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I know there not good for you and all that.But are they much cheaper in oz than the u.k and is smoking really frowned upon
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I know there not good for you and all that.But are they much cheaper in oz than the u.k and is smoking really frowned upon
Hi Wayne,

I think compared to an Australian salary cigarettes are more expensive over here. Plenty of people smoke but you are not allowed; to smoke in any place that serves food; at tram shelters, bus stops and train stations (well in Victoria anyway); and is treated in the same way as the UK in the workplace (ie you have to go out and smoke).

smoking is treated as bad news here.

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I gave up smoking about 8 weeks ago but i have to say you do feel like a complete leper if you smoke in australia. Which in some ways is good because when you give up it's easier because there's so few places you can smoke when you go out.

Not that it's really acceptable anywhere it just seems more the norm in the UK.

and cigarettes are just as expensive here.
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Hi Wayne,

I think compared to an Australian salary cigarettes are more expensive over here. Plenty of people smoke but you are not allowed; to smoke in any place that serves food; at tram shelters, bus stops and train stations (well in Victoria anyway); and is treated in the same way as the UK in the workplace (ie you have to go out and smoke).

smoking is treated as bad news here.

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Originally Posted by BKate
I gave up smoking about 8 weeks ago but i have to say you do feel like a complete leper if you smoke in australia. Which in some ways is good because when you give up it's easier because there's so few places you can smoke when you go out.

Not that it's really acceptable anywhere it just seems more the norm in the UK.

and cigarettes are just as expensive here.
looks like its nearly time to give up then :scared:
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I don't know if it's a matter of perception, but I get the impression that more people smoke in Oz than the UK: anyone know the figures? (Like ABCD<g>)
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I know there not good for you and all that.But are they much cheaper in oz than the u.k and is smoking really frowned upon
Prices vary according to which state you live in and where you go to buy them. In WA a pack of 25's around $10 or 4 pounds.

Anti-smoking lobby has been quite active here but about 25% of adults still puff away
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According to ASH

About 12 million adults in the UK smoke cigarettes - 28% of men and 24% of women.

http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets/html/basic01.html
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Originally Posted by BKate
I gave up smoking about 8 weeks ago but i have to say you do feel like a complete leper if you smoke in australia. Which in some ways is good because when you give up it's easier because there's so few places you can smoke when you go out.

Not that it's really acceptable anywhere it just seems more the norm in the UK.
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Originally Posted by BKate
According to ASH

About 12 million adults in the UK smoke cigarettes - 28% of men and 24% of women.

http://www.ash.org.uk/html/factsheets/html/basic01.html
Compared to the Australian statistics:
  • 21.1% of Australian adults are regular smokers (within the past week), including 23.1% of males & 19.3% of females.

    26.2% of Australians are ex-smokers.

Source.

These figures define a "smoker" as anyone who's had a cigarette within the last week - which is pretty strict, but probably a more accurate method than the government uses.

I must say that when I first came to the UK just over 2 years ago, I was astonished to find that there was no prohibition against smoking in cafes and restaurants. Some places don't even have a designated "non-smoking" area.

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Originally Posted by kiwichild
Anti-smoking lobby has been quite active here but about 25% of adults still puff away
Is that 25% figure for Western Australia only? It still seems a bit high, considering that the national average of 21% (see my previous post.) I'd be interested to know where you're getting it from.

Current trends in Australia indicate that smoking could potentially be eradicated within the next few decades, according to a study by Curtin University - as reported in The Guardian last year:

The study coincides with figures that show Australia has the lowest smoking rate of any industrialised country, and possibly the lowest in the world.

Smoking rates in Australia for those aged 15 and over have fallen from more than 70% some 60 years ago to 17.4% last year, according to the Australian Institute of Health. Graphic anti-smoking ads and tough bans on tobacco advertising and smoking in public places have helped drive down Australia's smoking rate.

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Professor Mike Daube of the health policy division at Curtin University believes the smoking epidemic will end in Australia by 2030, based on the latest figures, and trends for the past 22 years.

"We're reaching the end of the epidemic and can now predict with some certainty that smoking in Australia will be virtually extinct within the next 25 years," Prof Daube said.

"What we can safely say on the basis of trends since 1983, is if those trends continue then smoking in Australia will be down to zero in 25 years - 2030.
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Looks like the figures from my previous post are a trifle out of date. Still, I'm not complaining.

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We went to Melbourne last year and felt very excluded as smokers. We stood outside in the rain and in small plastic *booths* in restraunts like naughty kids!
I think this was a good thing as I returned and have been a non smoker for 6 months!
We smoked B&H 25's at $10 a packet. When there is 2 of you it does add up :scared:
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Originally Posted by wayne01
I know there not good for you and all that.But are they much cheaper in oz than the u.k and is smoking really frowned upon
X smoker myself, but the people at work seem to smoke more than the people in the UK I put this down to the fact that they have packs of 50's here
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[QUOTE=Vash the Stampede]Is that 25% figure for Western Australia only? It still seems a bit high, considering that the national average of 21% (see my previous post.) I'd be interested to know where you're getting it from.

It was in the media recently. It seems more young women and teens (18 is classified as an adult) are taking the habit up. Appears to be a nationwide trend not limited to WA.

Due to this there has been a push by ASH to get the fed govt to introduce graphic pics on packets of diseased organs in an attempt to bring it down again. In WA pubs will soon be smokefree (2007 I think)
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Originally Posted by kiwichild
It was in the media recently. It seems more young women and teens (18 is classified as an adult) are taking the habit up. Appears to be a nationwide trend not limited to WA.

Due to this there has been a push by ASH to get the fed govt to introduce graphic pics on packets of diseased organs in an attempt to bring it down again. In WA pubs will soon be smokefree (2007 I think)
I saw a pretty graphic poster in Fremantle recently on a billboard up by the station. Can't remember exactly what it depicted, but I remember thinking that they were packing a good punch with it. It was a diseased organ of some sort.
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