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Oh come on Grayling. Whilst I don't agree with the OPs view of the UK, it's easy to spend summer evenings on the beach in many many places in Australia and particularly in Adelaide, where there are miles of clean, sparsely populated beaches, including at/near Hallett Cove, which is where he is looking at.

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I think we went to the beach about half a dozen times in seven years.....and we lived where it was warm all year round.

Highly overrated

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So what's you actual point Grayling? I can handle constructive feedback when I have got things wrong about the process or whatever but you've just come on here to be a complete tool. You've made no attempt at helping all you've done is try and be a smart arse and said you don't like the beach. Big wow I do, why would you move to a coastal area in the first place if you don't like the beach?

Idiots need not reply if you have no useful advice.

Thanks

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It's Ok if you are easily pleased.....I prefer a decent English pub with proper beer.....which is what I do now:thumbsup:

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I simply asked if you have ever been to Australia and you went off on one:rolleyes:

I obviously touched a raw nerve.

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I really don't understand British people who go to a foreign country and first thing they do is look for British things. Why didn't you spare yourself the expense and stay in England?

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I am in England....couldn't stand Australia

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I simply asked you if you had ever been to Australia


Why the hostile response?:confused:

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From Brisbane that's quite a lengthy trip right? :)

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:confused: i didn't live in Brisbane

I lived overlooking the sea as close to the Gold Coast as Brisbane

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Australia definitely has nicer beaches than the UK.

I don't think anybody has said otherwise have they? I know there has been talk of daylight and I will stand by my point that you get many, many more long evenings in the UK. No opinion in that, you can confirm by looking at the positions on the globe.

I lived ten minute walk from the beach. I could count on both hands the number of times I was there after work. As I mentioned it is dark by 7.30pm, would often only get home at 7pm and I am not really a beach in the dark kind of person. I do love beaches though and the sea, it is something I miss a lot now I have left. But truthfully I cannot say I was there that often, but it was nice knowing I could.

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I actually only go to the beach when I'm on holidray in Tassie, maybe two nights a year......the rest of the time I never see a beach, unless the family take me on a day out when I'm back in the uk -last one we did was a lovely sandy one on the Gower coast :thumbup: oh and I have to go home to Brighton now and then, with its pebbly beach, spent far more time there amongst the pebbles than I have here on the sand!

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I live 10 minutes walk from the beach at Coogee and frequently go there in the evenings to walk. There will be people swimming, people walking, barbecuing, drinking, eating dinner down there, right now. Loads of them.. The Brits might all be staying home being miserable but no-one else is.

It's currently 8.10pm where I am in Sydney and sunset is at 8.10pm today (coincidentally it's currently the latest sunset time of the year right now). It will be light for around another half hour after sunset. So the latest it gets dark here in Sydney is 8.30pm. Sunrise and sunset times in Sydney

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I have no idea where Wigan is apart from being 'North' but since being in the UK I've lived in Surrey, Somerset, Hampshire and soon to be Dorset ( or possibly Madrid but that's a bother story) and we go to the beach all the time, different beaches in summer and winter. I'll admit to being a bit extreme when it comes to outdoor sporting pursuits and there is plenty I don't like about the UK ( as there is a plethora of stuff I couldn't stand in Oz) but I don't get where you are seeing these litter strewn, polluted beaches?

It's very pleasant down here and hasn't changed much, scenery wise since I was young. I'm not saying the beaches are better in the UK, I'm a surfer, so of course that means waves appeal to me. But not every beach I've been to in Oz is better than some of the beaches I've been to in to the UK.

I think it very much depends on what you want from your beach. Flat/safe, surf, shaded etc. Australia in general has a good variety but the beaches aren't all brilliant, all the time, for a variety of reasons.

If I didn't surf, and could get work in my field, I'd possibly look at Glenelg because it's very cheap compared to the parts of Syd and Melb we would be prepared to return to.

There are generally two types of people that move to Oz from the UK. The 'escapee' and the 'adventurer'. I first moved to Australia in the '80s and have seen a few cycles of people come and go ( and come and go again). I appreciate you have genuine reasons to want to move to Australia and now we have a child, I can understand some of your reasoning.

My advice is though, don't demonise the UK in your mind to the degree that Australia has to be on some massively high pedestal because you may end up disappointed. Oz has its own issues and the separate cities within it have their own issues as well. Accepting that there are some things that work very well in the UK which don't in Oz AND vice versa, will yield you a higher percentage of happiness in Oz IMO.

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Thanks for that I agree with everything you have said, the beaches up north aren't nice and the ones close to me are on the irish sea which is murky and horrible. The beaches down south are nice but to live there is to expensive for us as the rise in wages wouldn't cover the rise in housing costs, however the earning potential in Australia for me is quite high and could I could live a lot more comfortably especially as the wife's earning potential is quite good aswell.

I am under no illusions that Australia has its bad points aswell as good just like most places but when it comes to weather, housing and earning there's no comparison.

Btw Wigan is between Manchester & Liverpool.