Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
Jan 15th 2015, 8:46 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
Spell out the hard cold facts for us.
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor is just too ridiculous to take seriously. If you earn more, you pay more. That's a moral and beneficial obligation. Moral because you are ensuring that people less wealthy then you can afford the same level of education and health care which promotes a better, more educated and healthier society. Beneficial as the more the lower income earners can afford to spend their money, the wealthier the rich will get.
But please, show me the hard cold facts.
Taking from the rich and giving to the poor is just too ridiculous to take seriously. If you earn more, you pay more. That's a moral and beneficial obligation. Moral because you are ensuring that people less wealthy then you can afford the same level of education and health care which promotes a better, more educated and healthier society. Beneficial as the more the lower income earners can afford to spend their money, the wealthier the rich will get.
But please, show me the hard cold facts.
Yet you keep insisting the wealthy do not pay their share.
Few facts were outlined earlier. From memory the wealthiest 2% pay 26%. There was an intersting stat from the UK too.
Still you insist the wealthy do not pay their share.
Jan 15th 2015, 8:51 am
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Jan 15th 2015, 8:54 am
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Jan 15th 2015, 8:56 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
The Fabians have brainwashed you, but it's not your fault as the vast majority have been brainwashed
Jan 15th 2015, 8:59 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
You can have a civil society with less civil servants, less welfare and less tax. In fact it would be a better place as it would be more efficient and more people would be pushing to better themselves
The Fabians have brainwashed you, but it's not your fault as the vast majority have been brainwashed
The Fabians have brainwashed you, but it's not your fault as the vast majority have been brainwashed
Jan 15th 2015, 9:02 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
The only time socialist politicians do things right is when they do non-socialist stuff
I like plenty about the UK. I lived there fairly happily for 10 years and it is part of my heritage and if, for whatever reason, I had to live there again, I could. I just don't see it as the shangri-la that the majority of BE do
Jan 15th 2015, 9:03 am
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Jan 15th 2015, 9:03 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
You are correct. The more wealth one creates the more you pay in tax. Compounding when it comes income tax.
Yet you keep insisting the wealthy do not pay their share.
Few facts were outlined earlier. From memory the wealthiest 2% pay 26%. There was an intersting stat from the UK too.
Still you insist the wealthy do not pay their share.
Yet you keep insisting the wealthy do not pay their share.
Few facts were outlined earlier. From memory the wealthiest 2% pay 26%. There was an intersting stat from the UK too.
Still you insist the wealthy do not pay their share.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/op...h.html?_r=1&hp
Unless you can show me Gina Rinehart paying a higher percentage of tax than the usual worker, don't try that old, failed, canard.
“Because most of their income comes from investments, billionaires like Rinehart, Clive Palmer and Andrew Forrest pay a much lower proportional tax rate than the average Australian family,”
Jan 15th 2015, 9:04 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
You are correct. The more wealth one creates the more you pay in tax. Compounding when it comes income tax.
Yet you keep insisting the wealthy do not pay their share.
Few facts were outlined earlier. From memory the wealthiest 2% pay 26%. There was an intersting stat from the UK too.
Still you insist the wealthy do not pay their share.
Yet you keep insisting the wealthy do not pay their share.
Few facts were outlined earlier. From memory the wealthiest 2% pay 26%. There was an intersting stat from the UK too.
Still you insist the wealthy do not pay their share.
How is that fair?
Jan 15th 2015, 9:11 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
You are correct. The more wealth one creates the more you pay in tax. Compounding when it comes income tax.
Yet you keep insisting the wealthy do not pay their share.
Few facts were outlined earlier. From memory the wealthiest 2% pay 26%. There was an intersting stat from the UK too.
Still you insist the wealthy do not pay their share.
Yet you keep insisting the wealthy do not pay their share.
Few facts were outlined earlier. From memory the wealthiest 2% pay 26%. There was an intersting stat from the UK too.
Still you insist the wealthy do not pay their share.
Jan 15th 2015, 9:15 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
Very strange
I'll never start it but will always respond - with interest. But today I won't
Up to you
Jan 15th 2015, 9:19 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
All your post nowadays seem to be some ridiculous stereotypical right wing posturing or derogatory statements about Muslims or 'poms'....are you incapable of discussing anything else?
Jan 15th 2015, 10:09 am
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Jan 15th 2015, 10:11 am
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Re: Call To Raise GST A Regressive Step?
Well he does appear to be turning with regards to England after hearing how much can be earned there. Bit of a right wing mercenary I fear. Will go with whoever pays the most.