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Old Feb 15th 2007, 9:04 pm
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In the UK I give blood as often as I can, I can't believe there are so many people who will not do it as it takes so little time, costs nothing and can save lives. I feel quite proud to be someone who does it.
I've just looked on the red cross Australia blood donation website, and it says anyone who's been in the UK over 6 months 1980-1996 cannot give blood because of mad cow disease? This makes me really sad and angry!! I know they have to take every precaution, etc etc, but there has been BSE in Australia too, and British beef was exported through all of that period... why are they saying that my blood might infect someone?!

Has anyone else from Britain donated blood in Australia? Is there a govt donation service that is separate from the red cross?

(I bet I won't even be allowed to give blood if I come back for hols to the UK, as they'll say I've been abroad too long or transitted through a malarial zone!)
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Originally Posted by esperanza
In the UK I give blood as often as I can, I can't believe there are so many people who will not do it as it takes so little time, costs nothing and can save lives. I feel quite proud to be someone who does it.
I've just looked on the red cross Australia blood donation website, and it says anyone who's been in the UK over 6 months 1980-1996 cannot give blood because of mad cow disease? This makes me really sad and angry!! I know they have to take every precaution, etc etc, but there has been BSE in Australia too, and British beef was exported through all of that period... why are they saying that my blood might infect someone?!

Has anyone else from Britain donated blood in Australia? Is there a govt donation service that is separate from the red cross?

(I bet I won't even be allowed to give blood if I come back for hols to the UK, as they'll say I've been abroad too long or transitted through a malarial zone!)

It is a bit annoying not being able to give blood - I still carry a donor card though.

Hubby and I gave blood regularly in the UK - hubby a gold badge or some level, five years here and never a drop . The worst times are when they have a blood drive in work rounding you up and trying to make you feel guilty for not going - I have to laugh it off saying nope no good you don't want mine

I gave blood back in the UK on one trip but that was after I was only here a year. I am back again in March maybe will have a try then.

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I am a huge woos who is still trying to conquer a fear of blood tests, let alone giving blood, so for me it's kind of a benefit cos I dont have to feel guilty that I dont give it!

But I do agree it's craziness, particularly since they're always harping on about there being a shortage of blood. That rule must mean there are thousands if not millions of people who cant donate - even ruling out all the UK immigrants it also means Aussies or other nationalities who visited in those times cant donate. And all becuase of an absolutely minute risk.

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Originally Posted by esperanza
In the UK I give blood as often as I can, I can't believe there are so many people who will not do it as it takes so little time, costs nothing and can save lives. I feel quite proud to be someone who does it.
I've just looked on the red cross Australia blood donation website, and it says anyone who's been in the UK over 6 months 1980-1996 cannot give blood because of mad cow disease? This makes me really sad and angry!! I know they have to take every precaution, etc etc, but there has been BSE in Australia too, and British beef was exported through all of that period... why are they saying that my blood might infect someone?!

Look on the bright side. The fact they can maintain a restriction like this suggests they are not really as short of blood supplies as they claim to be.
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Originally Posted by bridie
I am a huge woos who is still trying to conquer a fear of blood tests, let alone giving blood, so for me it's kind of a benefit cos I dont have to feel guilty that I dont give it!

But I do agree it's craziness, particularly since they're always harping on about there being a shortage of blood. That rule must mean there are thousands if not millions of people who cant donate - even ruling out all the UK immigrants it also means Aussies or other nationalities who visited in those times cant donate. And all becuase of an absolutely minute risk.

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It makes me laugh why they chose 6 months.

What about 5 months and 29 days? Or 6 months and 1 day?!
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Originally Posted by bridie
But I do agree it's craziness, particularly since they're always harping on about there being a shortage of blood. That rule must mean there are thousands if not millions of people who cant donate - even ruling out all the UK immigrants it also means Aussies or other nationalities who visited in those times cant donate.
It's not based on nationality. So of course it includes the many Australians who lived in the UK in that period.

I think you should conclude there's not really a "shortage of blood".
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Originally Posted by esperanza
In the UK I give blood as often as I can, I can't believe there are so many people who will not do it as it takes so little time, costs nothing and can save lives. I feel quite proud to be someone who does it.
I've just looked on the red cross Australia blood donation website, and it says anyone who's been in the UK over 6 months 1980-1996 cannot give blood because of mad cow disease? This makes me really sad and angry!! I know they have to take every precaution, etc etc, but there has been BSE in Australia too, and British beef was exported through all of that period... why are they saying that my blood might infect someone?!

Has anyone else from Britain donated blood in Australia? Is there a govt donation service that is separate from the red cross?

(I bet I won't even be allowed to give blood if I come back for hols to the UK, as they'll say I've been abroad too long or transitted through a malarial zone!)
Simple. Don't tell them.
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Originally Posted by esperanza
In the UK I give blood as often as I can, I can't believe there are so many people who will not do it as it takes so little time, costs nothing and can save lives. I feel quite proud to be someone who does it.
I've just looked on the red cross Australia blood donation website, and it says anyone who's been in the UK over 6 months 1980-1996 cannot give blood because of mad cow disease? This makes me really sad and angry!! I know they have to take every precaution, etc etc, but there has been BSE in Australia too, and British beef was exported through all of that period... why are they saying that my blood might infect someone?!

Has anyone else from Britain donated blood in Australia? Is there a govt donation service that is separate from the red cross?

(I bet I won't even be allowed to give blood if I come back for hols to the UK, as they'll say I've been abroad too long or transitted through a malarial zone!)
ive been down this road. you cannot give blood. simple as that. but you can still be an organ donor. i ripped my donor card. dummy spit i know but if my blood aint good enough then neither are my organs.
i once had to have a tranfusion when i was younger and the fact that i cant give blood is the one thing about living here f@#*s me off.
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Simple. Don't tell them.
cant they check from immigration? dont know if they go that far...
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ive been down this road. you cannot give blood. simple as that. but you can still be an organ donor. i ripped my donor card. dummy spit i know but if my blood aint good enough then neither are my organs.
i once had to have a tranfusion when i was younger and the fact that i cant give blood is the one thing about living here f@#*s me off.
It's not just here. You can't give blood in the UK either if you have had a UK blood transfusion.
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cant they check from immigration? dont know if they go that far...
The trouble with going down this road is that it undermines the whole integrity of the system.

Blood donations rely partly on self-screening - have you ever been a drug user etc etc.

When all said and done we don't know the long term risk of vCJD. Don't know if you need to have eaten one burger or a whole cow. Whether all genotypes will get it or just one type...

So trying to get round the system is a bit like a Greek tragedy - you may end up killing somebody because you were trying to save someone's life.
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The trouble with going down this road is that it undermines the whole integrity of the system.

Blood donations rely partly on self-screening - have you ever been a drug user etc etc.

When all said and done we don't know the long term risk of vCJD. Don't know if you need to have eaten one burger or a whole cow. Whether all genotypes will get it or just one type...

So trying to get round the system is a bit like a Greek tragedy - you may end up killing somebody because you were trying to save someone's life.
Yes, I wasnt condoning getting round the system I just assumed they would do some basic checks to see if you are able to donate.
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The way I see it, if they don't want my blood they're the ones missing out, not me!
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Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
It's not just here. You can't give blood in the UK either if you have had a UK blood transfusion.
maybe i slipped thru the system but i had a blood transfusion when i was seventeen and started giving blood when i was in my early twenties.
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maybe i slipped thru the system but i had a blood transfusion when i was seventeen and started giving blood when i was in my early twenties.
Depends on when you had the blood transfusion: If it was before 1 January 1980 then you can still donate blood. If it was on or after 1 Jan 1980, then you can't donate blood (or you might have slipped through the system).

If you look on the UK donate-blood website, there are all kinds of reasons when you can't give blood. They are very "picky", but in my view that's a really good thing.

I am old enough to remember when lots (and I mean LOTS) of haemophiliacs got blood transfusions of HIV infected blood and then promptly developed HIV and then AIDS and then died - in the days before we had AIDS drugs. (And that was in the days when the general public was extremely uneducated about HIV/AIDS.)

So, I for one am pleased that both in the UK and in OZ the blood services are very "picky" on who can/can't donate. And for those other posters who regard it as a personal affront that they can't give blood, they could consider that by not giving blood they may be saving someone's life (they won't be able to infect them with vCJD).

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