Close to tears

Old Oct 3rd 2002, 10:16 am
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Hello, can anyone help me please? Great site by the way, shame I didn't come across it couple of months ago before I got my knickers in a twist with information overload!

I'm applying for the Skilled Independent Visa, with my bloke, as a Sales & Marketing Manager (60 points), this takes me to 120 points so its essential I get the AIM to pass me at the right level of membership.

Before I submit my skills assessment can anyone recommend how I ensure I get this through. I'm 26, 5 years exp but not all at senior manager level but do have a post grad degree. How strict are they? Is it worth progressing with a 5 point margin?


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Old Oct 3rd 2002, 11:42 am
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Originally posted by nellie:
Hello, can anyone help me please? Great site by the way, shame I didn't come across it couple of months ago before I got my knickers in a twist with information overload!

I'm applying for the Skilled Independent Visa, with my bloke, as a Sales & Marketing Manager (60 points), this takes me to 120 points so its essential I get the AIM to pass me at the right level of membership.

Before I submit my skills assessment can anyone recommend how I ensure I get this through. I'm 26, 5 years exp but not all at senior manager level but do have a post grad degree. How strict are they? Is it worth progressing with a 5 point margin?


Thanks

N
Nellie,

My wife is a senior marketing manager with one of the big banks in the UK. She applied to AIM for a skills assessment and was rejected as a Sales and Marketing Manager. The reason given was the number of years that she had held a senior position. The years previous to this when she was not making policy decisions etc, were not allowable.

It seems that AIM have extremely tight criteria that they assess against. Her qualifications met the criteria, but the length of senior management experience wasn't enough.

Sorry if this isn't the answer you wanted, but it seems you may be in the same boat as my other half was. I would still apply. You never know unless you do. I hope that you are successful.

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Old Oct 3rd 2002, 1:14 pm
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AIM have very strict criteria and their definition of 'manager' is
quite different to the more usual understanding of the term.

I would get professional advice from an agent who's handled AIM
assessments before. I wouldn't necessarily apply just like that,
without knowing if that might cause problems for any future
application to AIM if they rejected you first time.

Jeremy


    >On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:42:31 +0000, karlos wrote:
    >Originally posted by nellie:
    >> I'm applying for the Skilled Independent Visa, with my bloke, as a
    >> Sales & Marketing Manager (60 points), this takes me to 120 points so
    >> its essential I get the AIM to pass me at the right level of
    >> membership.
    >> Before I submit my skills assessment can anyone recommend how I ensure
    >> I get this through. I'm 26, 5 years exp but not all at senior manager
    >> level but do have a post grad degree. How strict are they? Is it worth
    >> progressing with a 5 point margin?
    >> Thanks
    >> N
    >Nellie,
    >It seems that AIM have extremely tight criteria that they assess
    >against. Her qualifications met the criteria, but the length of senior
    >management experience wasn't enough.
    >Sorry if this isn't the answer you wanted, but it seems you may be in
    >the same boat as my other half was. I would still apply. You never know
    >unless you do. I hope that you are successful.
    >Karlos.
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Old Oct 3rd 2002, 6:02 pm
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Hi,

I applied via AIM fr Skills assessment. Originally it was rejected as I had insufficient experiece at the right level. I was given a 1 year concession for my qualification but needed 4 years at the senior level. I waited 2 years (stuck in the same job!) and reapplied and got a positive result. They are strict and I was advised this was the most difficult route however my patience paid off.

Their website lists the criteria required quite clearly. Senior means senior, with profit and loss acountability and managing other managers.

http://www.aim.com.au/migrationf.htm

Good luck
Mash...


[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by Jaj:
AIM have very strict criteria and their definition of 'manager' is
quite different to the more usual understanding of the term.

I would get professional advice from an agent who's handled AIM
assessments before. I wouldn't necessarily apply just like that,
without knowing if that might cause problems for any future
application to AIM if they rejected you first time.

Jeremy
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Old Oct 7th 2002, 12:05 pm
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Originally posted by karlos:


Nellie,

My wife is a senior marketing manager with one of the big banks in the UK. She applied to AIM for a skills assessment and was rejected as a Sales and Marketing Manager. The reason given was the number of years that she had held a senior position. The years previous to this when she was not making policy decisions etc, were not allowable.

It seems that AIM have extremely tight criteria that they assess against. Her qualifications met the criteria, but the length of senior management experience wasn't enough.

Sorry if this isn't the answer you wanted, but it seems you may be in the same boat as my other half was. I would still apply. You never know unless you do. I hope that you are successful.

Karlos.
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Old Oct 7th 2002, 12:10 pm
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[QUOTE][SIZE=1]Originally posted by karlos:


Karlos

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The site keeps crashing my PC! Just want to say thanks for your response.

Reckon my only option is to stretch the truth a bit!

Wishing you and your wife luck with your app

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 12:13 pm
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J

Thanks for your reply. Will check if the Oz fund stretches to more professional help! Was disappointed with one I'd paid £75 to for an initial assessment (they were misleading). Know any reasonable ones in the UK?

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Old Oct 7th 2002, 12:34 pm
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Hi Nellie,

If you're in the market for an agent, I can highly recommend George Lombard.

He provides a lot of free advice on this site, along with Alan Collett, and I'm sure, if you're after references, then others on this forum can oblidge.

He's based in Oz but don't let that put you off. With email and telephone it really doesn't matter where they are. So far he's been affordable and very thorough.

Hope this helps and good luck

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Old Oct 8th 2002, 12:29 pm
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Hi,

Have you thought about bypassing the independent route and looking for a
specialist employment agency who may be able to arrange a sponsorship
package for you?

Siobhan

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    > Originally posted by karlos:
    > >
    > >
    > > Nellie,
    > >
    > > My wife is a senior marketing manager with one of the big banks in the
    > > UK. She applied to AIM for a skills assessment and was rejected as a
    > > Sales and Marketing Manager. The reason given was the number of years
    > > that she had held a senior position. The years previous to this when
    > > she was not making policy decisions etc, were not allowable.
    > >
    > > It seems that AIM have extremely tight criteria that they assess
    > > against. Her qualifications met the criteria, but the length of senior
    > > management experience wasn't enough.
    > >
    > > Sorry if this isn't the answer you wanted, but it seems you may be in
    > > the same boat as my other half was. I would still apply. You never
    > > know unless you do. I hope that you are successful.
    > >
    > Karlos.
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Old Oct 8th 2002, 10:39 pm
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I've also heard good things about Ian Harrop, if you want someone UK
based, although I've not dealt with him personally.

Jeremy


    >On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:34:05 +0000, pete2002 wrote:
    >Hi Nellie,
    >If you're in the market for an agent, I can highly recommend
    >George Lombard.
    >He provides a lot of free advice on this site, along with Alan
    >Collett, and I'm sure, if you're after references, then others on this
    >forum can oblidge.
    >He's based in Oz but don't let that put you off. With email and
    >telephone it really doesn't matter where they are. So far he's been
    >affordable and very thorough.
    >Hope this helps and good luck
    >Pete
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