Buying in WA? Be careful...
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Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
We may just buy a small investment property in a part of WA in which we would not want to live. That way, we get to live in a great area but still get some kind of foot on the WA property market.
Stressful huh!
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Re: Buying in WA? Be careful...
Originally Posted by webgum
This is what we are considering. Our house in the Uk is safely tenanted (for now) so we are considering an apartment as investment to get the proverbial foot in the door.
Stressful huh!
Stressful huh!
Don't forget that if the market does rise say 15% this next year (I don't think it will but I have nothing other than gut feeling and the patterns shown over the rest of Australia to go by), followed by say 3% a year for the next two years after then this gives a simple (rather than compound) rise of 21% over three years. There are other investment vehicles where you could get something not too far behind 7% per annum (we've achieved 15% per annum just with unit trusts over the last two years) - minimising the difference between what your savings would be worth and what the potential property would be worth.
These figures are obviously hypothetical and they could be an over or under estimate but they serve to show that panic buying into the market might not necessarily result in the gains over the next few years through property price increases compared with the next best alternative.
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Originally Posted by lynnj
It is no longer the cheap option that it was compared to buying an established property, 3 years ago you could have picked up a block in a new develpoment for $60k now it's $150k,
Lynn
Aussie friends of ours bought their land (850sqm) for $61,000, built their property and have just sold it for $290,000. I think they sold at the right time.
I remember that she had to sleep overnight in her car to be one of the first in the queue when the land was released for sale...bet they don't do that now!!?
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Originally Posted by Bella Donna
http://www.ga.gov.au/urban/geohazard...ami_ausgeo.jsp
Interesting, and maybe not implausible when you consider that the earth's oceans are predicted to rise substantially with the melting of the polar icecaps....?
Interesting, and maybe not implausible when you consider that the earth's oceans are predicted to rise substantially with the melting of the polar icecaps....?
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Originally Posted by renth
We live in a fantastic house, pool, sea views, the lot and we rent. People ask us why we "waste" money renting and it's because if we did have a mortgage, for the same rent we are paying we'd barely be able to afford a $300,000 house rather than the $1,000,000 one we currently live in.
We do still own a lovely house in the UK and we can't bring ourselves to sell it.
People have spoken about things like terrorist attacks or Tsunamis but there are a couple of much more likely things that could affect house prices in Australia - bird flu and peak oil. The first might not happen the second will, possibly very soon and could cause a major economic collapse.
We do still own a lovely house in the UK and we can't bring ourselves to sell it.
People have spoken about things like terrorist attacks or Tsunamis but there are a couple of much more likely things that could affect house prices in Australia - bird flu and peak oil. The first might not happen the second will, possibly very soon and could cause a major economic collapse.
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Originally Posted by renth
We live in a fantastic house, pool, sea views, the lot and we rent. People ask us why we "waste" money renting and it's because if we did have a mortgage, for the same rent we are paying we'd barely be able to afford a $300,000 house rather than the $1,000,000 one we currently live in.
We do still own a lovely house in the UK and we can't bring ourselves to sell it.
People have spoken about things like terrorist attacks or Tsunamis but there are a couple of much more likely things that could affect house prices in Australia - bird flu and peak oil. The first might not happen the second will, possibly very soon and could cause a major economic collapse.
We do still own a lovely house in the UK and we can't bring ourselves to sell it.
People have spoken about things like terrorist attacks or Tsunamis but there are a couple of much more likely things that could affect house prices in Australia - bird flu and peak oil. The first might not happen the second will, possibly very soon and could cause a major economic collapse.
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Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
It could be but I think the biggest stress is finding somewhere to rent in Perth that you are happy to make your home long term. Once you have achieved this (and navigated around the real estate sharks), then you get the breathing space to figure out what to do.
Don't forget that if the market does rise say 15% this next year (I don't think it will but I have nothing other than gut feeling and the patterns shown over the rest of Australia to go by), followed by say 3% a year for the next two years after then this gives a simple (rather than compound) rise of 21% over three years. There are other investment vehicles where you could get something not too far behind 7% per annum (we've achieved 15% per annum just with unit trusts over the last two years) - minimising the difference between what your savings would be worth and what the potential property would be worth.
These figures are obviously hypothetical and they could be an over or under estimate but they serve to show that panic buying into the market might not necessarily result in the gains over the next few years through property price increases compared with the next best alternative.
Don't forget that if the market does rise say 15% this next year (I don't think it will but I have nothing other than gut feeling and the patterns shown over the rest of Australia to go by), followed by say 3% a year for the next two years after then this gives a simple (rather than compound) rise of 21% over three years. There are other investment vehicles where you could get something not too far behind 7% per annum (we've achieved 15% per annum just with unit trusts over the last two years) - minimising the difference between what your savings would be worth and what the potential property would be worth.
These figures are obviously hypothetical and they could be an over or under estimate but they serve to show that panic buying into the market might not necessarily result in the gains over the next few years through property price increases compared with the next best alternative.
We have decided that panic buying (and selling) is not for us, so will watch the market and decide in the next 12 months what to do.
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Originally Posted by janeyray
I remember that she had to sleep overnight in her car to be one of the first in the queue when the land was released for sale...bet they don't do that now!!?
The property developers have realised that they can get just as much for a smaller block as they used to get for the traditional quater acre. Money for old rope I say.
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Originally Posted by renth
They certainly do, people were camping out for a number of recent land releases in the northen Perth suburbs, for really small blocks.
The property developers have realised that they can get just as much for a smaller block as they used to get for the traditional quater acre. Money for old rope I say.
The property developers have realised that they can get just as much for a smaller block as they used to get for the traditional quater acre. Money for old rope I say.
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Originally Posted by janeyray
Blimey thought that may have been a thing of the past!! Pricey too I bet!
Nothing like Harbour Rise here are the latest prices for some blocks, INSANE :
450sqm $525,000 - Right on the Front, opposite “A” Class Reserve
600sqm DUPLEX $595,000 - Great Value
859sqm $690,000 - Views over Marina Enter off Barbados
450sqm $410-$449,000 - Quiet Way OFFERS COSIDERED
451sqm $550,000 - Beachfront
450sqm $560,000 - Beachfront
450sqm $560,000 - Beachfront
451sqm $550,000 - Beachfront
http://www.harbourrise.com.au/land.htm
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Here's a Harbour Rise bargain you wouldn't want to miss:
"This has to be the best value for money in Perth.:"
353 Sqm - $560,000
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...=&fmt=&header=
"This has to be the best value for money in Perth.:"
353 Sqm - $560,000
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...=&fmt=&header=
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Originally Posted by renth
Here's a Harbour Rise bargain you wouldn't want to miss:
"This has to be the best value for money in Perth.:"
353 Sqm - $560,000
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...=&fmt=&header=
"This has to be the best value for money in Perth.:"
353 Sqm - $560,000
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...=&fmt=&header=
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Re: Buying in WA? Be careful...
[QUOTE=renth]I think one of the places was Brighton. I can't remember the prices but it's still over $100,000 for a small block.
Nothing like Harbour Rise here are the latest prices for some blocks, INSANE :
450sqm $525,000 - Right on the Front, opposite “A” Class Reserve
600sqm DUPLEX $595,000 - Great Value
859sqm $690,000 - Views over Marina Enter off Barbados
450sqm $410-$449,000 - Quiet Way OFFERS COSIDERED
451sqm $550,000 - Beachfront
450sqm $560,000 - Beachfront
450sqm $560,000 - Beachfront
451sqm $550,000 - Beachfront
The last Brighton release which was for blocks in Ridgewood saw people camping out for 5 days before the release. 600sqm blocks were selling for $150k. all the blocks were gone by the time the people who had camped out for 2 days hit the front of the queue. 2 years ago you could have bought a 4x2 in Ridgewood for $150k.
Lynn
Nothing like Harbour Rise here are the latest prices for some blocks, INSANE :
450sqm $525,000 - Right on the Front, opposite “A” Class Reserve
600sqm DUPLEX $595,000 - Great Value
859sqm $690,000 - Views over Marina Enter off Barbados
450sqm $410-$449,000 - Quiet Way OFFERS COSIDERED
451sqm $550,000 - Beachfront
450sqm $560,000 - Beachfront
450sqm $560,000 - Beachfront
451sqm $550,000 - Beachfront
The last Brighton release which was for blocks in Ridgewood saw people camping out for 5 days before the release. 600sqm blocks were selling for $150k. all the blocks were gone by the time the people who had camped out for 2 days hit the front of the queue. 2 years ago you could have bought a 4x2 in Ridgewood for $150k.
Lynn
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[QUOTE=lynnj]
The last Brighton release which was for blocks in Ridgewood saw people camping out for 5 days before the release. 600sqm blocks were selling for $150k. all the blocks were gone by the time the people who had camped out for 2 days hit the front of the queue. 2 years ago you could have bought a 4x2 in Ridgewood for $150k.
Lynn
This has got to be the cheaper option to buying an already established house as the prices for those really seems to have shot up? Although I think it's taking the builders longer to build them than two years ago?
Originally Posted by renth
The last Brighton release which was for blocks in Ridgewood saw people camping out for 5 days before the release. 600sqm blocks were selling for $150k. all the blocks were gone by the time the people who had camped out for 2 days hit the front of the queue. 2 years ago you could have bought a 4x2 in Ridgewood for $150k.
Lynn
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[QUOTE=janeyray]
$150k for your land plus at least the same again for your build plus finishing costs......... factor in the rent you pay while you are building and there probably isn't much in it.
Lynn
Originally Posted by lynnj
This has got to be the cheaper option to buying an already established house as the prices for those really seems to have shot up? Although I think it's taking the builders longer to build them than two years ago?
Lynn