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Old Jul 31st 2008, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by wengerboy View Post
what a crock of shit,unless you can download a kilo of bolivian on it whats da point!
Are you saying that this is a stupid idea on the part of customs or that you doubt the validity of the story?

With all the major ISP's in the UK 'getting into bed' with the BPI (http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=13820) I now think that the tide is turning for torrent downloaders, in terms of being implicitly protected by the ISP.

Anythings possible as a consequence. Once the floodgates of IP traffic policing are open there will be no going back.
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Old Aug 1st 2008, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK View Post
Are you saying that this is a stupid idea on the part of customs or that you doubt the validity of the story?

With all the major ISP's in the UK 'getting into bed' with the BPI (http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=13820) I now think that the tide is turning for torrent downloaders, in terms of being implicitly protected by the ISP.

Anythings possible as a consequence. Once the floodgates of IP traffic policing are open there will be no going back.
It'll never happen

Offering bandwidth & speed is what keeps ISPs in business

As soon as they start firing off cease and desist letters to their customers, they'll be off like a shot.

No torrent downloaders=no bandwidth/speed requirement=no revenue=no ISP

Your 'mainstream' ISPs (Bigpond et al) might try their chances

Serious ISPs will not
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Old Aug 1st 2008, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK View Post
Are you saying that this is a stupid idea on the part of customs or that you doubt the validity of the story?

With all the major ISP's in the UK 'getting into bed' with the BPI (http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=13820) I now think that the tide is turning for torrent downloaders, in terms of being implicitly protected by the ISP.

Anythings possible as a consequence. Once the floodgates of IP traffic policing are open there will be no going back.
I`m saying both! yes it`s a dumbass idea and yes it was a column filler.

as tictac mentioned before, no bandwidth no point lets all go dial up
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Old Aug 4th 2008, 3:13 am
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If your ISP starts sending you cease and desist letters like they did to me years ago before the RIAA had any authority in the UK I would simply just change ISP. Mind you tho I was Downloading 500gig a month on average.
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I can't believe how expensive broadband appears to be in Oz compared to the UK. I've been looking at http://broadbandguide.com.au and for even a measly 20gb download limit on an 8mb+ connection it's $70 a month! BB with a bundled telephone line appears to be slightly better value for money but still, it's like harking back what to prices were like here in the UK about 5 years ago.
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Originally Posted by MattW82 View Post
I can't believe how expensive broadband appears to be in Oz compared to the UK. I've been looking at http://broadbandguide.com.au and for even a measly 20gb download limit on an 8mb+ connection it's $70 a month! BB with a bundled telephone line appears to be slightly better value for money but still, it's like harking back what to prices were like here in the UK about 5 years ago.
In fairness, there are far better deals to be had than that, but yes, comparatively speaking it's quite expensive.
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I've done some research since being over here and I've found Dodo to be the cheapest for ADSL 2 and home phone with 100,000 / 100,000. Suprised no one has mentioned them???

https://secure.dodo.com.au/wizard/se...spx#usernumber
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Originally Posted by bigpaul View Post
I've done some research since being over here and I've found Dodo to be the cheapest for ADSL 2 and home phone with 100,000 / 100,000. Suprised no one has mentioned them???

https://secure.dodo.com.au/wizard/se...spx#usernumber
I keep a close eye on these things, got to admit that one had passed me by.

I think TPG are a better company than Dodo, although thats just heresay...http://www.tpg.com.au/products_servi...us_pricing.php

and IInet even better. Still 10 bucks per month cheaper than TPG for Dodo is pretty good going.

Bear in mind there will probably be a 33 buck per month line rental payable to Telstra on top of that.

Thats why the IInet naked plans (no line rental) are possibly the best option still.

Optus may well warrant a mention as well, as they have a plan which includes all calls including mobiles and excluding some international ones for 129 bucks per month... only 30 gigs allowance at ADSL2 though which is crap, although the throttle speed is a worthy 256 k.

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Originally Posted by bigpaul View Post
I've done some research since being over here and I've found Dodo to be the cheapest for ADSL 2 and home phone with 100,000 / 100,000. Suprised no one has mentioned them???

https://secure.dodo.com.au/wizard/se...spx#usernumber
I'm still on dial up which is with Dodo, and is as fast as some of the broadband connections I've used at other people's houses here. The other advantage is that they let you dial in, its not tied to our phone number, so when we go to the MiL in Woop Woop I can just use her phone line to dial in to dodo, and all it costs her is the connection fee of a local call. Not a cat in hells of a wireless connection out there so without dodo I'd be a seriously cross witch.
Dodo don't get mentioned often, and I've never understood why because they are good, in fact by Aussie internet standards they are excellent !
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Originally Posted by Pollyana View Post
I'm still on dial up which is with Dodo, and is as fast as some of the broadband connections I've used at other people's houses here. The other advantage is that they let you dial in, its not tied to our phone number, so when we go to the MiL in Woop Woop I can just use her phone line to dial in to dodo, and all it costs her is the connection fee of a local call. Not a cat in hells of a wireless connection out there so without dodo I'd be a seriously cross witch.
Dodo don't get mentioned often, and I've never understood why because they are good, in fact by Aussie internet standards they are excellent !
iinet ADSL has a dial up account to usw if your adsl is not on-line
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iinet ADSL has a dial up account to usw if your adsl is not on-line
Yeah? Might be worth looking at, but can I dial in from ANY phone number? Most of them say you can only dial in from your home number, and being difficult I want the ability to dial in from the MiLs place as well.
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Originally Posted by MattW82 View Post
I can't believe how expensive broadband appears to be in Oz compared to the UK. I've been looking at http://broadbandguide.com.au and for even a measly 20gb download limit on an 8mb+ connection it's $70 a month! BB with a bundled telephone line appears to be slightly better value for money but still, it's like harking back what to prices were like here in the UK about 5 years ago.
At current UK prices (driven by rampant competition) the ISPs are making almost nothing and life is very difficult for them. Hence the appalling customer service - it's just not worth their time to try and solve your problem, since they'll lose several months' worth of margin on even the simplest call. Plus the UK has plenty of capacity.

I used to be with Demon in the UK - they cost more than others but gave good service and when you called up tech support you spoke to a real live engineer who knew what (s)he was talking about. Over the last few years all that's vanished since they couldn't keep up the service levels and compete on price; they ended up just like all the other ISPs. Personally, I'd rather have the ISP make a sensible margin on what they charge me, so they can give decent service. There's more to it than just the bare price.

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Originally Posted by Pollyana View Post
Yeah? Might be worth looking at, but can I dial in from ANY phone number? Most of them say you can only dial in from your home number, and being difficult I want the ability to dial in from the MiLs place as well.
From https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Broadband_explained#toc_4

"Do all iiNet broadband plans have a backup dialup account?

Yes. All iiNet's broadband products include a backup dialup account. This can be used if your broadband service fails or if you need Internet access away from home through a dialup connection. The national dialup number for broadband customers is 0198 379 000. In some areas, this may not be charged as a local call. Please check with Telstra on 1800 11 30 11 or your with phone provider if any additional call charges apply. You'll need to change the dialup number stored in your computer's Internet properties to this national dialup number to use the backup dialup account. You can also download the iiNet Transition Assistant; this will step you through the setup.

Please note that you cannot use your broadband account and the dialup account at the same time due to login restrictions. If you intend on using your dialup while you're away from your broadband connection, it's a good idea to switch your DSL modem off prior to leaving or ask someone to do so while using the dialup connection. If you do forget to do this, you can still dial in but this will disconnect your broadband connection. "
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From https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/Broadband_explained#toc_4

"Do all iiNet broadband plans have a backup dialup account?

Yes. All iiNet's broadband products include a backup dialup account. This can be used if your broadband service fails or if you need Internet access away from home through a dialup connection. The national dialup number for broadband customers is 0198 379 000. In some areas, this may not be charged as a local call. Please check with Telstra on 1800 11 30 11 or your with phone provider if any additional call charges apply. You'll need to change the dialup number stored in your computer's Internet properties to this national dialup number to use the backup dialup account. You can also download the iiNet Transition Assistant; this will step you through the setup.

Please note that you cannot use your broadband account and the dialup account at the same time due to login restrictions. If you intend on using your dialup while you're away from your broadband connection, it's a good idea to switch your DSL modem off prior to leaving or ask someone to do so while using the dialup connection. If you do forget to do this, you can still dial in but this will disconnect your broadband connection. "
Sounds possible then, might look into it a bit further - thanks for that
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I'd be interested, which would be far more relevant to me, is what speeds people are actually getting, rather than just looking at download limits. It;s easy enough to heck, but for those people that have posted what is their true speed of download, rather than the supposed advertised speed? Anyone willing to share?
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