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des is quite keen to leave loads of stuff behind so the new owners can sort it out and bin it, i say lets get rid of it ourselves and leave the house spick and span with a bottle of champers for the new owners on their arrival

considering they are taking on our cat who is right

arlene

You have certain legal responsibilities. If you remove a shelf for example you have to fill the holes (although not paint them) If the list you fill out for the solicitor (can't remember what's it called) states your not leaving the fridge they can charge you for its removal if you leave it.

There's also the ethical side, what would you want to have your next house like when you move in?

julian

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I was talking about this with a friend of mine at work just last week; she's just bought a house and moved in, only to find the previous owners looked like they had left it in a state. Personally I would get rid of it. No offence to Des but my friend and I had a proper b'tch about the previous owners to her new house :D

There's also the ethical side, what would you want to have your next house like when you move in?

julian [/QUOTE]


my sentiments exactly

one up for me

arlene

Des's idea is very tempting, but I have to say you're in the right Arlene! Tell him to imagine moving IN to a house full of junk!!
And Julian's right, there is a legal issue on this too.

it wil be clean just talking about leaving garden furniture and a flat packed wadrobe (in the attic) along with a couple of bits and bobs

still im winning on this one

arlene

I actually fell foul on this issue. I left a cooker and fridge that wasn't wanted and I had to pay for fee for their removal before my money was released by my solicitor. He's also my father-in-law and he just said I had to pay it as I didn't have a leg to stand on. Most people just moan, but there are some that take action. Do you really want to get charged, I was charged £120, to take a couple trips the dump.

Julian

The solicitors form of fixtures and fittings ( have just filled one in for the sale of our house ) only tells of the 'printed' things you are leaving.....i.e.....sockets and power points...had a MAJOR laugh at this one...who on earth in their right mind would take their sockets with them??? Theirs some strange people out there!!!!!

Anyhow....my brother bought a house 2 yrs ago and the previous owners left a sunbed, a wardrobe, a chest of drawers and lots of food in the EXTREMELY grubby food cupboards in the kitchen.

The sellers had no recourse whatsoever and my brother had to dump all their undesirable bits and pieces himself.

Call us hippies, call us whatever you like, but our philosophy in life is: treat others as you would like to be treated yourself and what goes around, comes around....

CLEAR THAT JUNK....SCRUB LIKE YOU'VE NEVER SCRUBBED BEFORE...and ignore Des...he's just a lazy bloke who can't be arsed to take the stuff to the tip!!!!!!!!

Good luck Arlene!:) ;)

They might be glad of an extra wardrobe or some garden furniture. Why don't you give them a call and ask them if they want it?

sandy

Or better still, haven't you got some rellies or neighbours who might like it for free?

I'm talking about the furniture:D :D

Des, you are truly outnumbered :D

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Haven't got a clue about the legal issues.. but certainly and morally speaking , I would leave it clean and empty, with maybe a hamper.. cheese, crackers , flowers and wine, and other goodies ( and a thank you note about your cat and wishing them all the happiness in their new home)

Or, just phone them and ask them ( if you haven't got their phone number.. go through the estate agents) to see if the garden furniture is any use to them.

Or , if nobody want's it, and you can't be bothered going to the dump. just pile up all the stuff in your driveway one weekend , and put a big sign outside your drive with "free garden, household items .. please feel free to take what you want" - there's always someone who wants something for free no matter how tatty.

But I would certainly not leave it for the new owners without asking them first, moving is bad enough, and unpacking your own junk.. without having someone elses unwanted junk to clear out first in your new home.

cheers:)

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depends what it is IMHO.

Can't really complain, for example, about garden furniture.
Either they will say "'righto, this may come in handy'", or they will just offload to someone pronto.

If I was left a household of stuff I would be grateful. I would keep what I could use, and offload the rest.

BM

Clear it out - when we moved into our house the previous owners had left all sorts of junk - some potentially useful and some not - and it was a pain in the arse.

In terms of getting rid of it - we had a de junk before we moved here so it was all neat and tidy for our tenants and piled a load of stuff at the bottom of the drive in preparation for a trip to the dump.

Left it a day and a night and, I am not kidding, it just disappeared.

People took what they wanted - we got several notes through the door asking if it was OK so if you put a sign on it it should go like hot cakes.

Even the most rickety computer table you have ever expereinced in your life went!

One house we left the landlord let us have the stuff as long as we disposed of what we did not want. He was selling and did not want the hassle of emptying the place. Worked out well for us as we then found a dirt cheap unfurnished place that enabled us to save enough to have a good start here.

I agree with Ceri

Especially if they are having your cat..how nice of them !!plus I think you should always put yourself in that situation and how you would feel...!!

When we moved into our house the dirty buggers had not even cleaned their oven....eeekkkk grease or what !!We found fag butts in our bathroom cabinets..nice !! so for me I think leave it how you would like to find it yourself.!!!

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We had a chat through the agents with the people who were taking the house. Let them know what we didn't want any more - they really aprreciated it as were moving from a flat to a house and didn't have much furniture. For some of the better pieces we were even able to get some cash! Its really worth having a chat with them.

every rental I have been in in Aus in the past years ( we're in our own built home now), when I first moved in ... yuck!!.

now I know I am abit of a "cleanliness" freak.. but really!

kitchen Cupboards were never ever clean.. just emptied, toilets - well> I always used to change the toilet seat for a new one when I moved to a new rental (didn't like the fact I don't know who's dirty big butt was there last ..lol) , and it was never, ever clean behind the actual toilet (out of sight out of mind I suppose.. but I hate toilets!)... ovens.. never clean.

I always ended up going through gallons of bleach to clean the place before I unpacked ( maybe it's just me being too fussy)

Had one house back in Sing ( and it was a right "posh" house too, houses are posh in Sing... they are not cheap!.. most people live in flats or conndo's) and that was the worst for "cleanliness".. it came partial furnished... well the mattress had all these suspicious stains over it... it was minging ... so out it went.. ( not that I fancied sleeping on someone else's mattress anyway). But that house .. who ever lived there before was a right dirty Bugger aye.. cockroach prob as well, there were a load of them under the sink nesting ( they are the same big brown ones we get here - the Asain cockroch.. but these were bigger)

cheers

I could have cried when I got the keys to my house. It took us a long time to clear out all the unwanted stuff they left. We couldn't make them pay as they had not left a forwarding address with their solicitor. It makes life difficult for the people moving in , please have some consideration.

Arlene - you win with this one defo.

We moved onto this house & they had left boxes & paint & stuff in the garage, & more boxes in the loft. Also left the shed - which we said we did not want - in the end we sold it for £50 so that was not too bad!

There was enough stuff left to fill a mini skip - spoke to the solicitor & he said that we could charge them for a skip but we could not be bothered with the hassle. But the annoying thing was they took all but one carpet. They had wanted to charge us £5,000 for the carpets & a few bits of really old, tacky MFI furniture ( 2 chests of drawers & a wardrobe) We said "no thank you" & the buggers took the carpets - they were very krass & not what I would have wanted (certainly did not want to pay for the things) but would have OK to get us started - but instead we had to go around covering all the gripper rods & walked around on the underlay - which did not last long before it gave up the ghost!! No carpets for 18 mths - tight sods!
I would try the free to a good home tac tic first - pockygoes

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Deal with it yourself and definitely don't leave it! I was disgusted when I moved into our home. The place was left dirty and they had left an array of their (no longer needed) possessions also. It took us two days to get it acceptable enough to live in and another day disgarding their unwanted stuff - very poor form in my opinion!

We moved in August last year and the previous owners left it absolutley immaculate. it made the whole moving experience an absolute joy (well almost!!!). Seriously it made all the difference being clean and sorted. I would definitely recommend the clean and tidy option.

Des,

Just do what my vendors did.

Hide the bloody stuff in the loft! It was three months before I bothered to go up there :mad:

Seriously, H went round the place like a woman possessed.

I'm sure it was appreciated but hey they got a good deal on the place. A quick sweep up and wipe with a damp cloth should do the trick, sorry bloke talking here.

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Yep, my brother has just had a similar experience. Having spent 3 days attacking their (rented) house with bleach and a steam cleaner to make sure they got their deposit back, they were a little peeved to find that their new house (purchased) was absolutely, disgustingly filthy and full of junk. So they spent another 3 days out with bleach and steam cleaner and my brother had some very choice words to say about the people they brought the house from. Clean house and champers is a much nicer idea

i win i win i win

arlene

I wouldn't say that to Des, Arlene, or you might find yourself cleaning on your own!

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Arlene you are!
reason - because you are a woman!!!!!


;) :D ;)

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:D :D :D ;)

Phoenixuk2oz

says he needs pressure to get him going WHAT

how much pressure does the man need two weeks to go until the shippers arrive, i call that pressure

arlene