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Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
I am trying to gather my thoughts on the wisdom & timing of our daughter attending university in the UK. It is something we are thinking about and wondered if anyone else has considered or done same.
My first consideration is the financial implication of being considered an international student instead of a local/EU student even though she is dual citizen. My understanding is that if a British citizen resident outside of EU wishes to attend university in the UK, and they have not completed at least their last 3 years high school in the UK/EU, they will have to pay international fees at university. So that brings me to the fees differences between local and international and if it is worth trying to be classed as a local student, i.e. complete high school in UK. I believe it is too late to take her back at 15 so would need to do so at 14 or earlier. Examining the local/EU versus international fees 3 universities: Cambridge, Sussex & Kingston: University of Cambridge Local fees £9,000 / year for any course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...e/tuition.html International fees between £13,662 - £33,069 / year depending on course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...nce/index.html University of Sussex Local fees £9,000 / year for any course, except medicine £19,000 per year http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...ionfees/homeeu International fees between £13,000 - £24,860 / year depending on course http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...nfees/overseas Kingston Local fees ~£9,000 / year for any course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/undergradu...-funding/#fees International fees between £10,750 to £12,350 / year depending on course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/internatio...-funding/fees/ From fees quoted it would seem all local/EU students now pay £9,000 / year. Unless studying medicine at Cambridge will likely have an additional fee burden of up to £20000 over a 4 year degree. Conclusion Not worth the effort to relocate for 3-4 years to save a potential £20000. Anyone have any other opinions or experiences? |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by ossigeno
(Post 10612215)
I am trying to gather my thoughts on the wisdom & timing of our daughter attending university in the UK. It is something we are thinking about and wondered if anyone else has considered or done same.
My first consideration is the financial implication of being considered an international student instead of a local/EU student even though she is dual citizen. My understanding is that if a British citizen resident outside of EU wishes to attend university in the UK, and they have not completed at least their last 3 years high school in the UK/EU, they will have to pay international fees at university. So that brings me to the fees differences between local and international and if it is worth trying to be classed as a local student, i.e. complete high school in UK. I believe it is too late to take her back at 15 so would need to do so at 14 or earlier. Examining the local/EU versus international fees 3 universities: Cambridge, Sussex & Kingston: University of Cambridge Local fees £9,000 / year for any course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...e/tuition.html International fees between £13,662 - £33,069 / year depending on course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...nce/index.html University of Sussex Local fees £9,000 / year for any course, except medicine £19,000 per year http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...ionfees/homeeu International fees between £13,000 - £24,860 / year depending on course http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...nfees/overseas Kingston Local fees ~£9,000 / year for any course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/undergradu...-funding/#fees International fees between £10,750 to £12,350 / year depending on course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/internatio...-funding/fees/ From fees quoted it would seem all local/EU students now pay £9,000 / year. Unless studying medicine at Cambridge will likely have an additional fee burden of up to £20000 over a 4 year degree. Conclusion Not worth the effort to relocate for 3-4 years to save a potential £20000. Anyone have any other opinions or experiences? Scholarship? Hardwork? |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by ossigeno
(Post 10612215)
I am trying to gather my thoughts on the wisdom & timing of our daughter attending university in the UK. It is something we are thinking about and wondered if anyone else has considered or done same.
My first consideration is the financial implication of being considered an international student instead of a local/EU student even though she is dual citizen. My understanding is that if a British citizen resident outside of EU wishes to attend university in the UK, and they have not completed at least their last 3 years high school in the UK/EU, they will have to pay international fees at university. So that brings me to the fees differences between local and international and if it is worth trying to be classed as a local student, i.e. complete high school in UK. I believe it is too late to take her back at 15 so would need to do so at 14 or earlier. Examining the local/EU versus international fees 3 universities: Cambridge, Sussex & Kingston: University of Cambridge Local fees £9,000 / year for any course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...e/tuition.html International fees between £13,662 - £33,069 / year depending on course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...nce/index.html University of Sussex Local fees £9,000 / year for any course, except medicine £19,000 per year http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...ionfees/homeeu International fees between £13,000 - £24,860 / year depending on course http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...nfees/overseas Kingston Local fees ~£9,000 / year for any course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/undergradu...-funding/#fees International fees between £10,750 to £12,350 / year depending on course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/internatio...-funding/fees/ From fees quoted it would seem all local/EU students now pay £9,000 / year. Unless studying medicine at Cambridge will likely have an additional fee burden of up to £20000 over a 4 year degree. Conclusion Not worth the effort to relocate for 3-4 years to save a potential £20000. Anyone have any other opinions or experiences? I know of someone who missed out on doing Law at Melb Uni by half a mark. He is now at Columbia which worked out a cheaper option according to his father. HTH |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by RedDragon2008
(Post 10612278)
Plenty of Australian children attend university in UK
Scholarship? Hardwork? |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by OzSheila
(Post 10612333)
I know of someone who missed out on doing Law at Melb Uni by half a mark. He is now at Columbia which worked out a cheaper option according to his father. HTH Daughter is studying Engineering this year, hopes to transfer to Melbourne Uni at the end of this year. We haven't seen anyone from an Ivy League institution. She collapsed her marks due to spreading herself to thin with her Music and Science subjects and just scraped into Vic Uni. Doing really well this year, by far the youngest in her subjects and teaching the mostly overseas students the Aus learning systems ... Has given up her music at a serious level for now though, which is a shame as she was on target for the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. I just checked with my Daughter and she said the courses at Melbourne Uni are 8K per term, which does indeed sound a bit steep. As that would be 128K per year... even with Hecs and the prospect at a fairly decent wage on completion thats still a bit steep. One things for sure, I doubt you would get anything like the HECS system overseas ? |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 10612371)
I just checked with my Daughter and she said the courses at Melbourne Uni are 8K per term, which does indeed sound a bit steep. As that would be 128K per year... even with Hecs and the prospect at a fairly decent wage on completion thats still a bit steep.
They cost from $5868 (humanities, education) to $9792 (law, medicine, commerce etc) a year. Engineering is $8363 a year (not $128k!) International fees are more expensive and you don't get HECS with them. |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by ossigeno
(Post 10612215)
My first consideration is the financial implication of being considered an international student instead of a local/EU student even though she is dual citizen.
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Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by roaringmouse
(Post 10612476)
Surely that should be your daughters consideration, and how she will go about having the fees paid?
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Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by ossigeno
(Post 10612215)
I am trying to gather my thoughts on the wisdom & timing of our daughter attending university in the UK. It is something we are thinking about and wondered if anyone else has considered or done same.
My first consideration is the financial implication of being considered an international student instead of a local/EU student even though she is dual citizen. My understanding is that if a British citizen resident outside of EU wishes to attend university in the UK, and they have not completed at least their last 3 years high school in the UK/EU, they will have to pay international fees at university. So that brings me to the fees differences between local and international and if it is worth trying to be classed as a local student, i.e. complete high school in UK. I believe it is too late to take her back at 15 so would need to do so at 14 or earlier. Examining the local/EU versus international fees 3 universities: Cambridge, Sussex & Kingston: University of Cambridge Local fees £9,000 / year for any course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...e/tuition.html International fees between £13,662 - £33,069 / year depending on course http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergrad...nce/index.html University of Sussex Local fees £9,000 / year for any course, except medicine £19,000 per year http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...ionfees/homeeu International fees between £13,000 - £24,860 / year depending on course http://www.sussex.ac.uk/study/ug/fun...nfees/overseas Kingston Local fees ~£9,000 / year for any course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/undergradu...-funding/#fees International fees between £10,750 to £12,350 / year depending on course http://www.kingston.ac.uk/internatio...-funding/fees/ From fees quoted it would seem all local/EU students now pay £9,000 / year. Unless studying medicine at Cambridge will likely have an additional fee burden of up to £20000 over a 4 year degree. Conclusion Not worth the effort to relocate for 3-4 years to save a potential £20000. Anyone have any other opinions or experiences? |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 10612501)
Why a UK uni over an Australian one?
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 10612501)
It'd be a bugger if you spent all that money moving back, and she decided that uni wasn't for her.
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Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by ossigeno
(Post 10612511)
Is certainly a risk. The conclusion I draw when putting it on paper was not to worry about moving back to try to be classed as a local student since the likely difference in fees would be ~GBP20k. Not a huge amount in the overall scheme of things. I have had this on the back of my mind for a few months and only by jotting it down did I realise it is not really worth worry about.
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Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by OzSheila
(Post 10612333)
Have you considered any US universities? I know reps from several of the Ivy League unis attend my sons' school and daughter's ex High Schools vying for students. There are lots of opportunities for scholarships etc.
I know of someone who missed out on doing Law at Melb Uni by half a mark. He is now at Columbia which worked out a cheaper option according to his father. HTH |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
The other thing to consider, if you come back to the UK, is going to uni in Europe. A few of my daughters' peers are considering/doing that as the fees are cheaper than the UK and it's looked on quite favourably by employers, apparently.
My eldest's German teacher has tried to persuade her to go to uni in Germany, but she's not so keen! It's tough to make a decision (even for a parent) at 12 as they change so much in the following 6 years and what they want now will not necessarily what they want at 18. It's likely that I will have one in the UK and one or two in Australia in the next 5 years! |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Your daughter is 12?!
I think you'll need to revisit this nearer the time! So much can and will change between now and then. ;) |
Re: Considering the merits of daughter attending uni in UK
Originally Posted by Joe King
(Post 10613057)
Your daughter is 12?!
I think you'll need to revisit this nearer the time! So much can and will change between now and then. ;) |
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