To Buy or Not to Buy?
#46
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
[QUOTE=BATS666;6869717][QUOTE=Nu-Shooz;6869703]Maybe the rep selling this house has been telling fibs to potential buyers, making them outbid each other, or pretending there were other bidders.....
surely not ??!!!
lol...
surely not ??!!!
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
Strange isnt it.
I was out looking at home opens in Tapping yesterday.
One house on for Low 400s the agent was telling me buyer was looking for offers of $380k and he hadnt had any offers in 3 months.
Then a home open in Carramar the agent wasnt interested in talking to me because there were 6 other couples.
She was on phone today telling me vendors are desperate and would look at any offer.
I wont be buying at the minute until prices drop further.
There are a lot of desperate sellers who bought land in Tapping over priced 2 years ago and will lose money big time
I was out looking at home opens in Tapping yesterday.
One house on for Low 400s the agent was telling me buyer was looking for offers of $380k and he hadnt had any offers in 3 months.
Then a home open in Carramar the agent wasnt interested in talking to me because there were 6 other couples.
She was on phone today telling me vendors are desperate and would look at any offer.
I wont be buying at the minute until prices drop further.
There are a lot of desperate sellers who bought land in Tapping over priced 2 years ago and will lose money big time
I think I've said my piece on this thread and don't want to become embroiled with it any further, but be aware that you will always get people talking down the market in the hope that it will somehow make it more suitable for them when they are ready to buy.
People selling and people not yet in the market will always have strong opinions that suit their situation. For the best impartial advice I'd suggest that you closely monitor the movements of houses in the areas that you are interested in.
Good luck
#48
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
Did anyone just hear the head of Woodside on ABC news? He said that WA will be significantly affected by the downturn and that Woodside is freezing employment.
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
...... be aware that you will always get people talking down the market in the hope that it will somehow make it more suitable for them when they are ready to buy.
For the best impartial advice I'd suggest that you closely monitor the movements of houses in the areas that you are interested in.
Good luck
For the best impartial advice I'd suggest that you closely monitor the movements of houses in the areas that you are interested in.
Good luck
I have been monitoring the market for nearly 2 years. Prices have been falling for the last 12 from Freo down to Mandurah, stuff isn't selling and either sticks on the market at lasy years prices, or is taken off the market. $850K houses drop to $750K and then might sell but it's anyones guess what the actual selling price is.
Anyone who tells you that the market will pick up now, after a whole 1% interest rate drop, is either not up on current affairs or is a real estate agent.
#50
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Whenever I want a laff, I head for those living the dream (groan!)
Let's look at how things are likely to pan out over the next few months.
1. We are heading for a global recession.
2. If we're incredibly lucky, most Western economies will avoid a severe recession (thanks to Britain's lead).
3. The Asian countries didn't have the lesson of the Great Depression, so God knows what'll happen with those economies, but it won't be pretty.
4. Countries that depend on these Asian tigers (stand up Oz!) will see their currency drop sharply. Even though £ has dropped significantly, the Oz $ is dropping a lot faster.
My predictions for Oz (over the next 2 years).
1. Unemployment to increase sharply.
2. Interest rates will drop, but will have little impact on employment or house prices.
3. Exchange rates will decline further. 2.6+ to the £ will be the norm.
4. House prices, especially in WA, will tank.
Oh, yes, the IMF is way too optimistic.
Now , I'll wait and tick them off..
Let's look at how things are likely to pan out over the next few months.
1. We are heading for a global recession.
2. If we're incredibly lucky, most Western economies will avoid a severe recession (thanks to Britain's lead).
3. The Asian countries didn't have the lesson of the Great Depression, so God knows what'll happen with those economies, but it won't be pretty.
4. Countries that depend on these Asian tigers (stand up Oz!) will see their currency drop sharply. Even though £ has dropped significantly, the Oz $ is dropping a lot faster.
My predictions for Oz (over the next 2 years).
1. Unemployment to increase sharply.
2. Interest rates will drop, but will have little impact on employment or house prices.
3. Exchange rates will decline further. 2.6+ to the £ will be the norm.
4. House prices, especially in WA, will tank.
Oh, yes, the IMF is way too optimistic.
Now , I'll wait and tick them off..
#51
Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
I have been monitoring the market for nearly 2 years. Prices have been falling for the last 12 from Freo down to Mandurah, stuff isn't selling and either sticks on the market at lasy years prices, or is taken off the market. $850K houses drop to $750K and then might sell but it's anyones guess what the actual selling price is.
Anyone who tells you that the market will pick up now, after a whole 1% interest rate drop, is either not up on current affairs or is a real estate agent.
Anyone who tells you that the market will pick up now, after a whole 1% interest rate drop, is either not up on current affairs or is a real estate agent.
http://www.oldlistings.com.au/real-e...ping/6065/buy/
#52
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
Here is a great site for looking to see how long a property has been listed and at what price:-
http://www.oldlistings.com.au/real-e...ping/6065/buy/
http://www.oldlistings.com.au/real-e...ping/6065/buy/
e.g.
House first listed at $1.25 million in Jan 07.
Reduced Nov 07 to $970K
Reduced Feb 08 $899K
Reduced July 08 $799K
Still for sale @ $799K.
Listed in above website as "Aug 08 $799K".
Nothing else.
Kinda disguises the reality doesn't it ??
#55
Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
Here is a great site for looking to see how long a property has been listed and at what price:-
http://www.oldlistings.com.au/real-e...ping/6065/buy/
http://www.oldlistings.com.au/real-e...ping/6065/buy/
#57
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
The West Australian today ran an article with headline "Some suburbs have price increases" or suchlike.
If you read the article, it suggests disaster. House prices have fallen 10% in the last 9 months - how does this compare to the UK? (Median now at $426K)
Even Rob Druitt suggests that more falls are to come. That there's an over-supply (how can there be an over supply when there is so much in-migration?). But perhaps most concerning is that rents have stabilised and vacancy rates are up - this means that investor yields are still way too low and it seems unlikely to improve. The only way it seems for investor yields to improve?? Prices to come down.
Amongst all of this, a couple of suburbs (Joondalup north ironically) have stabilised over the last quarter - and this was made into the key headline.
If you read the article, it suggests disaster. House prices have fallen 10% in the last 9 months - how does this compare to the UK? (Median now at $426K)
Even Rob Druitt suggests that more falls are to come. That there's an over-supply (how can there be an over supply when there is so much in-migration?). But perhaps most concerning is that rents have stabilised and vacancy rates are up - this means that investor yields are still way too low and it seems unlikely to improve. The only way it seems for investor yields to improve?? Prices to come down.
Amongst all of this, a couple of suburbs (Joondalup north ironically) have stabilised over the last quarter - and this was made into the key headline.
#58
Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
Just heard that Mr Rudd is announcing today that first time home buyers grant is going up from $7k to $14k
Interesting
Interesting
#60
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Re: To Buy or Not to Buy?
Rudd announced this morning he plans on using the budget surplus he inherited, to stimulate the economy with handouts and payments.
Thats the same money last week he claimed would protect us from the economic woes of the rest of the world. I think he needs Ritalin.