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derf Jan 28th 2012 4:05 pm

drink driving loop hole
 
Honest this is about a friend of a friend...

He is in Qld on a 457 vista from south Africa. As its a temp visa he is still driving on his South African licence. He was done for being 4 times over the limit.

Personally I believe h should loose is licence, loose his job and have to return to south africa, but that's just my opinion, BUT I seem to remember reading about a loop ole where is courts can only ban Australian licences and cannot stop a convicted driver using a foreign licence if on a temp visa.


Is this correct?

Dorothy Jan 28th 2012 4:16 pm

Re: drink driving loop hole
 

Originally Posted by derf (Post 9871020)
Honest this is about a friend of a friend...

He is in Qld on a 457 vista from south Africa. As its a temp visa he is still driving on his South African licence. He was done for being 4 times over the limit.

Personally I believe h should loose is licence, loose his job and have to return to south africa, but that's just my opinion, BUT I seem to remember reading about a loop ole where is courts can only ban Australian licences and cannot stop a convicted driver using a foreign licence if on a temp visa.


Is this correct?

If "he's" been done four times for criminal offenses why has "he" not had "his" visa revoked?

derf Jan 28th 2012 4:18 pm

Re: drink driving loop hole
 
No not 4 times drink driving... 1 Incident , 4 times over the limit

Dorothy Jan 28th 2012 4:23 pm

Re: drink driving loop hole
 

Originally Posted by derf (Post 9871029)
No not 4 times drink driving... 1 Incident , 4 times over the limit

Ok, why then has he not had his visa revoked for being convicted of a criminal offence then?

derf Jan 28th 2012 4:53 pm

Re: drink driving loop hole
 
Not been to court yet...

monkeyalan Jan 28th 2012 5:59 pm

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i hope there is no loop hole and he gets kicked out , selfish twat.

Chelle66 Jan 28th 2012 6:09 pm

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Originally Posted by monkeyalan (Post 9871095)
i hope there is no loop hole and he gets kicked out , selfish twat.

I agree. There is no excuse for drink driving, regardless of
nationality, visa and such like. Revoke his visa and kick him out!

Cheetah7 Jan 28th 2012 6:58 pm

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Originally Posted by monkeyalan (Post 9871095)
i hope there is no loop hole and he gets kicked out , selfish twat.

Unless the person he hits whilst driving under the influence is someone he loves, then he can cry all the way to the airport/prison - take your pick.

They always do that dont they, drive whilst under the influence 'poor little me, cant get a taxi, must go out' then they get pulled over and they complain. I sincerely hope he is caught and kicked out.

Selfish shat mouth bastard.

Dorothy Jan 28th 2012 7:30 pm

Re: drink driving loop hole
 

Originally Posted by derf (Post 9871051)
Not been to court yet...

So, what exactly was the point of your thread? Was it to point out a "loophole" for other 457 holders that they could behave like morons and drive 4 times over the legal limit but not lose their license? It reads to me like you're boasting about your "friend" doing something illegal and not suffering any consequences. How does advertising this supposed loophole help anyone?

I know of one poster here (:wave: Sam) whose husband was nearly killed by a drunk driver.

Plain ****ing infuriating!

derf Jan 28th 2012 8:34 pm

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I am not moralising about the case. He drank, he drove and he was caught. The original question was, can an australian court remove a froeign driving licence. When the visa hold is on a temp visa and does not need to get a Qld licence? Or can hey only deal with australian driving licences?

If you dont know.. then please dont reply with pointless moral judgments....


thanks.

goldchoccycoin Jan 28th 2012 8:59 pm

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The Queensland Transport website seems to imply that the courts can revoke a foreign licence;

When must I not drive in Queensland with my foreign driver licence?

'You must not drive in Queensland on your foreign driver licence if:

you have been disqualified from holding or obtaining a driver licence by an order of an Australian court'

See: http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Licensing/...l-drivers.aspx

Although I also found this: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1111115401052

It may have been changed but I have no idea how to find out.

Nice Guy Jan 28th 2012 9:08 pm

drink driving loop hole
 

Originally Posted by derf (Post 9871239)
I am not moralising about the case. He drank, he drove and he was caught. The original question was, can an australian court remove a froeign driving licence. When the visa hold is on a temp visa and does not need to get a Qld licence? Or can hey only deal with australian driving licences?

If you dont know.. then please dont reply with pointless moral judgments....


thanks.


I say derf, Dorothy is a thoroughly decent person, your friend, however, is a complete knob.

Please do not tell Dorothy where she can reply to posts and where she cannot, there's a good chap.

derf Jan 28th 2012 9:18 pm

Re: drink driving loop hole
 

Originally Posted by goldchoccycoin (Post 9871288)
The Queensland Transport website seems to imply that the courts can revoke a foreign licence;

When must I not drive in Queensland with my foreign driver licence?

'You must not drive in Queensland on your foreign driver licence if:

you have been disqualified from holding or obtaining a driver licence by an order of an Australian court'

See: http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Licensing/...l-drivers.aspx

Although I also found this: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/q...-1111115401052

It may have been changed but I have no idea how to find out.

Yes i saw that web page , but interestingly it refers to speeding and demerit points. I will up date you all tomorrow after I hand out the out come of his court case.

ajw Jan 28th 2012 9:21 pm

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We'll all be on the edge of our seats waiting for that one.

paddyo Jan 29th 2012 9:55 am

Re: drink driving loop hole
 

Originally Posted by Nice Guy (Post 9871310)
I say derf, Dorothy is a thoroughly decent person, your friend, however, is a complete knob.

Please do not tell Dorothy where she can reply to posts and where she cannot, there's a good chap.

I disagree completely with Dorothy's stance and your support of it.

The OP stated his own opinion at the end of his opening question (which only one poster has had the decency to reply to properly without recourse to suggestions that HE is the perpetrator) that he also thinks the offender should loose all driving privileges, license and right to Visa.

We all, including the OP, agree that drink driving is abhorrent and that those who are found guilty as such should suffer the consequences, but play fair guys and don't shoot the messenger or jump on someone else's misguided and frankly insulting bandwagon.


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