Down Under Program - comments
Nov 28th 2003, 10:46 am
#76
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Very interesting programme,
To me it seemed very clear that Xena never had any intention of even giving this experience a chance, let alone intending to live there. Perhaps that intention was not a conscious intention - I guess fear can play funny games with your head. But any way you slice it she let herself and her family down.
You can't tell from a 1 hr programme what kind of relationship they have but I would have expected the husband to push her along a little further - it did appear that either he couldn't see she wasn't happy or chose to ignore it. odd.
I just couldn't believe that the suggestion that she took a trip home for a short time was not made - I'm feeling a bit homesick - lets give up everything we have worked two years for, jack in your job, pull our daughter out of school etc - not just take a "home break"?
I've lived in the UK for 7 years and take a home break on average every 2 years - helps a great deal.
In the end it comes down to being open to change and having courage - unfortunately for all Xena had zero of either.
You have to think that is was a selfish move of hers - her daughter was very happy and clearly living a far better lifestyle - I guess that was not a priority for the mother then?
The interview just capped it all off - unless she is the dumbest person I've ever seen - or she had every intention of fouling that up - sitting with arms folded - not recalling what her last job was (who forgets that?) and her negitive attitude - sorry I just don't buy the idea of that being nerves.
And the driving thing was laughable - you can talk yourself into disliking anything if you try hard enough.
Only shame about the programme I think is that it makes you focus less on the mechanics of the move or what can be gained from a culture/location change but rather makes you focus on how someone can remain closed to it - I want to see open people - whether those kind of people fail or not is far more educational.
ahh that feels better - rant over. :lecture:
Good luck to the family - hope they all reach some clarity one day.
To me it seemed very clear that Xena never had any intention of even giving this experience a chance, let alone intending to live there. Perhaps that intention was not a conscious intention - I guess fear can play funny games with your head. But any way you slice it she let herself and her family down.
You can't tell from a 1 hr programme what kind of relationship they have but I would have expected the husband to push her along a little further - it did appear that either he couldn't see she wasn't happy or chose to ignore it. odd.
I just couldn't believe that the suggestion that she took a trip home for a short time was not made - I'm feeling a bit homesick - lets give up everything we have worked two years for, jack in your job, pull our daughter out of school etc - not just take a "home break"?
I've lived in the UK for 7 years and take a home break on average every 2 years - helps a great deal.
In the end it comes down to being open to change and having courage - unfortunately for all Xena had zero of either.
You have to think that is was a selfish move of hers - her daughter was very happy and clearly living a far better lifestyle - I guess that was not a priority for the mother then?
The interview just capped it all off - unless she is the dumbest person I've ever seen - or she had every intention of fouling that up - sitting with arms folded - not recalling what her last job was (who forgets that?) and her negitive attitude - sorry I just don't buy the idea of that being nerves.
And the driving thing was laughable - you can talk yourself into disliking anything if you try hard enough.
Only shame about the programme I think is that it makes you focus less on the mechanics of the move or what can be gained from a culture/location change but rather makes you focus on how someone can remain closed to it - I want to see open people - whether those kind of people fail or not is far more educational.
ahh that feels better - rant over. :lecture:
Good luck to the family - hope they all reach some clarity one day.
Nov 28th 2003, 10:48 am
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Originally posted by bundy
Reminds me of the bit in The Dish where the band plays Hawaii Five-0 for the American national anthem....
Reminds me of the bit in The Dish where the band plays Hawaii Five-0 for the American national anthem....
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Nov 28th 2003, 10:54 am
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Originally posted by OzTennis
Yep, not bad The Dish, but not a patch on The Castle.
OzTennis
Yep, not bad The Dish, but not a patch on The Castle.
OzTennis
I want to go to Parkes sometime and see the dish itself....nearly made it this trip, but not quite.
Nov 28th 2003, 11:08 am
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Originally posted by bundy
That's true. Me and Mr Bundy nearly expired laughing when we went to see The Dish, but nobody else seemed to get it...I still rent it out whenever I need a good belly laugh.
I want to go to Parkes sometime and see the dish itself....nearly made it this trip, but not quite.
That's true. Me and Mr Bundy nearly expired laughing when we went to see The Dish, but nobody else seemed to get it...I still rent it out whenever I need a good belly laugh.
I want to go to Parkes sometime and see the dish itself....nearly made it this trip, but not quite.
OzTennis
P.S. Useless trivia - Kevin Harrington who appeared in The Dish is due to appear soon in Neighbours as Harold Bishop's son. He was also in Sea Change which was quite a good series.
Nov 28th 2003, 11:10 am
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Originally posted by lostkiwi
Very interesting programme,
To me it seemed very clear that Xena never had any intention of even giving this experience a chance, let alone intending to live there. Perhaps that intention was not a conscious intention - I guess fear can play funny games with your head. But any way you slice it she let herself and her family down.
You can't tell from a 1 hr programme what kind of relationship they have but I would have expected the husband to push her along a little further - it did appear that either he couldn't see she wasn't happy or chose to ignore it. odd.
I just couldn't believe that the suggestion that she took a trip home for a short time was not made - I'm feeling a bit homesick - lets give up everything we have worked two years for, jack in your job, pull our daughter out of school etc - not just take a "home break"?
I've lived in the UK for 7 years and take a home break on average every 2 years - helps a great deal.
In the end it comes down to being open to change and having courage - unfortunately for all Xena had zero of either.
You have to think that is was a selfish move of hers - her daughter was very happy and clearly living a far better lifestyle - I guess that was not a priority for the mother then?
The interview just capped it all off - unless she is the dumbest person I've ever seen - or she had every intention of fouling that up - sitting with arms folded - not recalling what her last job was (who forgets that?) and her negitive attitude - sorry I just don't buy the idea of that being nerves.
And the driving thing was laughable - you can talk yourself into disliking anything if you try hard enough.
Only shame about the programme I think is that it makes you focus less on the mechanics of the move or what can be gained from a culture/location change but rather makes you focus on how someone can remain closed to it - I want to see open people - whether those kind of people fail or not is far more educational.
ahh that feels better - rant over. :lecture:
Good luck to the family - hope they all reach some clarity one day.
Very interesting programme,
To me it seemed very clear that Xena never had any intention of even giving this experience a chance, let alone intending to live there. Perhaps that intention was not a conscious intention - I guess fear can play funny games with your head. But any way you slice it she let herself and her family down.
You can't tell from a 1 hr programme what kind of relationship they have but I would have expected the husband to push her along a little further - it did appear that either he couldn't see she wasn't happy or chose to ignore it. odd.
I just couldn't believe that the suggestion that she took a trip home for a short time was not made - I'm feeling a bit homesick - lets give up everything we have worked two years for, jack in your job, pull our daughter out of school etc - not just take a "home break"?
I've lived in the UK for 7 years and take a home break on average every 2 years - helps a great deal.
In the end it comes down to being open to change and having courage - unfortunately for all Xena had zero of either.
You have to think that is was a selfish move of hers - her daughter was very happy and clearly living a far better lifestyle - I guess that was not a priority for the mother then?
The interview just capped it all off - unless she is the dumbest person I've ever seen - or she had every intention of fouling that up - sitting with arms folded - not recalling what her last job was (who forgets that?) and her negitive attitude - sorry I just don't buy the idea of that being nerves.
And the driving thing was laughable - you can talk yourself into disliking anything if you try hard enough.
Only shame about the programme I think is that it makes you focus less on the mechanics of the move or what can be gained from a culture/location change but rather makes you focus on how someone can remain closed to it - I want to see open people - whether those kind of people fail or not is far more educational.
ahh that feels better - rant over. :lecture:
Good luck to the family - hope they all reach some clarity one day.
OzTennis
Nov 28th 2003, 11:21 am
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when they were on rise this morning, the guy it said it was a very fair reflection of what went on, but at the same time, we do have to remember they condensed a lot into 1 hour of telly.
We don't know how many private discussions went on away from the cameras - they jumped very quickly from 'staying' to 'going' to 'staying' to 'going' so it would be unfair to blame the wife completely. At some point they must have made a joint decision.
still, they didn't seem to give it a really good try....
We don't know how many private discussions went on away from the cameras - they jumped very quickly from 'staying' to 'going' to 'staying' to 'going' so it would be unfair to blame the wife completely. At some point they must have made a joint decision.
still, they didn't seem to give it a really good try....
Nov 28th 2003, 11:24 am
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Originally posted by jandjuk
when they were on rise this morning, the guy it said it was a very fair reflection of what went on, but at the same time, we do have to remember they condensed a lot into 1 hour of telly.
when they were on rise this morning, the guy it said it was a very fair reflection of what went on, but at the same time, we do have to remember they condensed a lot into 1 hour of telly.
I think at times he was showing a lot of restraint for the cameras.
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Nov 28th 2003, 11:26 am
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Originally posted by badgersmount
Indeed. Of course, the TV cameras would have latched on to the wife. In fact, the bloke probably watched it and thought - "no wonder you didn't get any of those jobs". It might well be the first time he saw what really happened. I guess he may be very unhappy. Do these people get a sneak preview?
I think at times he was showing a lot of restraint for the cameras.
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Indeed. Of course, the TV cameras would have latched on to the wife. In fact, the bloke probably watched it and thought - "no wonder you didn't get any of those jobs". It might well be the first time he saw what really happened. I guess he may be very unhappy. Do these people get a sneak preview?
I think at times he was showing a lot of restraint for the cameras.
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Nov 28th 2003, 11:27 am
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Originally posted by jandjuk
when they were on rise this morning, the guy it said it was a very fair reflection of what went on, but at the same time, we do have to remember they condensed a lot into 1 hour of telly.
We don't know how many private discussions went on away from the cameras - they jumped very quickly from 'staying' to 'going' to 'staying' to 'going' so it would be unfair to blame the wife completely. At some point they must have made a joint decision.
still, they didn't seem to give it a really good try....
when they were on rise this morning, the guy it said it was a very fair reflection of what went on, but at the same time, we do have to remember they condensed a lot into 1 hour of telly.
We don't know how many private discussions went on away from the cameras - they jumped very quickly from 'staying' to 'going' to 'staying' to 'going' so it would be unfair to blame the wife completely. At some point they must have made a joint decision.
still, they didn't seem to give it a really good try....
OzTennis
Nov 28th 2003, 11:27 am
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Originally posted by badgersmount
Indeed. Of course, the TV cameras would have latched on to the wife. In fact, the bloke probably watched it and thought - "no wonder you didn't get any of those jobs". It might well be the first time he saw what really happened. I guess he may be very unhappy. Do these people get a sneak preview?
I think at times he was showing a lot of restraint for the cameras.
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Indeed. Of course, the TV cameras would have latched on to the wife. In fact, the bloke probably watched it and thought - "no wonder you didn't get any of those jobs". It might well be the first time he saw what really happened. I guess he may be very unhappy. Do these people get a sneak preview?
I think at times he was showing a lot of restraint for the cameras.
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Nov 28th 2003, 11:28 am
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Sorry guys
We thought that "The Dish" was mildly amusing and interesting, but not full-on belly laugh stuff.
We thought that "The Dish" was mildly amusing and interesting, but not full-on belly laugh stuff.
Nov 28th 2003, 11:28 am
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Originally posted by bundy
I was once in a documentary and we didn't get a sneak preview at all. Which was amusing.
I was once in a documentary and we didn't get a sneak preview at all. Which was amusing.
I ran for cover, and tripped up in the street. You hear nothing but shouting, swearing, camera man out of breath..it was World in Action c1990
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Nov 28th 2003, 11:29 am
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Out of interest, has this made anyone have second thoughts/recognise themselves/fear the move? Esp those moving lock stock and barrel with their kids in tow.
Nov 28th 2003, 11:30 am
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Originally posted by Larissa
Sorry guys
We thought that "The Dish" was mildly amusing and interesting, but not full-on belly laugh stuff.
Sorry guys
We thought that "The Dish" was mildly amusing and interesting, but not full-on belly laugh stuff.
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Nov 28th 2003, 11:30 am
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Originally posted by Larissa
Sorry guys
We thought that "The Dish" was mildly amusing and interesting, but not full-on belly laugh stuff.
Sorry guys
We thought that "The Dish" was mildly amusing and interesting, but not full-on belly laugh stuff.