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Old Dec 13th 2009, 11:17 pm
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Default Re: Covert Racism! shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy
Your attitude is exactly what is wrong. You see white people as naturally having higher standards than 'darkies' therefore its ok for Indians to be racist as they are less 'evolved' than higher beings i.e. White Westerners.

I find your view to be extraordinarily racist.
I'm racist because I made the observation that anti-discrimination laws exist less in developing countries such as India? You are a fool.
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Old Dec 13th 2009, 11:25 pm
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Discrimination is more prevalent in India than anywhere else in the world.... Male vs female; light skin vs dark skin; discrimination based on caste, religion, region, language;

In fact there are laws openly supporting discrimination in India

It has everything to do with politics and trying to gain votes.
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Originally Posted by Devlin
Racism is far worse in Australia!
Overt racism possibly, covert, not even close.
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Old Dec 14th 2009, 2:47 am
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Originally Posted by Devlin
Racism is far worse in Australia!
In times past this was for certain. These days it is far more conceled and far from clear to what extent society holds certain views as racism as most would claim they are not.
Still feel there are strong under currents out there which could turn into a reaction giving the opportunity to vent pent up emotions in a nationalist backlash.
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Old Dec 14th 2009, 2:51 am
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Default Re: Covert Racism! shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by Amazulu
Yes, it's almost as bad as the UK.
Have to agree....
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Old Dec 14th 2009, 2:57 am
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Maybe to some people, but not to others... As a Brit in the UK I never noticed it, but my wife did.

She prefers living in Australia = Racism is worse in the UK. (for some people)
I would add depends where in the UK. Lived in Perth a few decades ago with my former Malaysian Chinese partner and her difference was far more an issue here than in London, Twenty plus years ago few Asians were visible....Today ofcourse it is different ...sometimes a little envious how easy it appears to be..
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Default Re: Covert Racism! shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy
Your attitude is exactly what is wrong. You see white people as naturally having higher standards than 'darkies' therefore its ok for Indians to be racist as they are less 'evolved' than higher beings i.e. White Westerners.

I find your view to be extraordinarily racist.
I find your choice of words racist.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
I find your choice of words racist.
You're not really a Lord, are you?
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Last time we were expanding the team, we did not hire any non-Anglos because none of them had the requisite language skills. Mumbling in English does not cut it.

We were though at pains to point out that the team is multi-cultural.

Every team I have worked on in Australia has been multi-cultural - far more so that the City of London which I found far more elitist.
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Default Re: Covert Racism! shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by IndieG
Discrimination is more prevalent in India than anywhere else in the world.... Male vs female; light skin vs dark skin; discrimination based on caste, religion, region, language;

In fact there are laws openly supporting discrimination in India

It has everything to do with politics and trying to gain votes.

Bang on target !! ..........
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Default Re: Covert Racism! shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by Amazulu
I disagree. I reckon it's no different to the UK or most other western countries. A lot of what is defined as racism on this site i.e a white Australian discriminating against a white Briton is not racism - as both are of the same race.
That may be the case in Australia - but not in the UK. The UK courts give a very wide definition of race and it includes nationality. That is why for example a caucasian English national has successfully sued a caucasian Scottish national for racial discrimination. There is numerous case law on this in the UK where caucasions have sued other caucasions for racial discrimination and won and the only differing factor has been one of nationality albeit Scots, English, Welsh or Irish.

Coming back to the original thread racism in Australia is no different from racism in other developed western countries - whether it is USA, UK, Germany, Sweden etc. At least the majority of western countries have legislation in place to outlaw such practices.

If you want to see open, direct discrimination - visit China as a black or brown skinned person; or indeed, as has been pointed out - India.
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Default Re: Covert Racism! shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by The Woodcutter
That may be the case in Australia - but not in the UK. The UK courts give a very wide definition of race and it includes nationality. That is why for example a caucasian English national has successfully sued a caucasian Scottish national for racial discrimination.
Oh? Then the word "race" no longer means to the English what is does in English. An example case please.
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Old Dec 15th 2009, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by WillBlack
Oh? Then the word "race" no longer means to the English what is does in English. An example case please.
Correct, rightly or wrongly racial discrimination in the UK applies across the board, race, colour and nationality.
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
Last time we were expanding the team, we did not hire any non-Anglos because none of them had the requisite language skills. Mumbling in English does not cut it.

We were though at pains to point out that the team is multi-cultural.

Every team I have worked on in Australia has been multi-cultural - far more so that the City of London which I found far more elitist.
Perhaps working in that small area called The City but not London in general surely? If you meant London in general then all i can say is we had vastly different experiences as London is close to being the most multi cultural city on earth way above what have witnessed in Australia,although this has changed a lot over the past decade i admit.
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Originally Posted by kporte
Correct, rightly or wrongly racial discrimination in the UK applies across the board, race, colour and nationality.
Then English Law uses some other language other than English.

I suspect that English Law codifies what is legal and what is illegal discrimination and that discrimination by race is amongst those forms of discrimination which are illegal.

I further suspect, from what I read here, that the English find it hard to discriminate between discrimination and racial discrimination.
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