Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
#31
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
I would be surprised if low wages, workplace reform, casual labour, part time on call, days off without pay dont exist in plenty of industries in perth too.
#32
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Why would it be just the sunshine coast, the exact same problems exists in many areas not only in qld, nsw coasts, in victoria once out of the main 2 hour radius, tasmania, adelaide.
I would be surprised if low wages, workplace reform, casual labour, part time on call, days off without pay dont exist in plenty of industries in perth too.
I would be surprised if low wages, workplace reform, casual labour, part time on call, days off without pay dont exist in plenty of industries in perth too.
#33
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
he is lucky as he is going back to the engineering company (after the whole apprenticeship/bullshit debacle!) he started with when we first arrived and they are paying him the rate he left on
so no complaints here
Last edited by bridie; Oct 5th 2007 at 3:03 am.
#34
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Across all industry sectors employers are realising they cant afford to lose people, the cost of finding someone new, generally taking some sort of risk on them as there not much more than an 80% fit, having to train them up etc all adds up and the salary portion is'nt as big a chunk of the overall cost as people imagine.
I'd say now is the time for people to negotiate a better deal if their not being paid market rate.
#35
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
I have been told by a few people (business owners) that the reason for so many casual / part time job was due to all the red tape and employment laws.
It's very difficult to get rid of an employee once they are taken on full time. So maybe the new IR laws will create more full time positions.
It's very difficult to get rid of an employee once they are taken on full time. So maybe the new IR laws will create more full time positions.
And even before the new IR laws were introduced, if an employer wanted rid there wasnt a problem (except if it was a government job maybe.)
I can speak from personal experience of a family member, and also working in the Employment industry on the Gold Coast for five years, from 1995 to 2000.
I believe the IR laws will cost the goverment the next election.
#36
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Of course the business owners are going to say that.
And even before the new IR laws were introduced, if an employer wanted rid there wasnt a problem (except if it was a government job maybe.)
I can speak from personal experience of a family member, and also working in the Employment industry on the Gold Coast for five years, from 1995 to 2000.
I believe the IR laws will cost the goverment the next election.
And even before the new IR laws were introduced, if an employer wanted rid there wasnt a problem (except if it was a government job maybe.)
I can speak from personal experience of a family member, and also working in the Employment industry on the Gold Coast for five years, from 1995 to 2000.
I believe the IR laws will cost the goverment the next election.
oops i mean labour party
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
So off the subject it goes :-)
I think people on their way over need to know the situation regarding work and wages. I reckon if you could get $50,000 a year and a permanent contract up here you'd be one of the very few. Remember, that's only the equivelent of 20,000 pounds and almost everything costs either the same or more here. OK, petrol's cheaper and the insurance is less but you have to pay more for a 2nd hand car and the annual rego is on par with the road tax in the UK.
Don't get me wrong, we love it here and we can't see us ever going back to the UK, we aren't even that keen to go back for a holiday. As long as people are happier living in a cleaner, friendlier and altogether nicer place then they'll be fine. If they want a full time, permanent and well paid job then stay in the UK.
By the way, the only people in favour of the work reforms are employers, I've yet to hear of an employee coming out on top. The government are spending 10's of thousands of $$ on TV adverts trying to make the reforms look good. Only because an election is looming of course!
I think people on their way over need to know the situation regarding work and wages. I reckon if you could get $50,000 a year and a permanent contract up here you'd be one of the very few. Remember, that's only the equivelent of 20,000 pounds and almost everything costs either the same or more here. OK, petrol's cheaper and the insurance is less but you have to pay more for a 2nd hand car and the annual rego is on par with the road tax in the UK.
Don't get me wrong, we love it here and we can't see us ever going back to the UK, we aren't even that keen to go back for a holiday. As long as people are happier living in a cleaner, friendlier and altogether nicer place then they'll be fine. If they want a full time, permanent and well paid job then stay in the UK.
By the way, the only people in favour of the work reforms are employers, I've yet to hear of an employee coming out on top. The government are spending 10's of thousands of $$ on TV adverts trying to make the reforms look good. Only because an election is looming of course!
#42
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
So off the subject it goes :-)
I think people on their way over need to know the situation regarding work and wages. I reckon if you could get $50,000 a year and a permanent contract up here you'd be one of the very few. Remember, that's only the equivelent of 20,000 pounds and almost everything costs either the same or more here. OK, petrol's cheaper and the insurance is less but you have to pay more for a 2nd hand car and the annual rego is on par with the road tax in the UK.
Don't get me wrong, we love it here and we can't see us ever going back to the UK, we aren't even that keen to go back for a holiday. As long as people are happier living in a cleaner, friendlier and altogether nicer place then they'll be fine. If they want a full time, permanent and well paid job then stay in the UK.
By the way, the only people in favour of the work reforms are employers, I've yet to hear of an employee coming out on top. The government are spending 10's of thousands of $$ on TV adverts trying to make the reforms look good. Only because an election is looming of course!
I think people on their way over need to know the situation regarding work and wages. I reckon if you could get $50,000 a year and a permanent contract up here you'd be one of the very few. Remember, that's only the equivelent of 20,000 pounds and almost everything costs either the same or more here. OK, petrol's cheaper and the insurance is less but you have to pay more for a 2nd hand car and the annual rego is on par with the road tax in the UK.
Don't get me wrong, we love it here and we can't see us ever going back to the UK, we aren't even that keen to go back for a holiday. As long as people are happier living in a cleaner, friendlier and altogether nicer place then they'll be fine. If they want a full time, permanent and well paid job then stay in the UK.
By the way, the only people in favour of the work reforms are employers, I've yet to hear of an employee coming out on top. The government are spending 10's of thousands of $$ on TV adverts trying to make the reforms look good. Only because an election is looming of course!
#43
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Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Spot on Kev! The adverts are wearing thin now......everyone's complaining about them, they'll do nothing to sway the election. I think what you've provided is a very realistic scenario, $50k on a permanent contract - rare to find but if you get it great! Out of the $50k you have to allow for all your expenditure, a $390k mortgage works out at approx $2700 a month, allow $600-800 for groceries (family of 5) $400 on petrol (depending on amount of travel) $100 broadband internet, $80 mobile phone $50 medical (sometimes more) plus theres elecy,gas,water and of course rates etc It all adds up!
me and my friend have set up our own business it goes live on web by monday Gold coast relocations decided if you cant beat em join them plus with 6 kids trying to find a job that fits in with school run and childcare costs better off starting off working from home you can but try
lesley
#44
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
Not much is mentioned on here about the crappy wages in Australia. Now I'm not sure if it's the whole of OZ or just the Sunshine Coast?
A normal job up here may pay $40,000 a year, not a great deal. Also a very high percentage of jobs are casual and/or part time.
A word of warning to anyone coming to the Sunshine Coast - don't expect high wages or job security - it just wont happen
Any comments?
A normal job up here may pay $40,000 a year, not a great deal. Also a very high percentage of jobs are casual and/or part time.
A word of warning to anyone coming to the Sunshine Coast - don't expect high wages or job security - it just wont happen
Any comments?
We live in WA, regional and salaries aren't good. My husband is an IT specialist and is being paid around 60K per year but he has now changed from employed to contracting so he can supplement that with other work and charge a higher hourly rate. I work for a British guy and most of my work is for UK companies. I get $30 per hour which is pretty good for regional WA. We weren't prepared for the drop that my husband was going to have to take in salary and subsequently, we struggle financially!
#45
Re: Crap wages - all of Australia or just the Sunshine Coast?
So off the subject it goes :-)
I think people on their way over need to know the situation regarding work and wages. I reckon if you could get $50,000 a year and a permanent contract up here you'd be one of the very few. Remember, that's only the equivelent of 20,000 pounds and almost everything costs either the same or more here. OK, petrol's cheaper and the insurance is less but you have to pay more for a 2nd hand car and the annual rego is on par with the road tax in the UK.
Don't get me wrong, we love it here and we can't see us ever going back to the UK, we aren't even that keen to go back for a holiday. As long as people are happier living in a cleaner, friendlier and altogether nicer place then they'll be fine. If they want a full time, permanent and well paid job then stay in the UK.
By the way, the only people in favour of the work reforms are employers, I've yet to hear of an employee coming out on top. The government are spending 10's of thousands of $$ on TV adverts trying to make the reforms look good. Only because an election is looming of course!
I think people on their way over need to know the situation regarding work and wages. I reckon if you could get $50,000 a year and a permanent contract up here you'd be one of the very few. Remember, that's only the equivelent of 20,000 pounds and almost everything costs either the same or more here. OK, petrol's cheaper and the insurance is less but you have to pay more for a 2nd hand car and the annual rego is on par with the road tax in the UK.
Don't get me wrong, we love it here and we can't see us ever going back to the UK, we aren't even that keen to go back for a holiday. As long as people are happier living in a cleaner, friendlier and altogether nicer place then they'll be fine. If they want a full time, permanent and well paid job then stay in the UK.
By the way, the only people in favour of the work reforms are employers, I've yet to hear of an employee coming out on top. The government are spending 10's of thousands of $$ on TV adverts trying to make the reforms look good. Only because an election is looming of course!
I agree on all points.
My OH is on $60k per year, in the UK he was on £25,000
I have noticed that a lot of the 'I'm on less money here' and 'the wages are crap here' seem to be from people in IT or similar industies.