class differences
Aug 4th 2006, 2:20 pm
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class differences
Has anyone ever noticed how class differences are really noticeable and talked about in England?
I don't mean house, car, neighbourhood wise. I mean, people saying things like 'that person is so common' and ' that person sounds common' or ' she is a sun reader' etc.
I have really noticed that people in London are always boxing people into these catagories. For expample someone just posted his thoughts on Australia 18 months on and he just mentioned having a pool or something and people started to think he was arrogant?! A lot of Australians have pools... it's not a status thing...
I have never really noticed people in Australia putting others into class statuses... everyone is very much the same. Everyone reads the same newspapers and no one really SOUNDS poor/common. They can sound bogan but it doesn't mean they live in crap area or house.
I don't mean house, car, neighbourhood wise. I mean, people saying things like 'that person is so common' and ' that person sounds common' or ' she is a sun reader' etc.
I have really noticed that people in London are always boxing people into these catagories. For expample someone just posted his thoughts on Australia 18 months on and he just mentioned having a pool or something and people started to think he was arrogant?! A lot of Australians have pools... it's not a status thing...
I have never really noticed people in Australia putting others into class statuses... everyone is very much the same. Everyone reads the same newspapers and no one really SOUNDS poor/common. They can sound bogan but it doesn't mean they live in crap area or house.
Aug 4th 2006, 2:24 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by whoever
Has anyone ever noticed how class differences are really noticeable and talked about in England?
I don't mean house, car, neighbourhood wise. I mean, people saying things like 'that person is so common' and ' that person sounds common' or ' she is a sun reader' etc.
I have really noticed that people in London are always boxing people into these catagories. For expample someone just posted his thoughts on Australia 18 months on and he just mentioned having a pool or something and people started to think he was arrogant?! A lot of Australians have pools... it's not a status thing...
I have never really noticed people in Australia putting others into class statuses... everyone is very much the same. Everyone reads the same newspapers and no one really SOUNDS poor/common. They can sound bogan but it doesn't mean they live in crap area or house.
I don't mean house, car, neighbourhood wise. I mean, people saying things like 'that person is so common' and ' that person sounds common' or ' she is a sun reader' etc.
I have really noticed that people in London are always boxing people into these catagories. For expample someone just posted his thoughts on Australia 18 months on and he just mentioned having a pool or something and people started to think he was arrogant?! A lot of Australians have pools... it's not a status thing...
I have never really noticed people in Australia putting others into class statuses... everyone is very much the same. Everyone reads the same newspapers and no one really SOUNDS poor/common. They can sound bogan but it doesn't mean they live in crap area or house.
they always have the better model or make of whatever you have and more than eager to let you know about it
Aug 4th 2006, 2:27 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by steve`o
its the one upmanship that pisses me off
they always have the better model or make of whatever you have and more than eager to let you know about it
they always have the better model or make of whatever you have and more than eager to let you know about it
Yea, I guess we do do that a lot.
Aug 4th 2006, 2:40 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by whoever
I have never really noticed people in Australia putting others into class statuses... everyone is very much the same.
There are haves and have nots here but it is not a class thing.
Much to do with youth of the country I guess.
Europeans had hundreds of years to develope their kings, queens, dukes, lords, ladies etc. whereas Aus has not had enough time to form the refinements of a class society. Hopefully never will.
Aug 4th 2006, 2:47 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by Bix
I would agree.
There are haves and have nots here but it is not a class thing.
Much to do with youth of the country I guess.
Europeans had hundreds of years to develope their kings, queens, dukes, lords, ladies etc. whereas Aus has not had enough time to form the refinements of a class society. Hopefully never will.
There are haves and have nots here but it is not a class thing.
Much to do with youth of the country I guess.
Europeans had hundreds of years to develope their kings, queens, dukes, lords, ladies etc. whereas Aus has not had enough time to form the refinements of a class society. Hopefully never will.
Yea I agree Bix. It makes me mad when I hear someone at work go ' oh he sounds so posh' ... I feel like saying ' so what??? ' . Honestly, who cares if someone sounds posh, it doesn't mean anything.
I usually just say ' oh, I don't know what posh sounds like... sorry '.
Because well... I dont.
Aug 4th 2006, 2:54 pm
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Re: class differences
That's one thing that really got my goat.
The way people would "talk up" in the presence of a well spoken person.
Life is about communication so as long as the person understands you why bother to put on airs and graces ?
I change the way I speak sometimes but it's not to indulge........purely so the other person doesn't have to spend ages decyphering my Cornish accent.
The way people would "talk up" in the presence of a well spoken person.
Life is about communication so as long as the person understands you why bother to put on airs and graces ?
I change the way I speak sometimes but it's not to indulge........purely so the other person doesn't have to spend ages decyphering my Cornish accent.
Aug 4th 2006, 2:59 pm
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Re: class differences
Well,Im a posh bird at all accents 
Aug 4th 2006, 3:03 pm
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Re: class differences
I'll talk particularly slowly to you then.
Aug 4th 2006, 3:04 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by Bix
That's one thing that really got my goat.
The way people would "talk up" in the presence of a well spoken person.
Life is about communication so as long as the person understands you why bother to put on airs and graces ?
I change the way I speak sometimes but it's not to indulge........purely so the other person doesn't have to spend ages decyphering my Cornish accent.
The way people would "talk up" in the presence of a well spoken person.
Life is about communication so as long as the person understands you why bother to put on airs and graces ?
I change the way I speak sometimes but it's not to indulge........purely so the other person doesn't have to spend ages decyphering my Cornish accent.
I would love to hear your accent Bix
Having moved around alot with hubby in the army i lost my true northern twang. Yet when we came back to the North East, i thought i still sounded normal. Not according to all the locals i sound posh
. God knows how cos i was brought up in a council estate and dont really mix with any socialites 
My hubby asked about becoming an officer in the army and was categorically told no simply cos he has a 'diluted northern accent' . When he is mixing with officers he does talk clearer then he would with some one of a lower rank, but that is only because it is expected. The army is most definatly high in the type of class you are
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Aug 4th 2006, 3:04 pm
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Re: class differences
Haha!
yea, at work, if someone needs to speak infront of a large group I notice some change their accent so they sound (what they think is) posh.
It's totally beyond me... to me they put on a voice that doesn't sound posh, but rather it sounds like they're constipated.
Bring on the lovely Northern accents and all the others that are apparently un-desirable. This is what I expected of England, awesome accents that take you back in time. Not some man with a poppycock voice that makes him sound like a mummy's boy!
yea, at work, if someone needs to speak infront of a large group I notice some change their accent so they sound (what they think is) posh.
It's totally beyond me... to me they put on a voice that doesn't sound posh, but rather it sounds like they're constipated.
Bring on the lovely Northern accents and all the others that are apparently un-desirable. This is what I expected of England, awesome accents that take you back in time. Not some man with a poppycock voice that makes him sound like a mummy's boy!
Aug 4th 2006, 3:07 pm
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Re: class differences
I wonder if I will start saying "me ansome" with an Aussie twang ?
Aug 4th 2006, 3:09 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by Bix
I wonder if I will start saying "me ansome" with an Aussie twang ?
If i ever get up your way i will have to look you up just to hear a cornish guy with an aussie twang
Mandy
Aug 4th 2006, 3:15 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by geordie mandy
If i ever get up your way i will have to look you up just to hear a cornish guy with an aussie twang
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Actually that's unlikely cos da missus and me lads take the piss outta me for the way my accent has regressed since being here.
Around less English folk I say.
Aug 4th 2006, 3:21 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by Bix
I'll talk particularly slowly to you then.
Aug 4th 2006, 3:26 pm
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Re: class differences
Originally Posted by Bix
I may have lost my accent by then
Actually that's unlikely cos da missus and me lads take the piss outta me for the way my accent has regressed since being here.
Around less English folk I say.
Actually that's unlikely cos da missus and me lads take the piss outta me for the way my accent has regressed since being here.
Around less English folk I say.
HaHa
Ive never been as far south as Cornwall before. But i did mange Torquay as a teenager and loved the way the local talked, kinda sexy
to an impressionable 16 year old it was any way.The only accent i can not understand is the scouse one (sorry scousers)
They talk to fast for me.
Mandy