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Old Feb 16th 2005, 2:20 pm
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For all those of you who think Australia is safer than the UK!

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12275515-2,00.html
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For all those of you who think Australia is safer than the UK!

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12275515-2,00.html
I have never thought Australia as safer than the UK, interesting article but they could check what they write:

"The 2000 International Crime Victims Survey used a telephone survey to assess the prevalence and incidence of crime in industrialised countries.

About 30 per cent of Australians told researchers they had been victimised one or more times in 1999, compared with 26 per cent in England and Wales, 21 per cent in the US and 15 per cent in Japan.

England and Wales had the highest incidence of crime, the survey showed."


Either Australia is 4% worse than England and Wales, or England and Wales had a higher incidence of crime - can't be both.

Who did they phone? Must have been out that day
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Crime I would say is about the same, although from memory gun crime is significantly higher in Oz believe it or not.

Lots of Brits I've spoken to seem to think that Australia has much less crime than the UK which is simply untrue.
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Crime I would say is about the same, although from memory gun crime is significantly higher in Oz believe it or not.

Lots of Brits I've spoken to seem to think that Australia has much less crime than the UK which is simply untrue.
Probably just a touch of wishful thinking. Anyone who is clever enough to get through the TRA, application process should be clever enough to realise that the majority of the "western" world is much of a muchness.
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Better cancel all those visa applications everyone.
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The survey was done by some University in Holland, not in Australia. l don't know how accurate it would be.
 
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But at least the police turn up wen you call them.
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Originally Posted by aussie73
The survey was done by some University in Holland, not in Australia. l don't know how accurate it would be.
Probably more accurate than stats reported by the police which do not take into account unreported crime and are twisted for the politics of the era. That is why this type of survey is done by criminology departments. A comparative international study has to be somewhere and I am not sure why a uni in Holland cannot do it.

Youth unemployment, alcohol and the active, mobile Australian lifestyle could be contributing factors to the violence, according to criminologists.

University of Queensland criminologist Christine Bond said one problem was that growth in southeast Queensland had changed the structure of neighbourhoods.

"Where there is high turnover, you wouldn't have people to go to for help," Dr Bond said. "You don't have the community ties that help reduce crime."

Some interesting reading for the coastal towns where a lot of Australians are heading. May explain why Coffs Harbour, Gosford and parts of the Gold Coast have their issues.


I guess the lesson for us is to search for a place with an established community.
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But at least the police turn up wen you call them.
On a personal experience basis, I'll disagree with that. I found that the UK police turned up at incidents faster that the Australian Police, at least in NSW. I have yet had no experience of them in QLD.
 
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I have never thought Australia as safer than the UK, interesting article but they could check what they write:

"The 2000 International Crime Victims Survey used a telephone survey to assess the prevalence and incidence of crime in industrialised countries.

About 30 per cent of Australians told researchers they had been victimised one or more times in 1999, compared with 26 per cent in England and Wales, 21 per cent in the US and 15 per cent in Japan.

England and Wales had the highest incidence of crime, the survey showed."


Either Australia is 4% worse than England and Wales, or England and Wales had a higher incidence of crime - can't be both.

Who did they phone? Must have been out that day
Makes for interesting reading, especially those bits about "Australia still has the worst prevalence of crime among 17 industrialised countries" and "England and Wales had the highest incidence of crime" That does bend the brain a bit There must be a logical explanation though ? Must be something to do with the difference between "prevalence" and "incidence".


Who did they phone ? According to the ICVS: "a sample of between 1000 and 2000 households was drawn by random dialing of telephone numbers"
 
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Makes for interesting reading, especially those bits about "Australia still has the worst prevalence of crime among 17 industrialised countries" and "England and Wales had the highest incidence of crime" That does bend the brain a bit There must be a logical explanation though ? Must be something to do with the difference between "prevalence" and "incidence".


Who did they phone ? According to the ICVS: "a sample of between 1000 and 2000 households was drawn by random dialing of telephone numbers"
Isnt Prevalence - the amount of people % wise affected by it, whereas 'incidence' is the actual number of crimes. Maybe this means there are some real unlucky UK people who get 'bashed' multiple times
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