England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Dec 8th 2006, 6:25 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by tony_russell
It is because of all this type of ridiculous "PC" rubbish that many people choose to emigrate in the first place.
Dec 8th 2006, 6:33 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by OzTennis
The thought occurs that your son could go a mere 20 miles or so north from Sunderland wearing his shirt and the chat wouldn't be so positive (Makem etc). 
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Can remember when Man'U and Liverpool were first becoming big and the number of Northern kids who would have supported Newcastle or Sunderland who chose to support them just because they had money and won.
At least my kid knows winning isn't everything just an occasional miracle.
Dec 8th 2006, 7:16 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by tony_russell
I am shocked and outraged at some of the pathetic and anal views of some of the posters on this thread. What the hell is wrong with England shirts or tattoos for that matter. It is because of all this type of ridiculous "PC" rubbish that many people choose to emigrate in the first place. I really can't believe the pure snobery i'm reading. 
There's a time and a place for everything. I dont feel the need to try and openly declare that I'm English and walk into a pub wearing an England shirt in one of the most nationaly loyal sporting countries in the world and then moan about getting aggro about it. It's kinda a no brainer and nothing to do with being PC.
Dec 8th 2006, 7:24 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by Centurion
If theres nothing wrong with it, why do people get stick for wearing it here ?
There's a time and a place for everything. I dont feel the need to try and openly declare that I'm English and walk into a pub wearing an England shirt in one of the most nationaly loyal sporting countries in the world and then moan about getting aggro about it. It's kinda a no brainer and nothing to do with being PC.
There's a time and a place for everything. I dont feel the need to try and openly declare that I'm English and walk into a pub wearing an England shirt in one of the most nationaly loyal sporting countries in the world and then moan about getting aggro about it. It's kinda a no brainer and nothing to do with being PC.
Dec 8th 2006, 7:25 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by Centurion
If theres nothing wrong with it, why do people get stick for wearing it here ?
There's a time and a place for everything. I dont feel the need to try and openly declare that I'm English and walk into a pub wearing an England shirt in one of the most nationaly loyal sporting countries in the world and then moan about getting aggro about it. It's kinda a no brainer and nothing to do with being PC.
There's a time and a place for everything. I dont feel the need to try and openly declare that I'm English and walk into a pub wearing an England shirt in one of the most nationaly loyal sporting countries in the world and then moan about getting aggro about it. It's kinda a no brainer and nothing to do with being PC.
oh karma coming your way for that!
Dec 8th 2006, 7:27 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
I encouraged both my girls to dress and express themselves in whatever way they wanted to. It is after all an individuals choice to wear what they want to wear and they shouldn't be judged on it.
Whilst at high school my youngest dressed as a "Gegga" sort of very mild gothy/rock. She had to endure no end of abuse from others who didn't dress the same. Eighteen months later she now dresses in trendy stuff. The same lads who gave her abuse are now trying to chat her up. She's still the same girl so why the change in attitude? Because generally speaking, most people judge you on appearance. They put you into a little catergory based on what you are wearing and if you don't belong to their group, they judge you accordingly.
Whilst at high school my youngest dressed as a "Gegga" sort of very mild gothy/rock. She had to endure no end of abuse from others who didn't dress the same. Eighteen months later she now dresses in trendy stuff. The same lads who gave her abuse are now trying to chat her up. She's still the same girl so why the change in attitude? Because generally speaking, most people judge you on appearance. They put you into a little catergory based on what you are wearing and if you don't belong to their group, they judge you accordingly.
Dec 8th 2006, 7:33 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by tony_russell
I am shocked and outraged at some of the pathetic and anal views of some of the posters on this thread. What the hell is wrong with England shirts or tattoos for that matter. It is because of all this type of ridiculous "PC" rubbish that many people choose to emigrate in the first place. I really can't believe the pure snobery i'm reading.
Am I being a snob if I say I dont like tattoos and football shirts??
I also cant stand gold buttoned navy blazers, Jaguar cars and men who wear loafers - all classic attributes of the upper classes... so does that mean I have a reverse snobbery going on about them??
and your post is a little confusing - you say its PC rubbish and then say its snobbery ..... PC would mean nobody would dare infer any kind of snobbery for fear of being "un pc".
and I'm sure you've also thought about someone you've only observed and then made judgement as being a posh toff and probably even spoken about it too so I would'nt get so mad and offended by something so trivial - you'll never last as an expat if you're this touchy!
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Dec 8th 2006, 9:21 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by annqldau
It's amazing how many Expats have stopped us when my son wears his Sunderland shirt to ask do we live here etc. and it's always because of the distinctive top. We have only ever had positive chat as a result.
I've got to agree with that. When we've been out and our children have had their Pomper kits on we've often had somebody chat again nothing negative has ever been said.
I think to be honest that its how you behave is more important than wearing a particular shirt. Behave like a yob and people will treat you like a yob! I've seen lots of bad chavvy behaviour from people who aren't wearing football shirts.
Dec 8th 2006, 10:37 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by matt-and-jenny
I guess you could think to yourself what would your reaction be if you saw a person or a liitle kid walking down an English street with an Australian sports shirt on.
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No one would bat an eyelid and all very double standards
Dec 8th 2006, 11:08 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Whether you like it or not, some soccer tops do have negative connotations - unfortunately, especially IF the person wearing it opens his mouth and confirms what you've come to expect. In this respect I can see where northern bird (and other posters) are coming from. That's not to say its everyone.
I don't wear national tops anymore - just don't fancy it as I don't go to the games anymore. That's living in VIC for you(!) Luckily the rugby fraternity has a fantastic reputation. I'd actually rather wear a top from another country to show my support for the world game.
I don't wear national tops anymore - just don't fancy it as I don't go to the games anymore. That's living in VIC for you(!) Luckily the rugby fraternity has a fantastic reputation. I'd actually rather wear a top from another country to show my support for the world game.
Dec 8th 2006, 11:11 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by rugbymad
The irony is that soccer is a far more skillful and athletically demanding game than rugby (half the positions on the rugby field are for people who frankly couldn't play most other sports because of their bulk or lack of pace).
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have you watched rugby lately!!
Can you name these players please,i think your qite wrong on this point my friend,years ago..yes,but not any more.the game has changed and so have the players.
You were able to tell a players position without looking at his shirt number,not anymore.
Of course there exeptions which I'm sure you'll remind me of but on the whole I think your out of touch........although we can go to the video ref!
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have you watched rugby lately!!
Can you name these players please,i think your qite wrong on this point my friend,years ago..yes,but not any more.the game has changed and so have the players.
You were able to tell a players position without looking at his shirt number,not anymore.
Of course there exeptions which I'm sure you'll remind me of but on the whole I think your out of touch........although we can go to the video ref!
Dec 8th 2006, 11:16 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by Pomster
My thought would be ' oh look an Australian supporter"....can't see what the problem is by wearing something to show your support.
If you lived in London and wore a Man U football shirt, would people tell the wearer to go back to Manchester?
Tolerance for all!
If you lived in London and wore a Man U football shirt, would people tell the wearer to go back to Manchester?
Tolerance for all!
A true Mancunian would wear a sky blue shirt
Dec 8th 2006, 11:23 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by FluffyTheCampfireSlayer
Ah! But what you are effectively saying is that anyone with a tattoo is a small minded yobbo that wears football shirts, spends his life in the pub, hates all other nationalities and likes a fight! NOT SO!!!!
I have tattoos, several in fact....I am not a yob, I have manners, I am respectable, speak politely, open doors for people (not just ladies), respect the law, love my mum - god rest her soul, and work bloody hard to make a good life for me and mine.....so, what's so bad about someone who thinks tattoos are cool? Do tell, I really am intrigued?
I have tattoos, several in fact....I am not a yob, I have manners, I am respectable, speak politely, open doors for people (not just ladies), respect the law, love my mum - god rest her soul, and work bloody hard to make a good life for me and mine.....so, what's so bad about someone who thinks tattoos are cool? Do tell, I really am intrigued?
Dec 8th 2006, 11:26 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by simpy
Thing is you DID insult me personally by your pathetic comments and stereotyping of people with tattoo's and not only me, but you insulted a LOT of people with your comments. If it's your preference to not like tattoo's then keep your opinions to yourself, to air your single minded views on a public forum where you can insult people who you don't even have the pleasure of knowing personally (and with comments like yours i don't think you ever will be fortunate to know them) is rather stupid and if you think that by doing so you won't get comments back is a bit simpleminded, you may as well stand on the town hall steps and announce the same.
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Dec 8th 2006, 11:35 pm
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Re: England shirts in Oz Yes or No ?
Originally Posted by Centurion
If theres nothing wrong with it, why do people get stick for wearing it here ?
There's a time and a place for everything. I dont feel the need to try and openly declare that I'm English and walk into a pub wearing an England shirt in one of the most nationaly loyal sporting countries in the world and then moan about getting aggro about it. It's kinda a no brainer and nothing to do with being PC.
There's a time and a place for everything. I dont feel the need to try and openly declare that I'm English and walk into a pub wearing an England shirt in one of the most nationaly loyal sporting countries in the world and then moan about getting aggro about it. It's kinda a no brainer and nothing to do with being PC.
I have a couple of tattoos that are very subtle, and as a result people like them (when shown). But you know what, I wouldn't have them done if I had my time again and I would not recommend them to anyone.It was an impetuous act.