changing minds
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changing minds
Hi all could you tell me why all of a sudden everyone seems to be changing their minds and are having second thoughts about moving to australia one minute everyone is excited and then they dont want to go,why is that? Debbie
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Re: changing minds
Originally posted by drollins
Hi all could you tell me why all of a sudden everyone seems to be changing their minds and are having second thoughts about moving to australia one minute everyone is excited and then they dont want to go,why is that? Debbie
Hi all could you tell me why all of a sudden everyone seems to be changing their minds and are having second thoughts about moving to australia one minute everyone is excited and then they dont want to go,why is that? Debbie
Might have something to do with all the Wa*kers that have infiltrated this site with their crap
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Re: changing minds
Originally posted by John Howard
Might have something to do with all the Wa*kers that have infiltrated this site with their crap
Might have something to do with all the Wa*kers that have infiltrated this site with their crap
I think you might be right.
Tony C
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Might have something to do with all the Wa*kers that have infiltrated this site with their crap
#6
And...........?
Originally posted by karawara88
Maybe some of us have taken on board what they post and researched things a little more deeply.
Maybe some of us have taken on board what they post and researched things a little more deeply.
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This site is a useful site, but with certain posts it can throw doubts in your mind. At the end of the day I'm totally committed to going, and will be doing on 15th August - eyes wide open !!
People who criticise others as being dreamers seem to forget that's why they are there - years ago they had a dream, and they fulfilled it, and because it hasn't gone according to plan they dream of returning to wherever they came from.
I hope that people changing their mind is not brought about by this forum. People have their own ideals and experiences, but that shouldn't influence what's inside your own heart and head. You have to experience it for yourself.
When the sweet shops full of Crunchies, wheres the fun in Crunchies ?
People who criticise others as being dreamers seem to forget that's why they are there - years ago they had a dream, and they fulfilled it, and because it hasn't gone according to plan they dream of returning to wherever they came from.
I hope that people changing their mind is not brought about by this forum. People have their own ideals and experiences, but that shouldn't influence what's inside your own heart and head. You have to experience it for yourself.
When the sweet shops full of Crunchies, wheres the fun in Crunchies ?
#8
Karawara 88, I do take on board what they say and respect most opinions as they are there already and as for research I couldn't be more organised. But you do what you feel is best for you and family whatever you do I hope you make the right choice.
Don't forget if say one of my friends came on here who is a Ozzy and said life is great. He would possibly get shot down for being an optimist.
Carrianne
Don't forget if say one of my friends came on here who is a Ozzy and said life is great. He would possibly get shot down for being an optimist.
Carrianne
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Carrianne,
I think its a combination of so many things going wrong at the same time. Tend to start looking at all the wrong reasons for going and not the positive.
Maybe I just need to de-stress and have a good sleep. !!
I think its a combination of so many things going wrong at the same time. Tend to start looking at all the wrong reasons for going and not the positive.
Maybe I just need to de-stress and have a good sleep. !!
#10
Have a nice looooonnng bath and chilllll.
and another thing try not to think too much I get told off for that
Hope you feel ok soon
and another thing try not to think too much I get told off for that
Hope you feel ok soon
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Originally posted by karawara88
Maybe some of us have taken on board what they post and researched things a little more deeply.
Maybe some of us have taken on board what they post and researched things a little more deeply.
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Thanks everyone for your imput,i too have done a lot of research into oz and i believe life is what you make it whereever you live and at least i can say i went and gave it my all.if things dont work out for whatever reason your life experience will be richer in the knowledge that you spent the time trying to improve things for your family good luck to all of you with your dreams of a better life.Debbie
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After reading some of the comments here, it's not hard to understand why some of you are having second thoughts about leaving all that's safe and familiar. Here's something you might consider....exchange your home in the U.K. for 6mths to a year with an Aussie who want to experience Britain. There's several websites to browse that offer just such exchanges...Holi-Swaps & Vacations is one such site, and there's plenty of Aussies who are eager to exchange their big homes with your smaller Brit. house or apartment.
Must admit that we too were quite gung-ho about moving downunder...particularly as our oldest son lives in Queensland, and loves his life there.
Our son is single, and has always been an adventurer...his life would make an interesting story, perhaps the secret is in the way that he approaches everything as an adventure. Anyway, he has the knack of seeing the positives in most situations, and lives his life with great enthusiasm.
We are just going to put our decision on 'hold' for the time being... go out there for a month, and weigh things up.
I'm not sure what the motives are, of the posters who send negative messages.
Perhaps because of their own painful experiences, they are genuine in their concern for would-be emigrants, and are forcing us to question ourselves about our present day lives.
So... this has been a bit of a wake-up call for us, and looking around we realize that we have it darn good, here in Canada.
In any case we'll soon know one way or the other if Oz is for us, bought our RETURN tickets yesterday, and will be winging our way to Queensland next month.
I'll give you my unbiased opinions when I return. In any case this is a very useful forum for information and exchange of opinions..so you're all very fortunate to be living in such times....oops I said something positive.
Must admit that we too were quite gung-ho about moving downunder...particularly as our oldest son lives in Queensland, and loves his life there.
Our son is single, and has always been an adventurer...his life would make an interesting story, perhaps the secret is in the way that he approaches everything as an adventure. Anyway, he has the knack of seeing the positives in most situations, and lives his life with great enthusiasm.
We are just going to put our decision on 'hold' for the time being... go out there for a month, and weigh things up.
I'm not sure what the motives are, of the posters who send negative messages.
Perhaps because of their own painful experiences, they are genuine in their concern for would-be emigrants, and are forcing us to question ourselves about our present day lives.
So... this has been a bit of a wake-up call for us, and looking around we realize that we have it darn good, here in Canada.
In any case we'll soon know one way or the other if Oz is for us, bought our RETURN tickets yesterday, and will be winging our way to Queensland next month.
I'll give you my unbiased opinions when I return. In any case this is a very useful forum for information and exchange of opinions..so you're all very fortunate to be living in such times....oops I said something positive.
#14
Re: changing minds
It’s a tough decision to leave your home and start again in a far away place. I suppose I’m fortunate (or unfortunate) in that I fell in love (ah nicey) with an Australian girl who was in the UK. After 5 years here it’s time to settle down and start the family.
I’m lucky in that I’ve travelled extensively throughout the world and have been to Sydney four times already. In many, many ways it’s London with sun, rain, humidity and a great harbour view but knowing this I’m up for it.
My key thoughts to everybody looking to make the move would be.
1. Understand why you are doing this. What is your motivation? At times of doubt review your reasons for going. If it reinforces your plan great! If not don’t go.
2. Don’t expect the run away from problems they’ll follow you! Sort them out before you go.
3. Visit the bloody place! If it’s going to be your new home make sure you know what it’s like! Would you move from Leeds to Bristol without visiting? I don’t think so! I have been to Sydney 4 times and it was only the last time I felt sure about what I’m doing.
4. Research everything and research it again. Ask questions of people who know what they are talking about. A £5.00 phone card will buy you a good few hours of conversation with Australia. Invest in your future.
5. Make sure you tell friends and family early in the process so that they can be with you through the ups and downs. That way they will feel as pleased as you when the visa finally comes through. Also will be able to help when you’re clearing the house.
6. Unless you’re lucky you will have to work. Research the job market for your chosen field or profession. If you want to retrain look into getting some help/experience in the UK you leave! I’m thinking of Mr Pool cleaner here from that BBC2 Show! I had 5 interviews with agencies when I was last in Australia. I know what my chances are of getting a job (ok ish!) I know what employers think about Poms taking Aussie jobs. I know about the need for contacts and net working. Part time/temp work will show you’re willing and could lead to better things.
7. Talk with your partner always about everything. Share the gain and the pain.
If you do the above at least you will feel more comfortable with your decision. Then if it does not work out at least when you’re stuck in an old people’s home at 85 with no teeth or bladder control you can say I tried rather than if only.
Finally, remember that the Internet is un regulated and unpoliced (to a degree). People can say what they want and be who they want on this site. If you don’t like what they say block it. If you do like what they say ask your self why? Does it reinforce your views and opinions or does it cover doubts, be suspicious. PB and friends for all their failings have tried and it didn’t work out, so they say. However PB has been in that hellhole down under for nine years can’t be all bad can it? Also you know what the UK is like today!
Above all have fun we’re along time dead!
Dinky
P.S. Now if only that bloody dollar would drop to $2.80 I’d be delighted!!!
I’m lucky in that I’ve travelled extensively throughout the world and have been to Sydney four times already. In many, many ways it’s London with sun, rain, humidity and a great harbour view but knowing this I’m up for it.
My key thoughts to everybody looking to make the move would be.
1. Understand why you are doing this. What is your motivation? At times of doubt review your reasons for going. If it reinforces your plan great! If not don’t go.
2. Don’t expect the run away from problems they’ll follow you! Sort them out before you go.
3. Visit the bloody place! If it’s going to be your new home make sure you know what it’s like! Would you move from Leeds to Bristol without visiting? I don’t think so! I have been to Sydney 4 times and it was only the last time I felt sure about what I’m doing.
4. Research everything and research it again. Ask questions of people who know what they are talking about. A £5.00 phone card will buy you a good few hours of conversation with Australia. Invest in your future.
5. Make sure you tell friends and family early in the process so that they can be with you through the ups and downs. That way they will feel as pleased as you when the visa finally comes through. Also will be able to help when you’re clearing the house.
6. Unless you’re lucky you will have to work. Research the job market for your chosen field or profession. If you want to retrain look into getting some help/experience in the UK you leave! I’m thinking of Mr Pool cleaner here from that BBC2 Show! I had 5 interviews with agencies when I was last in Australia. I know what my chances are of getting a job (ok ish!) I know what employers think about Poms taking Aussie jobs. I know about the need for contacts and net working. Part time/temp work will show you’re willing and could lead to better things.
7. Talk with your partner always about everything. Share the gain and the pain.
If you do the above at least you will feel more comfortable with your decision. Then if it does not work out at least when you’re stuck in an old people’s home at 85 with no teeth or bladder control you can say I tried rather than if only.
Finally, remember that the Internet is un regulated and unpoliced (to a degree). People can say what they want and be who they want on this site. If you don’t like what they say block it. If you do like what they say ask your self why? Does it reinforce your views and opinions or does it cover doubts, be suspicious. PB and friends for all their failings have tried and it didn’t work out, so they say. However PB has been in that hellhole down under for nine years can’t be all bad can it? Also you know what the UK is like today!
Above all have fun we’re along time dead!
Dinky
P.S. Now if only that bloody dollar would drop to $2.80 I’d be delighted!!!
#15
it's a matter of perspective
if you are sitting in your front room looking out of the window at a cold miserable wet windy bleak november day -australia seems naturally more inviting
if however you are sitting in your garden with a few friend having a barbie and your mum pops over then australia seems a tad unnecessary
*as an aside-
i feel programes like 'a place in the sun' is the new pornography
watching people do what you wished you were up to doing -if you only had the nerve
-or as pb would say 'daydreamers'*
also when the visas arrive (and they are coming in thick 'n' fast here at the moment) the excitement and anticipation pails and reality sets in.....
cheers
richard
if you are sitting in your front room looking out of the window at a cold miserable wet windy bleak november day -australia seems naturally more inviting
if however you are sitting in your garden with a few friend having a barbie and your mum pops over then australia seems a tad unnecessary
*as an aside-
i feel programes like 'a place in the sun' is the new pornography
watching people do what you wished you were up to doing -if you only had the nerve
-or as pb would say 'daydreamers'*
also when the visas arrive (and they are coming in thick 'n' fast here at the moment) the excitement and anticipation pails and reality sets in.....
cheers
richard