eatstatic

No need for ASBOs in Utopia, or is there?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...796614626.html

Vash the Stampede

One measly news story about one single gang of teens? Luxury!

If I had a quid for every story like this that I've seen since coming to the UK... :scared:

swimmingsaintee

Hmm. 1 of the reasons I want to go is that I have 4 kids ( boys). We live in a small village here in Scotland - it's really lovely, pretty middle class etc etc but there's " nothing to do " ( particularly when it's raining / snowing/blowing a gale.) At week ends I see kids ( 13/14) hanging around on the street drinking cans of special etc. Our kids are fine, so far, but already the oldest who is 13 is under pressure from mates to try things. I was brought up in our nearest town which is pretty small by most standards but full of drunken kids at week ends and really a threatening place to be - really sad when you've spent 40 years there.It just seems to me that alcohol plays too big a part in their lives already. Our limited experiences of both Australia and also America have shown that whilst undoubtedly there are exceptions life for a teenager seems to involve more healthy activity and does not revolve around binge drinking the way it seems to here.
Or am I wrong?
All views greatly received

Vash the Stampede

Australia has her fair share of yobs and nutters, but nothing approaching the sheer boldness, savagery and bloody-minded violence of the UK equivalents. :scared:

We do have a drinking culture, but not a binge-drinking culture; as for "more healthy activity", that really varies from state to state and suburb to suburb, but it's generally positive.

Carkedit

bring back national service I say...

Vash the Stampede

To train 'em, or kill 'em off...?

Carkedit

mmmm..thats a hard one...can I pick both??

eatstatic

On one level I agree Vash. The levels of violence, drunkeness and yobbishness do vary from suburb to suburb in Oz, just as the UK.

Your summary of the UK I quote from you...

but nothing approaching the sheer boldness, savagery and bloody-minded violence of the UK equivalents

I beg to differ. I saw many a drunken violent hoon in Sydney, more often than not in charge of a V8 Holden.

Oz is similar to the UK, in that its full of dont give a shit tossers that you wouldnt want to exchange glances with on a late night.

The main difference between me and the dreamers is that I know the same shit happens 12000 miles away, they kid themselves that once heathrow is out of sight so are the prioblems that blight 21st century Western Nations.

Only difference is, once in Oz you will beg the hoons to run you over, its far preferable to the death of a thousand cuts of boredom in the non descript never ending suburbs of the Godzone.

Vash the Stampede

Be my guest!

Hutch

Your arguments, stuck record that you are, are almost as comedic as that web-site in your sig. You're like a little ray of light ...

Carkedit

think I would prefer bored to scared shitless by a bunch of yobs..

Vash the Stampede

And what were they doing at the time? Driving the V8, or stepping out of it to rape/mug/stab some innocent bystander?

There was a case here in the UK recently where some **** stabbed a geezer on a bus in broad daylight, then coolly disembarked at his stop and walked away without a care in the world. Nobody tackled him, and nobody helped the stabbed bloke - who died shortly afterwards.

[quote]Oz is similar to the UK, in that its full of dont give a shit tossers that you wouldnt want to exchange glances with on a late night.

The main difference between me and the dreamers is that I know the same shit happens 12000 miles away, they kid themselves that once heathrow is out of sight so are the prioblems that blight 21st century Western Nations.

Actually, the main difference is that the UK is chock full of nutters, while Australia has them in small, scattered pockets of the community.

So are you still in Australia, or did you go back to the heady delights of the UK and its gorgeous, superbly finished terrace houses...? Because of course, we all know that none of Britain's suburbs could possibly be described as "nondescript - and here's the proof!



Mmmm, I just can't get enough of that!

By contrast, an Australian working class suburb -



Quiet? Yep. Nondescript? Not in the slightest. Boring? Quite possibly - but only in a "we had no muggings, stabbings, rapes or murders last Friday night" sort of way.

Neil S

My parents live in Sheffield, South Yorkshire and I keep an eye on the news there. Apparently two areas (Parson Cross and Ecclesfield) are so bad for yobs they have been turned into curfew and 'dispersal zones'. Not only that there was a pic on the front page of the local rag the other day of a puppy that had been killed, after probably being tortured, and hanging from a tree.

I'd sooner live in Mornington any day!!

jond

[QUOTE=Vash the Stampede]And what were they doing at the time? Driving the V8, or stepping out of it to rape/mug/stab some innocent bystander?

There was a case here in the UK recently where some **** stabbed a geezer on a bus in broad daylight, then coolly disembarked at his stop and walked away without a care in the world. Nobody tackled him, and nobody helped the stabbed bloke - who died shortly afterwards.




Ignore him he is a sad little troll, as I have proved in the past when you confront him with an intelligent response he cannot come up with a reply and disappears for a while. Which is a shame as I quite like a good argument, but it is no fun with someone like him who has an IQ smaller than his shoe size.

Vash the Stampede

Thanks mate, I'll keep that in mind.