Coal - Queensland's future
#1
Coal - Queensland's future
It's good to see that the Qld government has not swallowed the global warming hysteria like KRudd and Co. has:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...25-601,00.html
Dig it up. Ship it out. Make money and build prosperity. Simple.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...25-601,00.html
Dig it up. Ship it out. Make money and build prosperity. Simple.
#2
Re: Coal - Queensland's future
Yeah simple.
Why stop there. If we can get a few bucks for it let's get on the blower and see if North Korea or Iran are interested in some Uranium while we're at it.
Why stop there. If we can get a few bucks for it let's get on the blower and see if North Korea or Iran are interested in some Uranium while we're at it.
#3
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Yeah, it is simple. It's prosperity for you, me and the other 21m. Without it, and all the other resources, we're stuffed. Something that KRudd, Swan, Garrett and co. need to remember - or be reminded.
Last edited by Amazulu; Jul 15th 2008 at 7:06 am.
#4
Re: Coal - Queensland's future
It's good to see that the Qld government has not swallowed the global warming hysteria like KRudd and Co. has:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...25-601,00.html
Dig it up. Ship it out. Make money and build prosperity. Simple.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...25-601,00.html
Dig it up. Ship it out. Make money and build prosperity. Simple.
Will be crying the loudest as the sea laps your front door?
#5
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The other section of the scientific community is saying that global warming is a natural event. Who's right? I don't claim to know either way - I don't have a science Phd.
Please explain how we will maintain our prosperity, our status as one of the richest countries in the world, our no.3 spot on the HDI etc if we don't exploit our natural resources.
#6
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It's been factually proven that temperatures are rising at their fastest for millions of years and I agree some of it will be natural, but you don't burn and pump as many things into the atmosphere as we do without having an effect.
"Please explain how we will maintain our prosperity, our status as one of the richest countries in the world, our no.3 spot on the HDI etc if we don't exploit our natural resources."
Well, with the amount of sun and wind that Oz gets, you could lead the way by developing renewable energy sources. It's not a transition that can be made overnight, but were a country to really push down that path it would have a 'silicon valley' effect.
I'm sure there would be no shortage of takers around the world.
PS I'm glad you live on a hill
"Please explain how we will maintain our prosperity, our status as one of the richest countries in the world, our no.3 spot on the HDI etc if we don't exploit our natural resources."
Well, with the amount of sun and wind that Oz gets, you could lead the way by developing renewable energy sources. It's not a transition that can be made overnight, but were a country to really push down that path it would have a 'silicon valley' effect.
I'm sure there would be no shortage of takers around the world.
PS I'm glad you live on a hill
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ok, in order to satisfy my curiosity and I`m impressed that an authority has joined the expats forums please can you answer me the following;
#10
Re: Coal - Queensland's future
I live on a hill.
The other section of the scientific community is saying that global warming is a natural event. Who's right? I don't claim to know either way - I don't have a science Phd.
Please explain how we will maintain our prosperity, our status as one of the richest countries in the world, our no.3 spot on the HDI etc if we don't exploit our natural resources.
The other section of the scientific community is saying that global warming is a natural event. Who's right? I don't claim to know either way - I don't have a science Phd.
Please explain how we will maintain our prosperity, our status as one of the richest countries in the world, our no.3 spot on the HDI etc if we don't exploit our natural resources.
#11
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How's it going Hard Yards, my South Australian Ocker (Bogan?) friend? Still hauling those boxes? Keep at it, it's the one thng you're an 'expert' in.
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Re: Coal - Queensland's future
Cut out the slanging match please.
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At the end of the day it doesn't really matter what Aus does. China's population is expanding at a rate equal to Australia's total population every 2 years. Any contribution Australia makes towards saving the planet will be like pissing into the (apparently rising) ocean.
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Re: Coal - Queensland's future
I don't want to get too involved, but I had to point out that it's fairly strange to 'factually prove' a 'theory'. By definition a theory is an idea that fills in the blanks between what is known and unknown and makes an educated guess.
I think Global warming is the most over-hyped thing ever. Yes we should be reducing emissions (though methane is far worse for the environment than carbon and we're all leaking it every day - not to mention from the compost heaps we are told to build), recycling etc... but I expect that this is what happens to the planet and it has been coming for millions fo years. We may accelerate things a fraction on the planets timescale, but we could never stop what is inevitable.
That's just my "factual theory"...
Also, getting gas from coal bed methane projects looks like it is about to take off in Australia. If successful, that could be the next big thing up Queensland way!!!
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Links:
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/200...GL026484.shtml
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/amsdrought.pdf
http://holocene.meteo.psu.edu/shared...sMannROG04.pdf
http://www.ipcc.ch/
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research...centre/future/
On some of those links you'll need to 'wander around' a bit to find extra info.
Of course this is science and scientists are known to hypothesis about certain facts. A lot of the papers and climate models are not 100% accurate and often differ (although this difference is becoming less and less), so they are open to being pulled apart. Being a scientist myself, I've done this with some of these papers and models, but when they are viewed as a whole, they just about all point in the same direction.
In answer to your other questions, I've already stated that I'm a scientist not an economist, so my answers will be purely slightly educated guesswork.
"Your views on realistic alternatives please in order of preference."
It depends on the environment of the country concerned. Australia has a huge amount of space and sun, perfect for developing solar power (which heats some pools and homes already) and also in certain areas is very suitable for wind farms.
Both forms of electricity generation are from maximum efficiency, so what better country to develop them further?
"Your views on Australia in terms of a world economy and its meagre efforts to educate its population on climate change."
I haven't spent enough time in Australia to say whether it's efforts have been meagre or not. Do you think they are?
I would love to make a reasonable stab at answering the economy part of your question in great detail, but I'm afraid I haven't got the knowledge to do this accurately.
"Again your views on carbon trading and its benefits and disadvantages."
Carbon trading is a bit of a cop out. The problem with todays world is that it is greed and money obsessed so it's probably the best we'll get until something happens that might change peoples minds.
"The impact of the USA and its reluctance to adopt the Kyoto recomendations in respect of Australia's and the southern pacifics economy."
In my opinion the USA should be leading the way in renewable energy research. It has the economy and the resources to do this. If it did, then the US wouldn't have to adopt an aggressive military stance towards oil bearing nations. I'll also refer you back to greed and money.
"What alternatives the world should be seeking (particularly in this trying time of high oil prices)"
Absolutely anything that is right for the conditions, as long as it is 'clean'.
"Your opinion on what else Australia can do to maintain its economy and stimulate growth in the face of a world wide credit crunch."
Can't answer this in enough detail due to reasons already mentioned.
"Your responses to this would be appreciated not only to expats, but to other experts in your field."
I've tried to answer your questions as best I can in the short amount of time I've got, but I assume with the amount of sarcasm in this sentence, you'll try and tear the rest of my post to pieces.