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Old Jul 17th 2003, 2:34 am
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Don't buy a Holden Commodore,

alternator light went out on the Holden just before I got to the B&B tonight.

Got back & dumped my bag in the room & set off back to the car to check the battery terminals were tight.

I was only a couple of minutes, got back to the car & wondered why the whole of Burwood road had come to a standstill. I thoght to myself "bloody hell, I'm sure it wasn't as foggy as this a minute ago".

That's because it wasn't fog. I looked at the car & smoke was billowing out of the bonnet. I called 000, evacuated the B&B & went for a fire extinguisher. Emptied a couple of CO2's into it before the Fire Brigade arrived, by which time the engine compartment had melted. Shame really, had just filled up with 75 litres of unleaded. Shite Aussie cars, thats all I can say. It doesn't look that bad from the picture, but the engine compartment is a beaut.

Made me laugh this morning, the receptionist had been out in the car to the post just before I had set off last night. This morning she says to me "You need to have your car looked at, the alternator light keeps coming on". Thanks for telling me, I'll bear it in mind.

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Talking with the caps at work. This is quite a common occurence with Holden Commodores.
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Old Jul 17th 2003, 2:40 am
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What a bugger! You need more luck

Pommie B will no doubt agree with your summary of Aussie Cars - hope your replacement is better.

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Don't buy a Holden Commodore,

Talking with the caps at work. This is quite a common occurence with Holden Commodores.
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Welcome to the world of Crapadore , buyer beware.

Commodores have built-in pom whinger detectors, coded for self-destruction. It is a quite sophisticated nasal-tone recognition algorithm developed from years of experience.

Holden Spokesbloke Bruce had this to say:

"bugger those pommie bastards, come here and start whinging. We'll fix 'em"
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Old Jul 17th 2003, 3:43 am
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Commodores have built-in pom whinger detectors, coded for self-destruction. It is a quite sophisticated nasal-tone recognition algorithm developed from years of experience.

Holden Spokesbloke Bruce had this to say:

"bugger those pommie bastards, come here and start whinging. We'll fix 'em"
Holden built by half wits and driven by them?


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Holden built by half wits and driven by them?


You work at Holden?
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Old Jul 17th 2003, 4:04 am
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You work at Holden?
Nope but done and am working project's for GM and believe me Holden is not way up GMs list when it comes to its best product.
This crew of failed Lada workers have no chance , the Yanks give them outdated engines , which they put in a grandad shell ,.
They are going to produce the GM world engine (2.2litre) which was developed and designed by Lotus , its their only hope.
Most Aussies buy Crapadores because they think of Holden as a Aussie company which it never was , its always been a GM off spring setup by Pommies from Luton in the 1930s (Vauxhall).



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Old Jul 17th 2003, 5:37 am
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Nope but done and am working project's for GM and believe me Holden is not way up GMs list when it comes to its best product.
This crew of failed Lada workers have no chance , the Yanks give them outdated engines , which they put in a grandad shell ,.
They are going to produce the GM world engine (2.2litre) which was developed and designed by Lotus , its their only hope.
Most Aussies buy Crapadores because they think of Holden as a Aussie company which it never was , its always been a GM off spring setup by Pommies from Luton in the 1930s (Vauxhall).


Interesting...

Just finished my companies online staff satisfaction survey...maybe I should not have said that bit about the board the executive and the cucumber...???
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Interesting...

Just finished my companies online staff satisfaction survey...maybe I should not have said that bit about the board the executive and the cucumber...???

Third warning keep your sex life out of this.



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Holden is Vauxhall is Opel is GM & they are all crap. Vauxhall in the UK is a joke, they devalue the most of any of the major manufacturers, they can basically only sell to fleet companies.
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Originally posted by Amazulu
Holden is Vauxhall is Opel is GM & they are all crap. Vauxhall in the UK is a joke, they devalue the most of any of the major manufacturers, they can basically only sell to fleet companies.
You are not far wrong , GM is the biggest car maker in the World but never the best.

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Bad luck Dave, glad your ok though! You are certainly having more excitement this week at least Were you p*ssed when you phoned yesturday, we couldn't understand the message! (perhaps you were just husky from smoke inhilation )
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Nope but done and am working project's for GM and believe me Holden is not way up GMs list when it comes to its best product.
This crew of failed Lada workers have no chance , the Yanks give them outdated engines , which they put in a grandad shell ,.
They are going to produce the GM world engine (2.2litre) which was developed and designed by Lotus , its their only hope.
Most Aussies buy Crapadores because they think of Holden as a Aussie company which it never was , its always been a GM off spring setup by Pommies from Luton in the 1930s (Vauxhall).


i guess thats why the Holden monaro is about to be released in the states in october ,as the rebadged, PONTIAC GTO ,who says you cant sell "coal to Newcastle", and the BUICK 3.8 ltr v6 is still in production in the states, as for the history ,read the facts before you spread crap.........www.indoholden.com/hoh.html ..... MM
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Don't buy a Holden Commodore,

alternator light went out on the Holden just before I got to the B&B tonight.

Got back & dumped my bag in the room & set off back to the car to check the battery terminals were tight.

I was only a couple of minutes, got back to the car & wondered why the whole of Burwood road had come to a standstill. I thoght to myself "bloody hell, I'm sure it wasn't as foggy as this a minute ago".

That's because it wasn't fog. I looked at the car & smoke was billowing out of the bonnet. I called 000, evacuated the B&B & went for a fire extinguisher. Emptied a couple of CO2's into it before the Fire Brigade arrived, by which time the engine compartment had melted. Shame really, had just filled up with 75 litres of unleaded. Shite Aussie cars, thats all I can say. It doesn't look that bad from the picture, but the engine compartment is a beaut.

Made me laugh this morning, the receptionist had been out in the car to the post just before I had set off last night. This morning she says to me "You need to have your car looked at, the alternator light keeps coming on". Thanks for telling me, I'll bear it in mind.

For Sale:

Holden 3.5L V6 Commodore. 159915 Km. 11 Months Rego. 1 previous owner. Full service history. New tires, just been serviced. Never raced or rallied. Slight smoke damage. Bring your own extinguisher.

Talking with the caps at work. This is quite a common occurence with Holden Commodores.
Dave
so what caused the fire ?........... MM
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Old Jul 17th 2003, 11:22 pm
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i guess thats why the Holden monaro is about to be released in the states in october ,as the rebadged, PONTIAC GTO ,who says you cant sell "coal to Newcastle", and the BUICK 3.8 ltr v6 is still in production in the states, as for the history ,read the facts before you spread crap.........www.indoholden.com/hoh.html ..... MM

The Monaro is a dead duck its had 4 revamps in less than 12 months , the engine is yet again a old Yank job made in Canada.
The Yank union have already put a limit on the amount Holden can export to America , if they sell (some hope) production will move to America.
Holden have never sold a car in America with an Holden badge and this is a first atempt to sell any car there and could be the last.

General Motors Holden Limited was formed in March 1931 and Edward was appointed Chairman and A.N. Lawrence and Holden were Joint Managing Directors. The merger was not a happy one with both management and employees, it became clear that changes had to be made so Lawrence was sent elsewhere with most of his technical staff and Holden would give up the Managing Directorship and a new man who could understand the unique Australian situation and that man was Laurence Hartnett.

Hartnett being British not American was more than likely a contributing factor but the fact he was involved with Vauxhall Motors and Vickers in the U.K as well as for motor companies in India and Singapore was the reason. He took his new position at the head of GM-H in March 1934 and at once overhauled the top brass which helped to put the dealers at ease.


The Government of the day wanted an all Australian built car but the Second World War put paid to any plans for this to happen in the near future and in 1940 the 'Department of Munitions' was established and among some of the leading manufacturing talent Hartnett was made in charge of ordnance (cannon, heavy artillery etc.).

The british Rootes Group which includes Hillman, Humber and Singer decided for the first time to start assembling cars in Australia and built an assembly plant in Fisherman's Bend just down the road from GM-H. Hartnett remembered being told of a prototype in America of a Chevrolet code named 195-Y-15 which was close to what Hartnett decided was th the Australian requirement and would reduce the launch date by about two years. In September 1945 a full scale clay model was finished and approved and the USA designers did the final plans to what was essentially a 195-Y-15 prototype. August 1946 saw the first fully functional model of the car and was tested before shipping to Australia for evaluation. In Australia however Hartnett was working on there own design called 'Project 2000' which vaguely resembled a Humber/Hillman/Singer but were forced to accept the American design. Late in 1946 Hartnett was ordered to a position in head office in New York and Harold Bettle took over the reins, the reason, although not confirmed was the closeness of Hartnett with what was seen as a socialist government and the American capitalist giantdid not want to be associated with socialists.



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