Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
#76
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
If anyone knows someone looking for casual work on the Gold Coast with defo not crap money give me a pm.....please
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
well i should know seen plenty wage slips he is a fully qualified plumber ten years exp but when you arrive they only give you provisional licence until you do the course. but he got plenty job offers they took him on weeks trial and he was made permanent after a month he has to travel 40 mins there and back so he gets extra for travelling but hes employed by big plumbing company and they pay good money he works long day but thats what hes paid .
#78
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Wouldn't get 85 grand a year up here that's for sure and I'm amazed he's getting it on the Gold coast.
For a new migrant (which is no different to being a ozzy citizen really) a realistic wage might be between $17 - $20 an hour, I know self employed painters who are on maybe $25 - $30 an hour sub contracting. Simple fact is the only way to make any decent money is to setup your own business. Massive divide between employee and employer here. The last job I had they charged me out at anywhere between $99 - $148 an hour, they paid me $19 an hour :-(. That's in the IT industry.
What's good is that everyone on here is now discussing it, usually as soon as anything negative is posted everyone jumps in and starts slagging the poster off.
For a new migrant (which is no different to being a ozzy citizen really) a realistic wage might be between $17 - $20 an hour, I know self employed painters who are on maybe $25 - $30 an hour sub contracting. Simple fact is the only way to make any decent money is to setup your own business. Massive divide between employee and employer here. The last job I had they charged me out at anywhere between $99 - $148 an hour, they paid me $19 an hour :-(. That's in the IT industry.
What's good is that everyone on here is now discussing it, usually as soon as anything negative is posted everyone jumps in and starts slagging the poster off.
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Very interesting reading all the messages referring to Australia wages etc. We are in the process of waiting for a visa (fingers crossed) ,trying to sell our house etc. We as a family of four realise that I will not be on a good wage as in the UK, but we want to give it a go, we will try to live with what money we have.
As long as we stick together as a family and try to settle into the Oz lifestyle ,we aren,t bothered about a 4/5 bedroom house with Swimming pool.The reason for us leaving the UK is to hopefully give us more family time together. As everyone says to us ( which I hate to say) YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK!!!!!
P.S What an excellent website this is, We have picked up a lot of useful info,keep up the good work everyone.
As long as we stick together as a family and try to settle into the Oz lifestyle ,we aren,t bothered about a 4/5 bedroom house with Swimming pool.The reason for us leaving the UK is to hopefully give us more family time together. As everyone says to us ( which I hate to say) YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK!!!!!
P.S What an excellent website this is, We have picked up a lot of useful info,keep up the good work everyone.
#80
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
I deal with subbies all the time and the going rate for the Gold Coast is
$60 per hour for Plumbers and Electricians. I tend to hold off till I have at least six hours work for them and then call them in.
The money is out there if you have the guts to give it a go
$60 per hour for Plumbers and Electricians. I tend to hold off till I have at least six hours work for them and then call them in.
The money is out there if you have the guts to give it a go
#81
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
I dont understand all the fuss.
Low wages, sushine coast, its a bloody holiday resort.
I wouldnt go and expect to earn what I earn now, living in 2 mins from a costal location unless Im lucky. the industry isnt there.
you need to address a few issues here and get realistic.
Low wages, sushine coast, its a bloody holiday resort.
I wouldnt go and expect to earn what I earn now, living in 2 mins from a costal location unless Im lucky. the industry isnt there.
you need to address a few issues here and get realistic.
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Plenty of industry here, it's one of the fastest growing areas in Australia. Also plenty of greedy employers paying low wages compared to the profits they make.
I know for a fact that IT companies selling PC's in the UK make about 10% - 15% markup, here they make 40% - 50% so why do they have to pay lower wages when they actually make more money than the equivalent UK company?
You always hear the same crap from employers here on the coast - the wages are lower. Can anyone answer me why this is the case? Houses cost just as much here as they do in Brisbane, stuff in the shops cost more and so do 2nd hand cars so therefore the cost of living is higher.
I think it is a conspiracy between the greedy fat cats to keep the workers at the bottom of the pile (where they belong?)
A question to on a mission - what issues need addressing and how realistic do you want me to be?
I know for a fact that IT companies selling PC's in the UK make about 10% - 15% markup, here they make 40% - 50% so why do they have to pay lower wages when they actually make more money than the equivalent UK company?
You always hear the same crap from employers here on the coast - the wages are lower. Can anyone answer me why this is the case? Houses cost just as much here as they do in Brisbane, stuff in the shops cost more and so do 2nd hand cars so therefore the cost of living is higher.
I think it is a conspiracy between the greedy fat cats to keep the workers at the bottom of the pile (where they belong?)
A question to on a mission - what issues need addressing and how realistic do you want me to be?
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Totally understand the thread.
The issues work out what you can afford and cut the cloth accordingly.
Been there done that, been ripped off and paid a shite salary, if you need the work for $ go where the work is and lower the overheads.
Problem I see with QLD, too many cashed up people moving who dont need to earn big bucks.... so therefore lower the wages.
The issues work out what you can afford and cut the cloth accordingly.
Been there done that, been ripped off and paid a shite salary, if you need the work for $ go where the work is and lower the overheads.
Problem I see with QLD, too many cashed up people moving who dont need to earn big bucks.... so therefore lower the wages.
#85
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Not much is mentioned on here about the crappy wages in Australia. Now I'm not sure if it's the whole of OZ or just the Sunshine Coast?
A normal job up here may pay $40,000 a year, not a great deal. Also a very high percentage of jobs are casual and/or part time.
A word of warning to anyone coming to the Sunshine Coast - don't expect high wages or job security - it just wont happen
Any comments?
A normal job up here may pay $40,000 a year, not a great deal. Also a very high percentage of jobs are casual and/or part time.
A word of warning to anyone coming to the Sunshine Coast - don't expect high wages or job security - it just wont happen
Any comments?
On what grounds have you based this, apart from your own personal observations. Seems quite a sweeping statement mate.
Not having a dig here, quite the contrary.. we have looked at buying a property in Caloundra , and obviously gonna rent it out, so work situation and of course job security is quite important
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
So your saying, the Sunshine Coast pays crap wages, and offers no job security?
On what grounds have you based this, apart from your own personal observations. Seems quite a sweeping statement mate.
Not having a dig here, quite the contrary.. we have looked at buying a property in Caloundra , and obviously gonna rent it out, so work situation and of course job security is quite important
On what grounds have you based this, apart from your own personal observations. Seems quite a sweeping statement mate.
Not having a dig here, quite the contrary.. we have looked at buying a property in Caloundra , and obviously gonna rent it out, so work situation and of course job security is quite important
Do you think that this isn't the case everywhere (as per my original question)?
By the way, if you are buying property I would have thought Mountain Creek would be a better choice. For a start you have shed loads of expats pouring in all the time looking for a rental, there's also a lot more work in Maroochydore than there is in Caloundra
Caloundra is on the way up though so maybe from an investment point of view it may be good?
Last edited by kevinbloomfield; Oct 7th 2007 at 10:49 am. Reason: extra stuff
#87
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
To be honest mate, I kinda agree and disagree...
In uk, i was on damn good money, probs circa 100k per yr min. GBP
In oz, circa 50-100k aussie dependant on how hot the summer gets ( air conditioning installer )
But then I get 3 or 4 months of no work, and have to live off what i got and made in summer.. which sounds easier than it is..
I think someone, posted the phrase, Cut your cloth accordingly.
I agree, but as i am not an employee, and havent been since finishing apprenticeship in 1985, I have no idea what its like to be employed.. and all this workplace thing is really over my head.
I was always under the impression that average wage in Oz was about 40k per annum.
Then again, in uk, it was always about 25k per annum, and i never knew anyone on that much money cept me, so I kept my gob shut lol.. so i suppose i am pretty crap at being realistic..
Then again, they didnt have to pay the VAT man 50-100k per year, and the tax man his funds plus a villa in benidorm to boot !! So its all swings and roundabouts...
Im digressing.. my point is this, I would suppose, that there are stable jobs in any area in Australia, especially with the economic climate the way it is right now, but its what jobs, are rewarded better both financially and backed by longevity by committed employers... surely there must be those kinda jobs , careers and relationships for employees within Sunny Coast..
and thanks, will check out mountain creek, im not a great lover of maroochy or moolooolabaaaahlabongjalongibumm
In uk, i was on damn good money, probs circa 100k per yr min. GBP
In oz, circa 50-100k aussie dependant on how hot the summer gets ( air conditioning installer )
But then I get 3 or 4 months of no work, and have to live off what i got and made in summer.. which sounds easier than it is..
I think someone, posted the phrase, Cut your cloth accordingly.
I agree, but as i am not an employee, and havent been since finishing apprenticeship in 1985, I have no idea what its like to be employed.. and all this workplace thing is really over my head.
I was always under the impression that average wage in Oz was about 40k per annum.
Then again, in uk, it was always about 25k per annum, and i never knew anyone on that much money cept me, so I kept my gob shut lol.. so i suppose i am pretty crap at being realistic..
Then again, they didnt have to pay the VAT man 50-100k per year, and the tax man his funds plus a villa in benidorm to boot !! So its all swings and roundabouts...
Im digressing.. my point is this, I would suppose, that there are stable jobs in any area in Australia, especially with the economic climate the way it is right now, but its what jobs, are rewarded better both financially and backed by longevity by committed employers... surely there must be those kinda jobs , careers and relationships for employees within Sunny Coast..
and thanks, will check out mountain creek, im not a great lover of maroochy or moolooolabaaaahlabongjalongibumm
#88
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
So your saying, the Sunshine Coast pays crap wages, and offers no job security?
On what grounds have you based this, apart from your own personal observations. Seems quite a sweeping statement mate.
Not having a dig here, quite the contrary.. we have looked at buying a property in Caloundra , and obviously gonna rent it out, so work situation and of course job security is quite important
On what grounds have you based this, apart from your own personal observations. Seems quite a sweeping statement mate.
Not having a dig here, quite the contrary.. we have looked at buying a property in Caloundra , and obviously gonna rent it out, so work situation and of course job security is quite important
Having said that, as has previously been mentioned, the Gold and Sunshine Coasts have a fabulous climate and lifestyle, as far as we were concerned that was the trade-off, ( as long as you can afford to pay the bills and you are not watching every penny you spend)
Some workers do really well though and earn top pay, much like everywhere else.
#89
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
To be honest mate, I kinda agree and disagree...
In uk, i was on damn good money, probs circa 100k per yr min. GBP
In oz, circa 50-100k aussie dependant on how hot the summer gets ( air conditioning installer )
But then I get 3 or 4 months of no work, and have to live off what i got and made in summer.. which sounds easier than it is..
I think someone, posted the phrase, Cut your cloth accordingly.
I agree, but as i am not an employee, and havent been since finishing apprenticeship in 1985, I have no idea what its like to be employed.. and all this workplace thing is really over my head.
I was always under the impression that average wage in Oz was about 40k per annum.
Then again, in uk, it was always about 25k per annum, and i never knew anyone on that much money cept me, so I kept my gob shut lol.. so i suppose i am pretty crap at being realistic..
Then again, they didnt have to pay the VAT man 50-100k per year, and the tax man his funds plus a villa in benidorm to boot !! So its all swings and roundabouts...
Im digressing.. my point is this, I would suppose, that there are stable jobs in any area in Australia, especially with the economic climate the way it is right now, but its what jobs, are rewarded better both financially and backed by longevity by committed employers... surely there must be those kinda jobs , careers and relationships for employees within Sunny Coast..
and thanks, will check out mountain creek, im not a great lover of maroochy or moolooolabaaaahlabongjalongibumm
In uk, i was on damn good money, probs circa 100k per yr min. GBP
In oz, circa 50-100k aussie dependant on how hot the summer gets ( air conditioning installer )
But then I get 3 or 4 months of no work, and have to live off what i got and made in summer.. which sounds easier than it is..
I think someone, posted the phrase, Cut your cloth accordingly.
I agree, but as i am not an employee, and havent been since finishing apprenticeship in 1985, I have no idea what its like to be employed.. and all this workplace thing is really over my head.
I was always under the impression that average wage in Oz was about 40k per annum.
Then again, in uk, it was always about 25k per annum, and i never knew anyone on that much money cept me, so I kept my gob shut lol.. so i suppose i am pretty crap at being realistic..
Then again, they didnt have to pay the VAT man 50-100k per year, and the tax man his funds plus a villa in benidorm to boot !! So its all swings and roundabouts...
Im digressing.. my point is this, I would suppose, that there are stable jobs in any area in Australia, especially with the economic climate the way it is right now, but its what jobs, are rewarded better both financially and backed by longevity by committed employers... surely there must be those kinda jobs , careers and relationships for employees within Sunny Coast..
and thanks, will check out mountain creek, im not a great lover of maroochy or moolooolabaaaahlabongjalongibumm
Its our plan to move to Qld next year. The job I will get will pay $2000 every 2 weeks. Would this be enough do you think for a family ( 2 adults 3 kids ) to live on in rented accommodation. Also which area would best suit We were thinking of Brisbane but rent is expensive so Cairns looks better and cheaper what do all you wonderful people think
#90
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Hi
Its our plan to move to Qld next year. The job I will get will pay $2000 every 2 weeks. Would this be enough do you think for a family ( 2 adults 3 kids ) to live on in rented accommodation. Also which area would best suit We were thinking of Brisbane but rent is expensive so Cairns looks better and cheaper what do all you wonderful people think
Its our plan to move to Qld next year. The job I will get will pay $2000 every 2 weeks. Would this be enough do you think for a family ( 2 adults 3 kids ) to live on in rented accommodation. Also which area would best suit We were thinking of Brisbane but rent is expensive so Cairns looks better and cheaper what do all you wonderful people think
Well im sure you can but I wouldnt move to the other side of the world if that's what was facing me. No disrespect.