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tonyk38 Oct 27th 2005 11:04 pm

Re: To emigrate or not to emigrate? Pros and Cons please!
 

Originally Posted by arkon
:rolleyes: I think you will be very happy out here and fit in just right. I've clearly upset you somehow and for that I appologise, you don't work for British rail do you? :eek:

No I'm a student psychiatric nurse.

I apologise too for losing my temper, which I rarely do on this forum. I hope you understand why I did. :cool:

Signing out...

Centurion Oct 27th 2005 11:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Julie T
Hello Jerry

I've probably given a misleading impression. I'm currently torn between a demanding career and spending more time with my family. Yes Jersey is lovely, low crime and high standard of living - but it's also incredibly expensive and by moving to Oz we could be mortgage free. A good job would hopefully be a choice not a necessity.

I'm sure you're right - moving from Jersey would be a culture shock. But we've both lived and travelled abroad before - it's funny though - the older you get the bigger the decision becomes.

It's early days - I'm just dipping my toes into the water. I've got a lot of research and soul searching to do before we decide what is for us.

Julie :)

I can also say (bringing this thread back to the topic) that I swapped my demanding life for one less demanding and more lifestyle orientated here. Its worked out great and we love it.

Australia is not for everyone (as shown in the above posts) but it is for us and many others here for exactly the reasons you have posted. I guess its all about perceptions and the individuals - we've found customer service to be very good here for example. Whatever your personal feelings - its just different from what you know..almost like a different country ;)

The older you get the harder the decision is I agree - to swap stability for the unknown adventure. Are we glad we have done it ? you bet!

Good luck in your journey no matter what you decide but just remember life's not a rehearsal :)

Julie T Oct 28th 2005 7:18 am

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Originally Posted by arkon

Back to the OP, who clearly one international move hasn't quite worked out and she is considering this country as an alternative and my advice is 'don't do it girl' Go back to the UK it really is much better IMO!

Just to clear this up - we haven't had a bad experience with an international move. My husband tarvelled for years with the Navy and I've worked in the States, Cyprus and studied in Holland - but all were done with the knowledge it was a temporary move and before having a baby. Now it's different, we both have established careers and all the trappings that come with that. A move is a big upheaval.

I like what someone said, life is not a rehearsal and I don't want to be sitting here in a few years wondering "what if?"

Thanks for all your replies - all opinions are appreciated.

Julie

Linda Lushardi Oct 29th 2005 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by arkon
:rolleyes: I think you will be very happy out here and fit in just right. I've clearly upset you somehow and for that I appologise, you don't work for British rail do you? :eek:


Maybe, just maybe, if you took your head out of your arse for a few minutes and looked at the world from the other persons viewpoint instead of just your wants, needs and requirements all the time, people might treat you differently and you life would be much kinder. You come across on here as very self obsessed and i have a feeling it will stick out like a sore thumb in the real world too. This tends to get peoples backs up whether your an Aussie or a Martian! .. but as YOU said this is MY opinion. Hope i didnt offend too much :rolleyes: :D

Grayling Oct 29th 2005 12:43 am

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Originally Posted by Linda Lushardi
Maybe, just maybe, if you took your head out of your arse for a few minutes and looked at the world from the other persons viewpoint instead of just your wants, needs and requirements all the time,

That applies to the majority of people on this forum.

That is why there are so many rows...as soon as someone posts something someone else does not want to hear :rolleyes:

G

Linda Lushardi Oct 29th 2005 12:50 am

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Originally Posted by Grayling
That applies to the majority of people on this forum.

That is why there are so many rows...as soon as someone posts something someone else does not want to hear :rolleyes:

G


There is a big difference between having a differing viewpoint, than being condescending and belittling of other people and acting like some kind of superior being. To state that somehow people who like to live in Aus are somehow inferior from you, ie Torremolinos tourists or British rail workers (whats that all about?) and therefore i am better because i am not like that and dont like Aus merely accentuates HIS personality type... but then i'm doing just what he is doing i guess, but i'm past caring. :rolleyes:

possoms Oct 29th 2005 1:25 am

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Originally Posted by Linda Lushardi
There is a big difference between having a differing viewpoint, than being condescending and belittling of other people and acting like some kind of superior being. To state that somehow people who like to live in Aus are somehow inferior from you, ie Torremolinos tourists or British rail workers (whats that all about?) and therefore i am better because i am not like that and dont like Aus merely accentuates HIS personality type... but then i'm doing just what he is doing i guess, but i'm past caring. :rolleyes:

but didnt you do that with your UG boot comment :confused:

Linda Lushardi Oct 29th 2005 1:28 am

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Originally Posted by possoms
but didnt you do that with your UG boot comment :confused:


LOL :D i guess so.. but that was very much tongue in cheek. I think we need a "tongue in cheek" emoticon, and anyway, i was pointing out the stupidity of wearing fur lined boots in the name of fashion in 20+ degree heat ;)

arkon Oct 29th 2005 1:31 am

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Originally Posted by Linda Lushardi
There is a big difference between having a differing viewpoint, than being condescending and belittling of other people and acting like some kind of superior being. To state that somehow people who like to live in Aus are somehow inferior from you, ie Torremolinos tourists or British rail workers (whats that all about?) and therefore i am better because i am not like that and dont like Aus merely accentuates HIS personality type... but then i'm doing just what he is doing i guess, but i'm past caring. :rolleyes:

Clearly I've been misunderstood.

Torremolinos:- I make no appologies for this, All I was saying is that if you like Torremolinos then you will probably like it here. What was wrong with that?

British rail worker:- Well I think the general work ethic out here is exactly like a BR worker, at least all the ones I had the misfortune to meet. I think a beurocratic jobsworth BR worker would also like it out here. I still can't see what was wrong with saying this.

There is definately 2 camps on here and regardless of what I say or how I say it if its something against Australia then you get jumped on, and if I'm guilty of having slightly higher standards and expectations, and the weather and beaches do nothing for me, whats wrong with that?

possoms Oct 29th 2005 1:35 am

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Originally Posted by Linda Lushardi
LOL :D i guess so.. but that was very much tongue in cheek. I think we need a "tongue in cheek" emoticon, and anyway, i was pointing out the stupidity of wearing fur lined boots in the name of fashion in 20+ degree heat ;)

:D only kidding ya :D though I am a northern lass and we tend to do it the other way round, go out in the middle of Winter dressed in next to nothing no tights or owt :D

possoms Oct 29th 2005 1:40 am

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Originally Posted by arkon
Clearly I've been misunderstood.

Torremolinos:- I make no appologies for this, All I was saying is that if you like Torremolinos then you will probably like it here. What was wrong with that?

British rail worker:- Well I think the general work ethic out here is exactly like a BR worker, at least all the ones I had the misfortune to meet. I think a beurocratic jobsworth BR worker would also like it out here. I still can't see what was wrong with saying this.

There is definately 2 camps on here and regardless of what I say or how I say it if its something against Australia then you get jumped on, and if I'm guilty of having slightly higher standards and expectations, and the weather and beaches do nothing for me, whats wrong with that?

Now Arkon I've always supported you but I cannot understand the Torremolinos comment, I hated Torremolinos when we had the misfortune to visit but I just cannot see the comparison to Australia?? Are you saying its all brits and brit pubs, union jack shorts and full english breakfasts what?? or are you comparing it to the weather ?? be more specific.

Possoms :)

Linda Lushardi Oct 29th 2005 1:41 am

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:D

Originally Posted by arkon
Clearly I've been misunderstood.

Torremolinos:- I make no appologies for this, All I was saying is that if you like Torremolinos then you will probably like it here. What was wrong with that?

British rail worker:- Well I think the general work ethic out here is exactly like a BR worker, at least all the ones I had the misfortune to meet. I think a beurocratic jobsworth BR worker would also like it out here. I still can't see what was wrong with saying this.

There is definately 2 camps on here and regardless of what I say or how I say it if its something against Australia then you get jumped on, and if I'm guilty of having slightly higher standards and expectations, and the weather and beaches do nothing for me, whats wrong with that?

Arkon, i am not jumping on you because you dont like Australia. Personally i couldnt care less whether you do or not and i dont have a problem with you saying so.
I was trying to draw your attention to how you MAKE your points, and link it with your endless trail of "unfriendly" interactions and day to day run ins with the locals. Maybe you are not aware of how your "Style" can be misconstrued. Only a suggestion that you might like to think about.

Possums. I am a southern lass who has always been a hot blooded woman and empathise with going out "undressed". I even used ot sleep with the windows open when it was snowing!!
Thats probably why i find the ug boots horrendous..lol

possoms Oct 29th 2005 1:49 am

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Originally Posted by Linda Lushardi
:D

Possums. I am a southern lass who has always been a hot blooded woman and empathise with going out "undressed". I even used ot sleep with the windows open when it was snowing!!
Thats probably why i find the ug boots horrendous..lol

You dont want me to bring you a pair when we come out then?? :D

arkon Oct 29th 2005 1:50 am

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Originally Posted by possoms
Now Arkon I've always supported you but I cannot understand the Torremolinos comment, I hated Torremolinos when we had the misfortune to visit but I just cannot see the comparison to Australia?? Are you saying its all brits and brit pubs, union jack shorts and full english breakfasts what?? or are you comparing it to the weather ?? be more specific.

Possoms :)

Hot weather, sun, beaches (well sort of). Not much else to do but socialize and drink, and a manyana attitude. Its not just Torremolinos, places like benedorm etc. The reason I brought them up was I normally holiday in Europe, Canada, USA, and never on a beach holiday and not normally to a hot place and if it is a hot place out of season so its not too hot. BUT once I won a holiday to Torremolinos and I just know this is going to sound pompous and if you met me you would know I'm not like that BUT the kind of person that holidays in places like that will definitely like it here IMO. I hate places like all the cheap package sun holidays you get from the UK and I hate it here so I see a parallel. If you’re the kind of person like me that likes skiing holidays in Italy and France. Or visiting places in Europe with a bit of history or even likes state hoping on USA flydrives, or going on UK canal boat holidays then I just can’t imaging you liking it here. Of course some will but I just can’t see it. If this is patronizing then I’m sorry, just stating it as I see it.

Linda Lushardi Oct 29th 2005 1:50 am

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Originally Posted by possoms
You dont want me to bring you a pair when we come out then?? :D


NOOOOOOOOOOOO!! :scared:


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