building your own home?
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I think the main reason people say the house is cold/hot/costs a fortune to heat/cool even on a new build house is not because of the build methods, it's becouse most of our houses are single story and bigger that what we had in the UK. Where do you gain/loose most heat? Through the roof. Huge roof? well what do you expect!
And as for it costing a fortune to run, people have a house twice as big as they did in the UK but don't think they should pay twice as much to run it. Go figure......
Me? Speced R7 in the roof and R2 in the walls and all is fine.
And as for it costing a fortune to run, people have a house twice as big as they did in the UK but don't think they should pay twice as much to run it. Go figure......
Me? Speced R7 in the roof and R2 in the walls and all is fine.
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We have been actively looking for somewhere to buy for a while now but have been so disappointed with the housing here. We have looked at anything in the area ranging from $300k to over $1m. New properties are over developed (no garden or outside space) and mainly poorly built, no insulation, no double glazing, older ones are a mishmash of extensions/add-ons which don't really work, with walls as thin as paper!!
Anyway so now we are considering that buying land and building our own house may be a better option. We would like to build something energy efficient.
For those of you who have done it would you recommend it for the non trade novice? and if so where do we start? where do you start finding house builders, architects, builders etc? Are there any publications you would recommend. Pitfalls to look out for?
I have started trawling the internet but its pretty daunting, I would really like some general what to look out for advice. Thanks
Anyway so now we are considering that buying land and building our own house may be a better option. We would like to build something energy efficient.
For those of you who have done it would you recommend it for the non trade novice? and if so where do we start? where do you start finding house builders, architects, builders etc? Are there any publications you would recommend. Pitfalls to look out for?
I have started trawling the internet but its pretty daunting, I would really like some general what to look out for advice. Thanks
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Thank you all for your replies. We are in the Wollongong area and are feeling the cold at the moment!
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
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Thank you all for your replies. We are in the Wollongong area and are feeling the cold at the moment!
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
Cheers and good luck, steve
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We built our own house in Perth with APG, a project builder. They are part of the Dale Alcock, Webb Brown-Neaves etc company.
We chose one of their designs which had an L-shaped footprint. We then changed the downstairs and upstairs lay-out completely - only the kitchen is in the original place.
Before we signed the contract we also specified a number of items with regards to the construction of the house, such as:
- Double glazing (from Perth Double Glazing). These are German (Koemmerling) uPVC units with 6.38mm outside pane and 4mm inside pane.
- All outside doors also from Perth Double Glazing. They are UK uPVC doors with steel inside.
- Cavity wall insulation (house is double-brick construction throughout).
- R6.0 ceiling insulation batts plus the "silverfoil stuff" (forgot the name) insulation directly underneath the roof tiles to reduce the heat in summer.
Once APG agreed to all of the above, we signed the contract.
During the build we hired an independent builidng inspector who came and inspected the house four times at key points in the build to make sure everything was okay and doen to our specification (we aren't builders ourselves).
We've now lived in the house for nearly a year (28 May it'll be one year). During last year's winter we only had the heating on for part of the day for two days (we have reverse cycle air-con for heating).
Having proper double glazing again is fantastic .
APG were fantastic throughout the process and I would not hesitate to recommend them and we'd build with them again.
This is a great website for looking at display homes in WA:
http://www.displayhomeswa.com.au/
We chose one of their designs which had an L-shaped footprint. We then changed the downstairs and upstairs lay-out completely - only the kitchen is in the original place.
Before we signed the contract we also specified a number of items with regards to the construction of the house, such as:
- Double glazing (from Perth Double Glazing). These are German (Koemmerling) uPVC units with 6.38mm outside pane and 4mm inside pane.
- All outside doors also from Perth Double Glazing. They are UK uPVC doors with steel inside.
- Cavity wall insulation (house is double-brick construction throughout).
- R6.0 ceiling insulation batts plus the "silverfoil stuff" (forgot the name) insulation directly underneath the roof tiles to reduce the heat in summer.
Once APG agreed to all of the above, we signed the contract.
During the build we hired an independent builidng inspector who came and inspected the house four times at key points in the build to make sure everything was okay and doen to our specification (we aren't builders ourselves).
We've now lived in the house for nearly a year (28 May it'll be one year). During last year's winter we only had the heating on for part of the day for two days (we have reverse cycle air-con for heating).
Having proper double glazing again is fantastic .
APG were fantastic throughout the process and I would not hesitate to recommend them and we'd build with them again.
This is a great website for looking at display homes in WA:
http://www.displayhomeswa.com.au/
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Re: building your own home?
Thank you all for your replies. We are in the Wollongong area and are feeling the cold at the moment!
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
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Thank you all for your replies. We are in the Wollongong area and are feeling the cold at the moment!
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
Building our own is becoming more apealing after viewing a few more dud open houses today. How easy is it to get planning if you want to knock down the old house and build new?
Has anyone tried underfloor heating here? Maybe linked to a solar heating system?
Rough cost is $15-20k to install which is about the same as reverse cycle - which is why most people go for reverse cycle!
If you do go with this option you need to think about your floor covering. All the bumpf says it will go with any floor type, but it works best with tiles - I would not use it on wood for example.
We investigated the solar bit too - but do you really want limited heating when there is little sun? Gas boosted (so its tops up the heat with a gas boost) is a safer bet
Good luck
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Don't use an architect, use a draftsman.
employ a draftsman who specialises in energy efficient homes, and the same for a builder.
The project builders (the ones who build display homes you find in all the new estates) pay lip service only to energy efficient homes.
If you are building a really energy efficient home to a high standard expect to pay $1200 - $1500 per square metre (not including land).
BB
employ a draftsman who specialises in energy efficient homes, and the same for a builder.
The project builders (the ones who build display homes you find in all the new estates) pay lip service only to energy efficient homes.
If you are building a really energy efficient home to a high standard expect to pay $1200 - $1500 per square metre (not including land).
BB
I guess this is per sq metre of usable space (so a 50m2 footprint with 2 storeys would be equivalent of 100m2 minus the necessary deductions for stairs etc).
Also, would this indication hold for extensions too?
Appreciate it depends on many factors but I'm looking at 'fag packet' numbers at the moment.
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So this indicative cost; is it on the basis of owner-building?
I guess this is per sq metre of usable space (so a 50m2 footprint with 2 storeys would be equivalent of 100m2 minus the necessary deductions for stairs etc).
Also, would this indication hold for extensions too?
Appreciate it depends on many factors but I'm looking at 'fag packet' numbers at the moment.
I guess this is per sq metre of usable space (so a 50m2 footprint with 2 storeys would be equivalent of 100m2 minus the necessary deductions for stairs etc).
Also, would this indication hold for extensions too?
Appreciate it depends on many factors but I'm looking at 'fag packet' numbers at the moment.
If you want to meet up and have a chat about this I'm only round the corner from you.
BB
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Very indicative, but buying from a project home builder will cost you $600 - $1000 per sqm, buying from a bespoke builder $1000 - $1500+, and owner building $500 - $1500 depending on your spec and how much you will be doing yourself. Clearly if you are going to pour your own foundations and do your own brickwork you will pay a lot less than if you sub these.
If you want to meet up and have a chat about this I'm only round the corner from you.
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If you want to meet up and have a chat about this I'm only round the corner from you.
BB
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