hoofie2002

Its hard to get quality people in Perth, especially since our clients keep hiring the buggers for even bigger salaries ( not as bad as it sounds since Perth is such a small town)

Having said that, if you want .Net, everyone and their dog does that. Switch to sonething like JEE and throw in JBoss plus SOA etc and the pool of talent gets very small very fast ( good for me !)

Chortlepuss

PM me with details if you like! I do know the problem re: CV inflation - when my workplace went to market for BA's we got some horrendous contenders - including one who'd worked as a shop assistant for three years and thought her interpersonal skills could crack it... I wouldn't mind, but these were put forward by agencies who presumably couldn't work out the minimum required skill set

WestLondonWelshman

Unfortunately mate IT as a professions has been found out. Its had its time in the sun and can't thrive off others ignorance in the way it used to. People are far lot more savvy about computers these days and realise that a lot of the techy guys at work are full of shite...

DeadVim

Damn, I've been sprung

itigo

There does seem to be a huge variation in salary expectations, especially in server engineer/IT Manager roles. One role my husband went for a few months ago was for a huge business in our town. Huge. Offering 65k for the world on a stick - advertised as IT Coordinator. Basically anything to do with computers or that plugs in had to be covered, peripherals, ink cartridges etc. Then manage the servers and the whole budget and project manage. Easily about 3 people's work. Weekend work required at times.

He didn't get that job but has now secured an IT manager role for a smaller but expanding successful company. Much less faffing expected. Clear cut role. Was offered 20k more off the bat. Really pleased he got this one and not the other!!

fish.01

I think it is the "lot more savvy" who think they know anything close to a proper IT professional that they are talking about.

isgraham

Completely agree and this is what I'm seeing in London. Lots of people complaining that they can't get jobs but honestly if you actually know what you are doing the market is strong. I have interviewed my fair share of hopeless candidates they are easy to sift out. Get them talking about past projects and drill down a bit the blaggers soon catch themselves out. I don't hold much store in the technical tests I've seen either they basically test if you know syntax which is about 10% of the job but many companies think they are the be all and end all of technical recruitment. So many poor candidates have managed to get into the industry it doesn't surprise me that there is a generally poor view of it.

I also have to say that in both Sydney and London I have worked with several fantastic developers and made it my business to learn from them.

IvanM

Pre dotccombust and y2k so many monkeys entered the profession in the belief there were huge sums to be made.

The waves of outsourcing and cutbacks have seen lots leave the profession but not too many companies have been investing in developing talent.

The good professionals left are going to be worth a lot more. I am also seeing more companies insource.

Dzzh

Do you know if there is a big difference between Perth and for example, Sydney? I'm currently looking for JEE jobs in Sydney (and also sponsership ) but have not been lucky yet.

Chortlepuss

Here in Brisbane the market is shaky. I turned down a contract renewal at my old employers to take a sic month contract starting next Tuesday. After contracts signed, notice given to employer the agency rang me last Thursday to say the project had been frozen and the contract was cancelled. Talking to a friend he told me that this had happened to him twice recently! Other friends are complaining of being mucked about by agencies. I've been in IT for 25 years, and count myself (and my friends) as having excellent marketable skills. I'm sure I'll get a replacement role soon, but there is some very dodgy behaviour going on, and not helped by the fact that there are heaps of applicants flooding the job market at the moment.

fish.01

Given the newly elected Premier Newman has sacked all the contractors I wonder what will happen to all the ongoing IT projects. Will it cost more in the long run due to less optimal outcomes for IT projects in your opinion ?

hoofie2002

I couldn't say - however your chances of sponsorship in general are extremely low to non-existent I would have thought; everywhere is .NET now {shudder}

PW1

So the situation in Melbourne is not good? Is this the case for all areas of I.T, or are we talking more about management roles?

Regards,
P.

sr71

Well we just can't get good people, and I'm really serious about saying that many have the Dunning-Kruger effect.

At all levels, from technical SME roles, testers, business type roles like OCM specialists, project and programme managers, architects etc. The absolute rubbish that is out there is just depressing.

EVERY CV that I have seen is overinflated, sometimes full of lies etc.

Beoz

Ha ha ... so true ..... I very rarely look at the qualifications. I always go straight for the experience.