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Old Jul 11th 2004, 9:49 am
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Originally posted by Pollyana
Fair comment Chippy, but remember although I had been here and dealt with stuff like banking and post offices and supermarkets, I had never been here and worked. Thats the difference.
A very big one it is too. Keep them chins up girl, you know where we are
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Old Jul 11th 2004, 10:23 am
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Since I've been working here [about 6 months] I've only encountered a couple of really nasty anti pom attitudes 1st was from a chippy on a job who appeared to hate everyone full stop usual comments were the same as the building site banter but malicious and said with real spite. We nearly came to blows one tea break and now get on well enough to work around each other.
2nd was at the shop where I used to buy tile glue and grout, I had to wait until all the other customers had been served despite being first in the cue. Usual comment bloody poms taking our jobs etc. I buy from another supplier now, their loss not mine:lecture:

Most of the time you get friendly banter just like on a U.K building site and if your a tradesperson you should be used to that. Especially all you bloody rough chippies
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Old Jul 11th 2004, 12:43 pm
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Originally posted by cresta57
Since I've been working here [about 6 months] I've only encountered a couple of really nasty anti pom attitudes 1st was from a chippy on a job who appeared to hate everyone full stop usual comments were the same as the building site banter but malicious and said with real spite. We nearly came to blows one tea break and now get on well enough to work around each other.
2nd was at the shop where I used to buy tile glue and grout, I had to wait until all the other customers had been served despite being first in the cue. Usual comment bloody poms taking our jobs etc. I buy from another supplier now, their loss not mine:lecture:

Most of the time you get friendly banter just like on a U.K building site and if your a tradesperson you should be used to that. Especially all you bloody rough chippies
Do a bit of sweeping for me for a few months, and I might show you the ropes. There's a good little cresta.....
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Old Jul 11th 2004, 12:47 pm
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Originally posted by chippy
Do a bit of sweeping for me for a few months, and I might show you the ropes. There's a good little cresta.....
I'd have to do your sweeping mate, you bloody chippies don't know what a brooms for
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Old Jul 11th 2004, 1:09 pm
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I'd have to do your sweeping mate, you bloody chippies don't know what a brooms for
But we do know what a level is for eh, eh??
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Old Jul 11th 2004, 5:03 pm
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Originally posted by Pollyana
Fair comment Chippy, but remember although I had been here and dealt with stuff like banking and post offices and supermarkets, I had never been here and worked. Thats the difference.
I've never encountered "anti-Pom comments" except for this office (and that includes my job at Aus Post, no such attitude there). I knew that I would have to start lower down, because most of my position in the UK was dependent on a very specialist skill that I wouldn't be able to use here. However I did expect to get treated as if I had half a brain and could do a good job without being rubbished all the time.
I don't think you can appreciate what living in a country is like until you have done it - although you can get pointers beforehand, and the same applies for working- until you are in the workplace you can't know what it will be like. And of course other people will have a different experience. I know one mate on this site who has landed a really good job, very quickly, and is enjoying it. Each experience will be individual, some good, some bad.

The only time I came across the Anti Pom was further up north, had in Queensland and also NT. I sometimes had complete strangers ask me what my accent was and when I said it was English told me to F off back to UK. I also had a boss who was very anti Brit and he also made me feel like a prize idiot until i found out he was gay and wanted it to kept a secret and became nicer to me. It is hard not to take Anti pom comments to heart when you are in a different country, town and not have your old circle of friends to give you a big hug and reasurrance. It can be a lonely walk.

I only got the negativity from "white" Australians and one day I was talking to a guy who was a Management consultant who dealt also in stress managment who was British, but had lived in Oz for 30 odd years. He told me it was much harder years ago but he asked me where did the person assend from ie Irish, Scotish etc. Sometime those who came from the various sectors of Uk, ie, Scottish, English, Welsh, Irish and the problems against each other also landed in Oz. A number of Irish priests used to teach the children not to like the English and when I married my husband who was Scottish, his mother hated the English. So those problems can also be related A couple of Australian friends also told me that at school they were often taught to hate us, they would be in their mid 30's now. I never experienced the problem with Italian, Greek, Chinese, Japanese etc etc Australian, but those who had ascended from the UK. With this understanding it made it easier for me not to take it personally. But also it made me realise how immigrants who came to the UK must also feel being judged purely on their colour, culture etc.

Life is too short Poll, if you have some good admin/secretarial skills why don't you go solo. There will be a number of small businesses who can't afford to have a full time admin etc and you may find you could work for a number of business instead of one. A number of women have set up their own businesses and there are quite a few business networking for just women as well as both genders.. Might open a few doors.

The last boss who was a bastard the day I left I told him he should send his staff to medical school. When he replied why, I said well if they have to with an arsehole they may as well become doctors. I now run my own successful business. Best thing I did.
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Old Jul 11th 2004, 8:13 pm
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hello all, i have read all the posts on this subject and i can't help thinking that after making the decision to give up everything in the uk (i am now on about me personally)and it has been a very difficult one,i'm f_ _ _ _d if i'm going to let some twat try and get me down by treating me like shit.no doubt it will piss me off and wind me up but after all the things you have to go through to get to australia are you really going top let something like that make you come back .i agree with shovelling shit if it enables me to survive and no i don't care how far back down the ladder that puts me,so what if someone is acting like a prick,you know how good you are,why worry about having to prove anything to anyone else,just treat it like a game,put up with the shit,get paid ,go back to your new home with your loved ones in the country you wanted to move to and look at it as a means of keeping you there.people in the uk get treated like shit everyday,the only difference is they're still stuck here.when required i used to hire agency labour,my boss told me as soon as the chargeable work was finished just to get rid of them,some of these blokes had young kids etc and i used to find them as much other work as i could,they were not treated any differentley than in australia.how many of you have left the uk because of lack of jobs and the influx of immigrants,how many of you have heard other people say "they should send them back",well how can you be surprised if you get a few comments like that yourself.
come on,next time you get some shit just think"f_ _k em and remember that you are out there because you wanted to go,if it really is too bad there are 2 things you can do, come back home or get yourself in the correct state of mind not to let it drag you down.next time you feel down come here and the rest of us can try and cheer you up.
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Old Jul 11th 2004, 8:29 pm
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Originally posted by Pollyana
What HiddenPaw says is very true. You have to be prepared that the chances are you will be lower down in your field than you were in the UK. I had a very specialist skill and a very respected job, I knew I wouldn't get work using that, but I've also got strong admin skills as well, and have been using them for the last twenty years, mixing with senior police officers and getting a lot of respect from them. Now I have the boss throwing work at me - and he really does throw it - with a very superior air making comments like " type it in Australian not some foreign language" and his new sidekick yesterday asked if I had ever used a holepunch before and did I know how to file alphabetically. One girl there makes a point of speaking very slowly to me, as if I wouldn't be able to understand my mother tongue.
I also have the sick pay situation - 8 days allowed in the first year, building up a few hours a month. After that its unpaid. Holiday builds up too, I now have an entitlement to 72 hours, but am not allowed to take it for several months yet. But as my boss said "you can't afford to go to England, so I don't suppose you'll want any time off anyway"..........

Don't get me wrong, its a job, it almost pays the rent, and its better than no job at all. I do get by because I have a strong survival instinct in there somewhere, and because I knew all along it wouldn't be easy. I don't have the option to move back to the UK, I have to stick it out, but it is very demoralising, for me and for my long-suffering other half.
Hi Polly, sorry to hear the boss and his sidekick are feeling threatened by you and feel they need to make you look stupid, and the girl who speaks slowly to you let her finish and then say sorry could you repeat what you said a bit quicker this time as I didn't quite catch what you said, it will iritate her to death. When I have had bosses who have nit picked at everything I imagine them as something that I find funny or them naked it gives you a little smile and doesnt let them get the better of you and I have always had the last laugh when I have moved onto bigger and better things. When you find that better job make sure you throw your resignation letter at your boss.

Keep smiling and keeping thinking funny thoughts

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Old Jul 11th 2004, 10:34 pm
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Why are people always getting so wound up by Kong and his obvious and stupid posts? This guy is desperate to get a good row going and will post anything to do it. I'm afraid I very rarely actually post anything on here, I just read all the interesting info you all post, however I have to say something this time.
It seems to me that everyone is trying so hard to get out here and enjoy Australia. I am sure most, if not all of us are realistic. I love the uk and I miss it however I now also love Australia. No where is perfect and everyones idea of what Oz is going to be like is different. Also everyones idea of what constitutes 'shovelling shit' will also be different however at the end of the day we all want the same thing, to get to Oz and enjoy it so Good Luck!
Ignore Kong and I'm sure he'll get bored and go away.
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