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tahititim Aug 18th 2007 6:57 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 5207275)
We did bring some electronics, but you have to be careful what you bring. Our laptop was a little older, and even with the converter/adapter we managed to blow it up - including the mysterious white smoke - about 6 weeks after arriving. Also my blow dryer got so hot on the cold setting that I managed to fry off a very large chunk of hair one morning. My food processor works fine but my blender spits out smoke and black oil every time I try to make a Margarita. Must buy a new one before summer comes. :)

We got quotes from Crown, Pickfords and one other who I can't remember. We went with Pickfords because we had used them for 2 previous cross-country moves and they offered a discount for being a frequent user. They also moved us interstate here and offered the same discount. I think it worked out to about 20% off the original quote.

Just FYI, Haley, Holden is GM here. A lot of the Holden dealerships now fly the Holden/GM banner. I know when we bought my car the financing guy said it could be financed through GM/Holde. Any other questions and we're here to help.

thanks a lot Dorothy again...
WEll, I really want to move to OZ, so I guess even if it means to sacrafice on little things it is fine for me. By the way, can you tell me if there is any equivalent to Costco in OZ as well as which stores would match Safeway/Save-on or Superstore down there.
Oh, almost forget, is car insurance comparable with canadian one price wise.

Thanks a million

Dorothy Aug 18th 2007 8:44 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 
No, there is no Costco equivelent here. I haven't been able to find any decent outlet stores. There is something called Harbour Town, but it's nothing like the outlets we get in NA. We moved from Southern Ontario, so used to hop over to Buffalo for the day and shop at the cheap outlets in the States. When we lived in BC we used to go to Bellingham for the outlets.
Coles or Woolworths are the big grocery chains here. We do have Wal Mart, but it's called Big W here. The Aussies would argue it's not WalMart, but it is WalMart. We also have K Mart and Target for cheapy stores. The equivalent to The Bay would probably be David Jones and Sears would be Myer.
For car insurance, I paid about $300 for the YEAR on my car. Registration costs me about $600 for the year, so it's much cheaper than Ontario. I can't remember what I paid for ICBC so can't compare to BC anymore.
If you need anything else, just shout.

Vash the Stampede Aug 18th 2007 9:55 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 5207885)
We do have Wal Mart, but it's called Big W here. The Aussies would argue it's not WalMart, but it is WalMart.

Speaking as an Aussie, I can assure you that Big W is not Walmart. It was created in the 1970s as a division of Woolworths (an Australian company established in the 1920s).

There is absolutely no connection between Walmart and Big W.

Dorothy Aug 18th 2007 11:00 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 5208046)
Speaking as an Aussie, I can assure you that Big W is not Walmart. It was created in the 1970s as a division of Woolworths (an Australian company established in the 1920s).

There is absolutely no connection between Walmart and Big W.

Wal Mart owns Woolworths in North America. It was bought in the early 1990's. And, if Big W is not part of WalMart, can you explain why they have the same yellow smiley mascot, the same slogan "We sell for less" and "roll back" prices?

Wendy Aug 18th 2007 11:05 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 5208166)
Wal Mart owns Woolworths in North America. It was bought in the early 1990's. And, if Big W is not part of WalMart, can you explain why they have the same yellow smiley mascot, the same slogan "We sell for less" and "roll back" prices?


According to the link above:

Many of the techniques used by Big W in promotions are nearly identical to the US chain Wal-Mart, such as the in store "smiley face" and the "price rollback". Indeed, former Woolworths CEO and one-time Big W Managing Director Roger Corbett has a mentor relationship with a former President of Wal-Mart and has been appointed to the board of the American retailer.

comet555 Aug 18th 2007 11:06 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 
There might not be a connection between Walmart and Big W. But I agree with Dorothy, it looks and feels like a Walmart to me.

I used to shop at Safeway and Canada and here I like Coles. Here's a hint that will save you some time. Look for the eggs on a regular shelf, not in the refrigerated section. I must have went around the entire store twice before finding the eggs.

I was interested in Dorothy's comparisons because I've made the same ones on my own. I guess I should have just asked her in the first place, it would have saved me a lot of time! And no, there's no Costco unfortunately. I can hardly find anything in bulk either even in the regular grocery stores. No more family packs of cookies for us, which is probably a good thing :)

I would say these are pretty equivalent in my opinion:
Walmart = Big W
Zellers = K Mart
Safeway = Coles
Save-on-Foods = Woolworths (or close anyway)

I haven't yet been to a David-Jones or a Myer but Dorothy's comparision seems pretty accurate based on the flyers I've seen.

There's also Target which I would say is sort of like Sears or The Bay without all the appliances and really big items.

I haven't quite seen anything like Superstore yet, although most of the grocery stores I go to have a row or two devoted to household type items.

Oh yah, there's no Air Miles here....it's flybuys. I was really confused the first few times at the grocery store when they would look at me and say "Flybuys"? When in doubt just smile and say no. It didn't take me long to clue in though.

Here's a couple of links from my blog about terminology and shopping. I've realized most of the Oz/Canada comparision are buried in the earlier section of the blog back in May.
http://haleyculver.spaces.live.com/b...4BA2!798.entry (check out the links on the bottom)
http://haleyculver.spaces.live.com/b...4BA2!863.entry
http://haleyculver.spaces.live.com/b...4BA2!797.entry
http://haleyculver.spaces.live.com/?...26ayear%3d2007
There are definitely differences at first but I never minded, it just made shopping more interesting! Now that I've been here a few months I've discovered which brands I like and don't like by process of elimination.

Weirdstone Aug 18th 2007 11:07 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 
Hi .... I can't add much more than others have written, except I have been Melbourne for over 2.5 years, am an Agency (psych) nurse, and have worked in all the big city hospitals - so if you want any info...ask away - either here or via PM
:)
Cas

Dorothy Aug 18th 2007 11:08 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 5208171)
According to the link above:

Many of the techniques used by Big W in promotions are nearly identical to the US chain Wal-Mart, such as the in store "smiley face" and the "price rollback". Indeed, former Woolworths CEO and one-time Big W Managing Director Roger Corbett has a mentor relationship with a former President of Wal-Mart and has been appointed to the board of the American retailer.

In 1992 or 93 WalMart bought the North American arm of Woolworth, which had earlier bought out the Canadian arm of Kresge/K-Mart, and rebranded all the former K-Mart and Woolworth stores into WalMarts. The stores here in Australia are almost identical to the Canadian version of WalMart.

Wendy Aug 18th 2007 11:13 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 5208180)
In 1992 or 93 WalMart bought the North American arm of Woolworth, which had earlier bought out the Canadian arm of Kresge/K-Mart, and rebranded all the former K-Mart and Woolworth stores into WalMarts. The stores here in Australia are almost identical to the Canadian version of WalMart.


If it helps there's a BigW in Bradford, where I come from and that looks just like it too :D

Hows things?

SimonG Aug 18th 2007 11:14 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 5208180)
In 1992 or 93 WalMart bought the North American arm of Woolworth, which had earlier bought out the Canadian arm of Kresge/K-Mart, and rebranded all the former K-Mart and Woolworth stores into WalMarts. The stores here in Australia are almost identical to the Canadian version of WalMart.

On the subject of store comparisons, what are the equivalents in Australia of Home Depot and Canadian Tyre?

comet555 Aug 18th 2007 11:18 pm

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by SimonG (Post 5208199)
On the subject of store comparisons, what are the equivalents in Australia of Home Depot and Canadian Tyre?

No clue yet....Dorothy???

I think I'll need to know the answer to this when we get our new house in a few weeks.

Vash the Stampede Aug 19th 2007 7:43 am

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 5208180)
In 1992 or 93 WalMart bought the North American arm of Woolworth, which had earlier bought out the Canadian arm of Kresge/K-Mart, and rebranded all the former K-Mart and Woolworth stores into WalMarts. The stores here in Australia are almost identical to the Canadian version of WalMart.

However, the North American "Woolworth" is a completely different company to the Australian "Woolworths", and the two are not connected.

The original American F.W. Woolworth Company and related businesses:
  • F. W. Woolworth Company was the original USA based chain of five and dime stores.
    * Foot Locker, the current name of the company after its change in focus to athletic clothing.
    * Woolworths Group is the owner of the Woolworths chain of high street shops in the UK (originally part of the F.W. Woolworth company, but separate since 1982).
    * Woolworth GmbH is the owner of the Woolworths chain of high street shops in Germany & Austria (originally part of the F.W. Woolworth company, but separate since 1998).
    * Woolworths (Cyprus), originally part of F.W. Woolworth, sold off in 1985 and subsequently split (no longer retailing under Woolworths name)

The Australian Woolworths Limited and its related businesses:
  • Woolworths Limited is the largest retail company in Australia. Although named after the F.W. Woolworth Company (above), it has no other connection with its U.S. namesake.
    * Woolworths (supermarkets) also refers to the chain of supermarkets in Australia owned by Woolworths Limited.
    * Woolworths Supermarkets (New Zealand) is a New Zealand supermarket chain fascia, originally spun off from the Australian Woolworths Limited, and now under their ownership again.
Wikipedia.

The reasons for Big W's similarity to Walmart has already been explained.

twhurl Aug 19th 2007 8:47 am

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by SimonG (Post 5208199)
On the subject of store comparisons, what are the equivalents in Australia of Home Depot and Canadian Tyre?

Home Depot would be Bunnings.
Not sure about Canadian Tire

On the general subject. I grew up in Canada moved back to Uk for 6 years now off to Perth. Does anyone miss Canadian winters ? I loved them as a kid but had enough of them by the time I left and now couldn't imagine dealing with them ever again.
I was worried that the Perth winters weren't 'wintery' enough but experienced a bit of june and was quite impressed. The light and the leaves on the ground reminded me of Canada.

jad n rich Aug 19th 2007 10:02 am

Re: Canada to Oz
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 5209526)
However, the North American "Woolworth" is a completely different company to the Australian "Woolworths", and the two are not connected.

The original American F.W. Woolworth Company and related businesses:
  • F. W. Woolworth Company was the original USA based chain of five and dime stores.
    * Foot Locker, the current name of the company after its change in focus to athletic clothing.
    * Woolworths Group is the owner of the Woolworths chain of high street shops in the UK (originally part of the F.W. Woolworth company, but separate since 1982).
    * Woolworth GmbH is the owner of the Woolworths chain of high street shops in Germany & Austria (originally part of the F.W. Woolworth company, but separate since 1998).
    * Woolworths (Cyprus), originally part of F.W. Woolworth, sold off in 1985 and subsequently split (no longer retailing under Woolworths name)

The Australian Woolworths Limited and its related businesses:
  • Woolworths Limited is the largest retail company in Australia. Although named after the F.W. Woolworth Company (above), it has no other connection with its U.S. namesake.
    * Woolworths (supermarkets) also refers to the chain of supermarkets in Australia owned by Woolworths Limited.
    * Woolworths Supermarkets (New Zealand) is a New Zealand supermarket chain fascia, originally spun off from the Australian Woolworths Limited, and now under their ownership again.
Wikipedia.

The reasons for Big W's similarity to Walmart has already been explained.


:eek: This is realllllllly important to you isnt it:rofl:

I thought Big W was a chinese store, everythings Made in China:rofl:


Back to the thread, we know canadians living here for now, (the wifes australian) she says they are finding aus expensive but say thats due to the smaller market, canada must have the benefit of being neighbours to 220 million usa consumers, far more competitive.

comet555 Aug 19th 2007 10:42 am

Re: Canada to Oz
 
Well some things are more expensive. For example hockey equipment, for the obvious reasons. We bought a pair of hockey pants on sale at Canadian Tire for $50, here they are $398. A wooden stick for $30, here it is $70. So either of you plays hockey make sure you get equipment before you leave. And obviously check to see if where you're moving has hockey because only the major citites do.

Before we left a friend of a friend told us things are expensive. He told me his pants were like $200. So I asked on here what the heck this guy was talking about. It was determined that he probably was buying Levis or similar import brands. So if you're stuck on particular clothing buy it before you leave, or adapt and buy a similar item here. We haven't spent any more on clothing than we normally do but that's because we are buying the local stuff which is fine for us.


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