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The best future for our kids. Australia or UK?

Old Oct 27th 2011, 6:21 am
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Thanks, I rarely get personal and usually only when 'pushed' by certain members who should know better. There are certainly others on here that have a 'get out of jail free card'.
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Old Oct 27th 2011, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by Grayling
So what was I living in in Derbyshire
In a community; by the sounds of it; the same as the poster you are quoting and myself.

The poster is only talking about where he came from or a view he had or has.

Can you not see that, or are you playing the ignorant card? Because we all know you are patently not?!

My turn to shrug and rolleyes?
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The only consensus so far after one of the best debtates re Aus V UK I've seen on these boards is ....."It comes down to the indvidual and their circumstances"
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Old Oct 27th 2011, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by Grayling
In your opinion.

It is not just the rain....it is also the heat and humidity which can be a problem.


....and just how does the weather in England stop you doing outdoor things?
I've never understood this either.

I go out walking with my husband and kids almost every weekend.

The only times the weather stops us are if it is extremely cold or extremely wet. I.e, not that often.

The weather in the UK is generally no good for sunbathing, lying on beaches or having outside bbq's for a lot of the year. But it should rarely stop people going out walking, playing sports etc
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Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
There's always those like me though, who loved life in the UK and love life in Australia.

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I think I would be the same. In either country you can get out and make the most of it, explore the areas, socialise with people etc.

I've never understood the bagging of either country as a whole.
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having been here nearly 10 years I really miss the outdoor walks etc in britain. I am from wales and spent a lot of time rambling around (usually from pub to pub) - seriously though - there is just so much outdoor stuff to do there. I am in Australia for the long run as its better for me - but I think its really sad my kids cant go build camps and play in the fields. being from a very rural area, it seems really strange telling them they cant go and explore but snakes are an issue. and spiders. and leeches. and weird allergies
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Originally Posted by odyssey
having been here nearly 10 years I really miss the outdoor walks etc in britain. I am from wales and spent a lot of time rambling around (usually from pub to pub) - seriously though - there is just so much outdoor stuff to do there. I am in Australia for the long run as its better for me - but I think its really sad my kids cant go build camps and play in the fields. being from a very rural area, it seems really strange telling them they cant go and explore but snakes are an issue. and spiders. and leeches. and weird allergies
Forget the snakes. My kids and their frends are all over the place.
My kids can camp and do all that on an acre and there are tens and tens of k's of tracks that literally encircle the village. We never police them.

Friends have properties, acres to roam.

If you are from Wales...yes, there will be a level of expectation.
I would say to an outdoor enthusiast - you have to choose and select. Easier said than done if you are now city, or in suburbia but a latte might make up for it.

I am out and about walking in Victoria, the Dandenongs etc. A favourite haunt is the High country - and snow camping, and a few decent peaks, even half-technical. Twice the height of Snowdon. Ski-touring, cross-country skiiing. Bad point, hours to drive. More than from London to N Wales.
Get someone to share.

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Old Oct 27th 2011, 9:42 am
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I am rather dense on the differences between queensland and victoria. Are there less snakes there? i am not sure I could forget the snakes here, I am not particularly scared of them or anything but there seems to be a lot of them. we camp all the time, love it and thats ok, and paths are ok but long grass? Not sure - i have seen rather a lot of brown snakes over the last couple of years - perhaps its the area I am in (sunshine coast).

i ignore the red backs, don't even brush them off the bottom of the chairs quite often.
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Originally Posted by odyssey
I am rather dense on the differences between queensland and victoria. Are there less snakes there? i am not sure I could forget the snakes here, I am not particularly scared of them or anything but there seems to be a lot of them. we camp all the time, love it and thats ok, and paths are ok but long grass? Not sure - i have seen rather a lot of brown snakes over the last couple of years - perhaps its the area I am in (sunshine coast).

i ignore the red backs, don't even brush them off the bottom of the chairs quite often.
Hmmm..there is a sort of unhelpful piece of advice - that all snakes in Victoria are venomous. We all wear gaiters when we walk - a bit of insurance, nothing less.

But there seems maybe to be less of the extreme nutter snakes - the Taipans...the Cobras, the Hoop Snakes - you know, the ones who chase you out of the carpark into the aisle of Coles...

The Brown is deadly. We have that. The Tiger is nasty. The Red-bellied black is ubiquitous but inclined to be a bit lazy.

But I've been led to believe most snakes will run a mile.

And, we've never actively concerned ourselves with it. Every day I put on one of several pairs of boots and never check them. I plunge my hand in all sorts of places. Yes I am blase, and yes, I will pay for it one day - I promise I will report back if I live to tell the tale.

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Old Oct 27th 2011, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by odyssey
having been here nearly 10 years I really miss the outdoor walks etc in britain.
I love walking and rambling. Where are you O? Are there any national parks within driving distance?

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
Forget the snakes. My kids and their frends are all over the place.
Mine too within reason, the way it should be

Originally Posted by Kapri
I've never understood this either.

I go out walking with my husband and kids almost every weekend.

The only times the weather stops us are if it is extremely cold or extremely wet. I.e, not that often.
Having said that, today is one of those days. It is absolutely hammering down here!
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
Forget the snakes. My kids and their frends are all over the place.
My kids can camp and do all that on an acre and there are tens and tens of k's of tracks that literally encircle the village. We never police them.

Friends have properties, acres to roam.

If you are from Wales...yes, there will be a level of expectation.
I would say to an outdoor enthusiast - you have to choose and select. Easier said than done if you are now city, or in suburbia but a latte might make up for it.

I am out and about walking in Victoria, the Dandenongs etc. A favourite haunt is the High country - and snow camping, and a few decent peaks, even half-technical. Twice the height of Snowdon. Ski-touring, cross-country skiiing. Bad point, hours to drive. More than from London to N Wales.
Get someone to share.

I am about to join the Mountain Rescue Team. No more details - this is a public arena. The cops drive you there - cunning eh.


Would your kids or their friends know what to do if one of them got bitten by a snake with no adults around?
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Would your kids or their friends know what to do if one of them got bitten by a snake with no adults around?
Lie still and wait for certain death.

The reality is that all of them including maybe the wounded will tear around until one finds help, or the telephone. Not sure if my 4 year old could handle the excitement but my eldest might.

They are still young.

We might hold a drill over the weekend.
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In 4 1/2 years I have only ever seen one live snake in Australia and that was a non-venomous one in northern QLD.

We do loads of bushwalks, camping, off-roading etc here and have never yet seen a snake.

Sunburn should be a considerably greater concern for everyone but that doesn't seem to be a worry for people.

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
Lie still and wait for certain death.

The reality is that all of them including maybe the wounded will tear around until one finds help, or the telephone. Not sure if my 4 year old could handle the excitement but my eldest might.

They are still young.

We might hold a drill over the weekend.
Yikes. I'd send my kids on a first aid course for snake bites if it were me.

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Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee
In 4 1/2 years I have only ever seen one live snake in Australia and that was a non-venomous one in northern QLD.

We do loads of bushwalks, camping, off-roading etc here and have never yet seen a snake.

Sunburn should be a considerably greater concern for everyone but that doesn't seem to be a worry for people.

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I had one in my garden a few months back. A green tree snake apparently which the catcher couldn't catch.

$100 later.
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