Many expatriates have relied on these rules to save tax. Recent developments in HMRC practice mean that residence rules may now be interpreted differently. Expatriates who fall into the following categories may need to take further advice:
  • Have a property available for use in the UK
  • Visit the UK for duties of employment
  • Have immediate family resident in the UK
  • Make many frequent visits to the UK


Looks like I need my family to move abroad somewhere no where near me :D


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