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Old Jan 21st 2016, 11:50 pm
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My daughter came from a grammar school in the UK, and we looked at selective state schools, but here in Sydney, they were 95% Asian. We sent her private to get a good mix and smaller class sizes that could deal with her as an individual. Ironically she is now studying Japanese at Uni and is in Japan on a scholarship exchange. Private school wouldn't let her take up Japanese, made her do French and Latin, as that is what she had done for a year at grammar.
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No, not in NSW. Only prerequisite is you need to pass the entrance exams. The ordinary high schools have catchments for the non-selective students.

There are a few dual selective/non-selective schools. These are schools which have two streams; the selective stream and the normal stream.

All the Sydney selective schools are very popular with Asian parents who tend to look only at the final year exam results when choosing a school. They support a huge industry of coaching colleges which exist only to get primary school kids into these selective schools.
We have a different situation here, where those state schools that are deemed to be good, end up having very expensive housing around them. The prices go up and up far more so though than similar areas with schools that don't have such a good reputation.
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Old Jan 22nd 2016, 3:03 am
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To the best of my knowledge the only time you will find a dual stream high school is when the Dept. of Edu. decide to create a new selective school. They don't build a new school, they simply choose a school and then the new intake of Yr 7 pupils will be selective. After 6 years the school will be totally selective. However, there are many nonselective Government high schools which are excellent schools.
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Old Jan 22nd 2016, 3:45 am
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We have a different situation here, where those state schools that are deemed to be good, end up having very expensive housing around them. The prices go up and up far more so though than similar areas with schools that don't have such a good reputation.
This happens everywhere

It's a big issue in the UK
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To the best of my knowledge the only time you will find a dual stream high school is when the Dept. of Edu. decide to create a new selective school. They don't build a new school, they simply choose a school and then the new intake of Yr 7 pupils will be selective. After 6 years the school will be totally selective. .
No, it's not like that at all.

There are currently 21 fully selective and agricultural high schools in NSW. In addition, there are another 25 schools that are now classed as 'partially' selective in that they have selective classes as well as community classes for the non-selective kids.

Info comes directly from: Details
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Sorry but that is how the selective schools in the urban areas of the state were started, except for a few like Ruse and maybe Sydney Girls and Boys. If you read the site you noted, you will find that the only dual streams are in rural areas where lack of numbers would not justify separate buildings.
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Sorry but that is how the selective schools in the urban areas of the state were started, except for a few like Ruse and maybe Sydney Girls and Boys. If you read the site you noted, you will find that the only dual streams are in rural areas where lack of numbers would not justify separate buildings.
That may be true about how the older fully selective schools were started but most of the 25 current 'partially selective' schools became 'partially selective' many years ago, and are still 'partially selective'. By your reckoning they should all be fully selective by now - but they're not.

Rose Bay Secondary College is partially selective and it's been partially selective since 2005. Same with Alexandria Park Community School. By your reckoning they should have become fully selective after 6 years i.e. by 2011 - but they're not. They're still the same community schools for the local catchment that they always were. They are also both within 10k of the CBD so not exactly rural.

Chatswood High School has been partially selective since 2002. Their website details how the two streams work: Chatswood High School - (+612) 9419 3611Academic Excellence - The Selective Stream
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