Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Australia
Reload this Page >

Complaint about Australian Visa

Complaint about Australian Visa

Thread Tools
 
Old Jul 30th 2012, 8:15 pm
  #1  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: UK thankfully
Posts: 6
DCart78 is an unknown quantity at this point
Angry Complaint about Australian Visa

Strange question, but does anyone know where I can lodge a complaint about my visa? Basically I was granted a Skilled Migration visa with state sponsorship, but when I arrived in Australia, nearly everyone I spoke to when looking for a job told me my skills were not recognised in Australia and hence I was deemed to be unskilled. Basically the only work I could find in my profession was at the bottom end which does not normally require any qualifications either in the UK or Australia.

As a result of this I have returned to the UK because I can get a job in my profession at a qualified level (which pays minimum 2x what the unqualified level jobs pay). I am very frustrated as the 8 months I spent in Sydney were a waste of my time and soured the 3 months I spent travelling round the country to the extent that I don't want to go back and now I am annoyed that I paid thousands to get a worthless visa in the first place

Rant over. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated
DCart78 is offline  
Old Jul 30th 2012, 8:34 pm
  #2  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Nowhere - I'm a travelling (wo)man!
Posts: 2,362
louie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

You are on a hiding to nothing - the response would be that you should have done your research before applying for your visa. In any case, plenty of people on here who are ACCA qualified have made a success of their careers in Australia, so some people have had a different experience to you.

It may have been that your CV was not up to the job, the recruiters simply didn't understand ACCA or it may be that you just timed it badly and jobs were scarce so the old problem of employers recruiting people with local experience reared its head.

It's a shame that you didn't post here before going back because you may have found some helpful tips. Still, it's too late now - I hope you manage to pick up the pieces back in the UK.

I might find myself in the same position as you (ie jobless!) when I eventually make it - I'm ACA myself.
louie is offline  
Old Jul 30th 2012, 8:59 pm
  #3  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: UK thankfully
Posts: 6
DCart78 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Yes, unfortunately I did my research when I did my Visa and on-line it did seem to indicate that having the ACCA would not be a problem but when I got out to Australia it was a different picture. My reason for leaving was that I was running out of money and could not afford to remain in Australia without a job. I know people may suggest that I should have taken an alternative unskilled job, but I disagree since if I have a skilled visa, then working in an unskilled profession to me is fraudulently abusing the visa system.

Having said that, you should have an easier run of it as ACA's could do a direct 'swap' to become CA's in Australia so things should run smoother, I knew 3 ACA's with less experience than me who managed to get permanent positions in Sydney in weeks of arriving.

Since arriving back in the UK, I have managed to get a job quite easily at a Chartered Firm

In Australia I did get a lot of positive feedback from 2 agencies regarding jobs, but 1 focused only in forensic accounting and the other struggled to pitch me at the right level as I seemed to be over-qualified or under-qualified for the positions they put me forward for. The big agencies though only ever put me forward for the basic entry level jobs which I saw as a waste of time l.
DCart78 is offline  
Old Jul 30th 2012, 9:16 pm
  #4  
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Nowhere - I'm a travelling (wo)man!
Posts: 2,362
louie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond reputelouie has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Actually I am already an Aussie CA, I even did the tax and law exams before they changed the rules. But I've spent the last 15 years in a very specialist niche area that is specific to the UK so I'm not expecting much. But then I've worked so hard and such long hours for so long, running my own practice (in partnership), the thought of doing something reasonably 9-5 with less responsibility, even at a very reduced salary, appeals greatly right now.....

The plan is a gap year first though as we never had one after university.

Glad to hear you've found something to suit since you got back.
louie is offline  
Old Jul 30th 2012, 9:28 pm
  #5  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Bermudashorts's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 14,284
Bermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

I don't know why you struggled to find work, but I am sure it is nothing to do with the visa. Plenty of UK qualified ACCAs working here, probably just unlucky timing for you
Bermudashorts is offline  
Old Jul 30th 2012, 10:26 pm
  #6  
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,300
Zen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond reputeZen10 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Originally Posted by DCart78
Strange question, but does anyone know where I can lodge a complaint about my visa? Basically I was granted a Skilled Migration visa with state sponsorship, but when I arrived in Australia, nearly everyone I spoke to when looking for a job told me my skills were not recognised in Australia and hence I was deemed to be unskilled. Basically the only work I could find in my profession was at the bottom end which does not normally require any qualifications either in the UK or Australia.

As a result of this I have returned to the UK because I can get a job in my profession at a qualified level (which pays minimum 2x what the unqualified level jobs pay). I am very frustrated as the 8 months I spent in Sydney were a waste of my time and soured the 3 months I spent travelling round the country to the extent that I don't want to go back and now I am annoyed that I paid thousands to get a worthless visa in the first place

Rant over. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated
I know there have been some changes in accountancy regulations recently because I know someone who tried to explain it to me but I didn't really keep up with his explanation! Perhaps this is the reason, but I doubt you have any kind of case. The bottom line is your skills are assessed but you are never guaranteed work, so after the visa is issued you throw the dice.
Zen10 is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 1:55 am
  #7  
Crazy Cat Lady
 
moneypenny20's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 65,493
moneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond reputemoneypenny20 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

I'm more likely to win the big prize on Lotto than you are to get any positive outcome from complaining about your visa. You were granted a visa, no one said you'd get a job out of it once you were here. The visa is only worthless to you because you deem it to be so. Had you found work of any description to tide you over until you found employment in your particular field it would be a different story. In fact if your visa is still valid you can still move over here. You chose not to, your decision, not DIACs. Sorry.
moneypenny20 is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 2:54 am
  #8  
Home and Happy
 
Pollyana's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Location: Keep true friends and puppets close, trust no-one else...
Posts: 93,807
Pollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond reputePollyana has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Originally Posted by DCart78
Yes, unfortunately I did my research when I did my Visa and on-line it did seem to indicate that having the ACCA would not be a problem but when I got out to Australia it was a different picture. My reason for leaving was that I was running out of money and could not afford to remain in Australia without a job. I know people may suggest that I should have taken an alternative unskilled job, but I disagree since if I have a skilled visa, then working in an unskilled profession to me is fraudulently abusing the visa system.

Having said that, you should have an easier run of it as ACA's could do a direct 'swap' to become CA's in Australia so things should run smoother, I knew 3 ACA's with less experience than me who managed to get permanent positions in Sydney in weeks of arriving.

Since arriving back in the UK, I have managed to get a job quite easily at a Chartered Firm

In Australia I did get a lot of positive feedback from 2 agencies regarding jobs, but 1 focused only in forensic accounting and the other struggled to pitch me at the right level as I seemed to be over-qualified or under-qualified for the positions they put me forward for. The big agencies though only ever put me forward for the basic entry level jobs which I saw as a waste of time l.
It would only have been "fraudulent abuse" if you held a visa with conditions that restricted what role you could do - such as a 457 which ties you to one job, one employer. Otherwise there is absolutely nothing fraudulent about working in other jobs and you'll find many people have done exactly that. A lot of people then move on to find positions later within their own fields.
Pollyana is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 4:24 am
  #9  
Spud
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Avoca Beach
Posts: 565
spuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond reputespuddyo has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Many of us have taken a 'lowly' job to get a foot in the door. Once in a job a good employer should be switched on enough to know your true potential and offer a better position if one came available. My missus was a Bank Manager of ten years in Manchester and could only geta job as a sipervisor in a call centre here. Within 2 years she was a Bank Manager again and then went up from there.
spuddyo is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 6:25 am
  #10  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 133
nicolac34 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Originally Posted by spuddyo
Many of us have taken a 'lowly' job to get a foot in the door. Once in a job a good employer should be switched on enough to know your true potential and offer a better position if one came available. My missus was a Bank Manager of ten years in Manchester and could only geta job as a sipervisor in a call centre here. Within 2 years she was a Bank Manager again and then went up from there.
I agree.

I spent years qualifying as a Company Secretary in England. When I came to Perth not one recruitment agent I spoke to knew what one was. To them I was a Secretary/PA and those were the only jobs they'd put me forward for. You don't need any qualifcations to be a PA and I had a Degree and my Chartered status behind me.

But, I took the job as a PA, because I needed a job and any money was better than no money. After a month or so I was in a better position to know what was going on in the market, make a list of Companies to target and sent off my CV and covering letter. I was in an Assistant Company Secretary position by the end of the following week and haven't looked back since.

You can't just expect people to fall at your feet and give you a similar job to what you were doing in England when you don't have the 'Aussie' experience (they love that out here). You have to work your way back up.
nicolac34 is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 6:33 am
  #11  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 35
sjuice is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

"approval to migrate does not guarantee employment in Australia and
that it is entirely my own responsibility to secure employment after
arrival, including investigating my prospects before I arrive in
Australia"

I am pretty sure that you signed on this one aswell when lodging your visa application
sjuice is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 6:57 am
  #12  
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Bermudashorts's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 14,284
Bermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond reputeBermudashorts has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Originally Posted by nicolac34
You can't just expect people to fall at your feet and give you a similar job to what you were doing in England when you don't have the 'Aussie' experience (they love that out here). You have to work your way back up.
Well I wouldn't go this far. It is perfectly possible to go straight into a similar role without working your way back up. I did and I have the same qualification as the OP, albeit more years of experience.
Bermudashorts is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 7:23 am
  #13  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: Scarborough Beach, Perth
Posts: 243
JOE2010 is just really niceJOE2010 is just really niceJOE2010 is just really niceJOE2010 is just really niceJOE2010 is just really niceJOE2010 is just really niceJOE2010 is just really niceJOE2010 is just really nice
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Originally Posted by DCart78
Strange question, but does anyone know where I can lodge a complaint about my visa? Basically I was granted a Skilled Migration visa with state sponsorship, but when I arrived in Australia, nearly everyone I spoke to when looking for a job told me my skills were not recognised in Australia and hence I was deemed to be unskilled. Basically the only work I could find in my profession was at the bottom end which does not normally require any qualifications either in the UK or Australia.

As a result of this I have returned to the UK because I can get a job in my profession at a qualified level (which pays minimum 2x what the unqualified level jobs pay). I am very frustrated as the 8 months I spent in Sydney were a waste of my time and soured the 3 months I spent travelling round the country to the extent that I don't want to go back and now I am annoyed that I paid thousands to get a worthless visa in the first place

Rant over. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated
I came here as an ACCA, but had to take a step back and did the CA along the way. It is one thing to get the visa and another one to have an entitlement to a job. We recently recruited an Irish gal on a WHV as a Financial Analyst for six months - she used to work with PwC/Mining and is CA qualified - so with some good experience, PR and some bit of luck it should be easier.
JOE2010 is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 9:01 am
  #14  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 371
Mr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of lightMr Grumpy is a glorious beacon of light
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

This is ridiculous, there are highly qualified and experienced Australians who can't get jobs in Australia so who are they going to make a complaint to?
Mr Grumpy is offline  
Old Jul 31st 2012, 12:20 pm
  #15  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Kincumber, Central Coast
Posts: 277
pogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nicepogsy is just really nice
Default Re: Complaint about Australian Visa

Originally Posted by DCart78
Strange question, but does anyone know where I can lodge a complaint about my visa? Basically I was granted a Skilled Migration visa with state sponsorship, but when I arrived in Australia, nearly everyone I spoke to when looking for a job told me my skills were not recognised in Australia and hence I was deemed to be unskilled. Basically the only work I could find in my profession was at the bottom end which does not normally require any qualifications either in the UK or Australia.

As a result of this I have returned to the UK because I can get a job in my profession at a qualified level (which pays minimum 2x what the unqualified level jobs pay). I am very frustrated as the 8 months I spent in Sydney were a waste of my time and soured the 3 months I spent travelling round the country to the extent that I don't want to go back and now I am annoyed that I paid thousands to get a worthless visa in the first place

Rant over. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated
Cant give you any help but its typical of Federal Government here who oversee the visa and State Government who write the rules they want regarding qualifications and who can do what.
pogsy is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.