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janeyray Jun 12th 2004 11:03 am

Back in the UK
 
Well I'am back!!!

Lots to do like getting a car, waiting for our container and looking for jobs... oh and getting a house. All a bit like being in Oz really!!!

Things feel a bit strange after only two days back, everything here seems smaller and more overgrown (have the council mowers gone on stike?) but it feels like home and I'am really excited about settling in and being part of my old self again. Excited about looking for a house (no matter what size!!!) and looking forward to getting a car.

Meeting up with a few of my friends tomorrow which I'am really looking forward to and it's great having family to lend support while we try and start our lives all over again.

It doesn't feel strange to be in the UK but it feels like we've been gone for years. When I was leaving OZ I had some really sad emails from people who were in OZ and said they couldn't afford to come back here and felt stuck. this is one of the reasons we felt we had to leave when we did. I can imagine for some it's very difficult especially after many years. I don't regret coming back at all, and I didn't have that awful sick, 'oh what have we done' feeling that I had when we landed in Perth!!!

Good luck, all you soon to be Aussies.:D

footie chick Jun 12th 2004 11:08 am

Glad you are back safe and sound Janeyray. Best of luck to you with your life back in the Uk.

footie chick

ANA123 Jun 12th 2004 11:55 am

Glad your back where you're happiest Janeyray.....good luck and keep us posted,
Michaela

Grayling Jun 12th 2004 12:01 pm

Rock on Janeyray
It's your life that matters here:)

All the best for your return. Hope it all works out for you.

Nottingham is good enough for me.(don't live there any more though:( ).

I hope if I ever decide to return (if I eventually get there) that I will also be positve about it.

Best wishes

G

Bix Jun 12th 2004 12:27 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 
Welcome "home" JR. :)

Lots of house bargains going on this site if you fancy living somewhere different in the UK ;)

cdandi Jun 12th 2004 12:49 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by Bix
Welcome "home" JR. :)

Lots of house bargains going on this site if you fancy living somewhere different in the UK ;)

I would be interested to know what house bargains are available and where.......or is there about to be a major tumble in UK house prices?????

Loopy Jun 12th 2004 1:24 pm

Good to see you back!! Really hope things go well for you & you manage to find a house that's not too small.

You got me thinking about Adelaide now!! Perth is the same as ever. Still like it this way but wonder if we'll ever get bored of it. Son is itching to go exploring, wants to go to the theme parks on the East coast or Bali (for cheap DVDs!!). Will be a while before we can go anywhere so will be making the most of Perth & it's surrounds this summer.

You'll love the site at the moment lots of rose tinted glasses about!

Anyway, enjoy settling back into UK life. How's your daughter doing? Where else did you go en route home, c'mon tell us all about it!!

All the best

Loopy

whisky Jun 12th 2004 2:44 pm

Oh, at last,

I have been on tenderhooks wondering where you are and what you are doing.

Pleased that you are back safe and sound, and you are happy to be back.

Good luck, and keep us posted.

Whisky

auxwuff Jun 12th 2004 3:02 pm

How long were you in Perth for J.R??

phyonics Jun 12th 2004 5:33 pm

cdandi

I think the comment was just because there are plenty of people desparate to sell their houses; the people that are moving to Oz.

So no house price crash imminent. Although that depends who you listen to obviously ;)
Me I'd say they'll keep on climbing albeit maybe at a slower rate.

Marko

wombat42 Jun 12th 2004 5:43 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by janeyray
Well I'am back!!!

Lots to do like getting a car, waiting for our container and looking for jobs... oh and getting a house. All a bit like being in Oz really!!!

Things feel a bit strange after only two days back, everything here seems smaller and more overgrown (have the council mowers gone on stike?) but it feels like home and I'am really excited about settling in and being part of my old self again. Excited about looking for a house (no matter what size!!!) and looking forward to getting a car.

Meeting up with a few of my friends tomorrow which I'am really looking forward to and it's great having family to lend support while we try and start our lives all over again.

It doesn't feel strange to be in the UK but it feels like we've been gone for years. When I was leaving OZ I had some really sad emails from people who were in OZ and said they couldn't afford to come back here and felt stuck. this is one of the reasons we felt we had to leave when we did. I can imagine for some it's very difficult especially after many years. I don't regret coming back at all, and I didn't have that awful sick, 'oh what have we done' feeling that I had when we landed in Perth!!!

Good luck, all you soon to be Aussies.:D

What do you mean they are stuck here and can't afford to go back. The cost of a one way ticket to the Uk is $1000 or 500 pounds. Even someone on the dole can afford this.
If they really wanted to go home they would.
The real reason they say they can't afford to go back is that they won't be able to afford the same lifestyle or high standard of living they have in Australia and would have to live in a smaller house. How dreadful it must be for them to be stuck in Australia when there are large numbers of people in the UK who really want to immigrate to Australia but can't get enough points.
If these whinging Poms don't want to pay for their airfares home then maybe we should deport them and let in the people who really want to be here.

Bix Jun 12th 2004 5:53 pm


Originally posted by phyonics
cdandi

I think the comment was just because there are plenty of people desparate to sell their houses; the people that are moving to Oz.

So no house price crash imminent. Although that depends who you listen to obviously ;)
Me I'd say they'll keep on climbing albeit maybe at a slower rate.

Marko
It was indeed Marko :)

A tongue in cheek comment about our fellow posters desperate to make the move but being delayed by their house sale.

Many have been suffering from buyers who pull out of the deal at the very last moment.

Emmigration plans that have been arranged in good faith are consequently left in a bit of chaos.

I really feel for them. :(

HiddenPaw Jun 12th 2004 8:53 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by wombat42
What do you mean they are stuck here and can't afford to go back. The cost of a one way ticket to the Uk is $1000 or 500 pounds. Even someone on the dole can afford this.
If they really wanted to go home they would.
The real reason they say they can't afford to go back is that they won't be able to afford the same lifestyle or high standard of living they have in Australia and would have to live in a smaller house. How dreadful it must be for them to be stuck in Australia when there are large numbers of people in the UK who really want to immigrate to Australia but can't get enough points.
If these whinging Poms don't want to pay for their airfares home then maybe we should deport them and let in the people who really want to be here.
she didn't say they were stuck because they couldn't afford a plane ticket...you came to that conclusion all by yourself!!

Aside from the costs of re-settling in the UK, the move itslef is expensive if you have a family and posessions to ship back. I think it cost us about 5000 GBP to move back, and that doesn't include the start up costs again in the UK....the fact that you may be unemployed for a period of time, that you may need to buy a car, that you may need to pay rent, that you may need to pay a rental deposit. It all adds up. It's no different to moving to Australia. You don't just buy a plane ticket with your last 500 quid and fly off to Australia but with no money for when you get there.

And I would imagine many of the 'whinging poms' who want to move back to the UK were once the excited Poms who 'really wanted to be in Australia' in the first place.:rolleyes:

debsy Jun 12th 2004 8:56 pm

Good luck Janeray.

Glad to hear that you arrived home ok.

Simone Jun 12th 2004 9:04 pm

Good to hear from you Janeyray, glad the trip was great!

Welcome 'home'!(Ok, I'm not in the UK, but at least we're in Europe and the northern hemisphere! :D)

Good luck with car, house, job!!! :)

MikeStanton Jun 12th 2004 9:22 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by wombat42
What do you mean they are stuck here and can't afford to go back. The cost of a one way ticket to the Uk is $1000 or 500 pounds. Even someone on the dole can afford this.
If they really wanted to go home they would.
The real reason they say they can't afford to go back is that they won't be able to afford the same lifestyle or high standard of living they have in Australia and would have to live in a smaller house. How dreadful it must be for them to be stuck in Australia when there are large numbers of people in the UK who really want to immigrate to Australia but can't get enough points.
If these whinging Poms don't want to pay for their airfares home then maybe we should deport them and let in the people who really want to be here.
Oh wise one, you seemed to have missed a few things out :rolleyes:

How about including:

i) cost of moving all belongings back to UK
ii) living costs while looking for a job

As for housing - the fact is, excluding major Oz cities, housing is cheaper than the UK equivalent. So, when people arrive in Oz, they celebrate this good fortune. But, it also means they are creating their own trap - not being able to afford to move back to an equivalent standard house in the UK.

I would love to know the number of people who really want to leave Oz, but can't afford to.

dotty Jun 12th 2004 9:45 pm

Well despite leaving almost 2 months ago my name keeps cropping up so:rolleyes:

I'll do a post:D


Re: Why some people cant move back.

Everyone understands the benefit of moving to OZ at 2.5 to 1

Now try it in the opposite direction. Voila :eek:


Thats it, like me short and sweet

:D

Bix Jun 12th 2004 10:11 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by wombat42
What do you mean they are stuck here and can't afford to go back. The cost of a one way ticket to the Uk is $1000 or 500 pounds. Even someone on the dole can afford this.
If they really wanted to go home they would.
The real reason they say they can't afford to go back is that they won't be able to afford the same lifestyle or high standard of living they have in Australia and would have to live in a smaller house. How dreadful it must be for them to be stuck in Australia when there are large numbers of people in the UK who really want to immigrate to Australia but can't get enough points.
If these whinging Poms don't want to pay for their airfares home then maybe we should deport them and let in the people who really want to be here.
Wombat,
Ever felt like you put your foot in it ?
If not you know the feeling now.
Can't argue with this one eh ? :D

Very valid points that we should all think about seriously.

JayDeee Jun 12th 2004 10:31 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by wombat42
What do you mean they are stuck here and can't afford to go back. The cost of a one way ticket to the Uk is $1000 or 500 pounds. Even someone on the dole can afford this.
If they really wanted to go home they would.
The real reason they say they can't afford to go back is that they won't be able to afford the same lifestyle or high standard of living they have in Australia and would have to live in a smaller house. How dreadful it must be for them to be stuck in Australia when there are large numbers of people in the UK who really want to immigrate to Australia but can't get enough points.
If these whinging Poms don't want to pay for their airfares home then maybe we should deport them and let in the people who really want to be here.
There are many threads on this site that comments like yours can almost be accepted because the vast majority of people involved in that thread are also in there for a row about nothing in particular.

However this was a thread started by someone who wanted to let the friends she had made on this site know that she had made it back to the UK safe and sound. I have no idea of her reason to come back to the UK and it is none of my business. She mearly made a point about some people who have moved to Oz had for there own (again nothing to do with anyone else) reasons for decided that Oz wasn't for them and because the Uk is a more expensive place to live/ cost of moving again etc etc this is not possible. this would also be the case for many people who have moved from the south of England to up north and from the east coast of OZ to the west. goin back is not always an affordable option

Why you felt the need to assume you know the reasons for them not "being able to afford it" and call them Whinging poms is beyond me.

Good luck to anyone who is moving wherever that may be it is your choice and no-one should tell you otherwise.

Kala

HUP Jun 12th 2004 11:31 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by wombat42
What do you mean they are stuck here and can't afford to go back. The cost of a one way ticket to the Uk is $1000 or 500 pounds. Even someone on the dole can afford this.
If they really wanted to go home they would.
The real reason they say they can't afford to go back is that they won't be able to afford the same lifestyle or high standard of living they have in Australia and would have to live in a smaller house. How dreadful it must be for them to be stuck in Australia when there are large numbers of people in the UK who really want to immigrate to Australia but can't get enough points.
If these whinging Poms don't want to pay for their airfares home then maybe we should deport them and let in the people who really want to be here.
You really take a simpletons view don't you.

Megalania Jun 13th 2004 12:12 am

Wombats are not renown for eloquence but they do dig well.

Clivey of England managed a dash from the Fatal Shore:

Back in England!!!!

Perhaps he had conviction?

Peter Jun 13th 2004 12:16 am

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by MikeStanton

I would love to know the number of people who really want to leave Oz, but can't afford to.
So would a lot of Australians. Maybe we can all run a chook raffle for them. :D

tinaj Jun 13th 2004 10:32 am

Hope it all works out for you Jane. Post some piccies of your house hunting bargains!

DianeOZ Jun 13th 2004 1:22 pm

Hubby was just asking about you yesterday! And here you are, back safe and sound.

Hope everything works out wonderfully.

Good luck
Diane and gang

jeannie Jun 13th 2004 6:11 pm


Originally posted by dotty
Well despite leaving almost 2 months ago my name keeps cropping up so:rolleyes:

I'll do a post:D


Re: Why some people cant move back.

Everyone understands the benefit of moving to OZ at 2.5 to 1

Now try it in the opposite direction. Voila :eek:


Thats it, like me short and sweet

:D

And how are things with you ???...are you house hunting in the South or North or in between.........:rolleyes: Been away so hope your not having to repeat all your news.....:)

glhall Jun 13th 2004 6:38 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by wombat42
What do you mean they are stuck here and can't afford to go back. The cost of a one way ticket to the Uk is $1000 or 500 pounds. Even someone on the dole can afford this.
If they really wanted to go home they would.
The real reason they say they can't afford to go back is that they won't be able to afford the same lifestyle or high standard of living they have in Australia and would have to live in a smaller house. How dreadful it must be for them to be stuck in Australia when there are large numbers of people in the UK who really want to immigrate to Australia but can't get enough points.
If these whinging Poms don't want to pay for their airfares home then maybe we should deport them and let in the people who really want to be here.
I think Wombat is mostly right here. If you really want to go back you will - end of story. Most people say theyre not moving to Oz/Nz for the money so money shouldnt be the big factor when moving back if its really that important to you. Also Im sure its easier to move back because you have the family support there and the advantage of knowing the culture etc. So what if the exchange dosnt work in your favour - You got the big $ when you arrived in Oz.

mlbonner Jun 13th 2004 6:44 pm

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by kala
There are many threads on this site that comments like yours can almost be accepted because the vast majority of people involved in that thread are also in there for a row about nothing in particular.

However this was a thread started by someone who wanted to let the friends she had made on this site know that she had made it back to the UK safe and sound. I have no idea of her reason to come back to the UK and it is none of my business. She mearly made a point about some people who have moved to Oz had for there own (again nothing to do with anyone else) reasons for decided that Oz wasn't for them and because the Uk is a more expensive place to live/ cost of moving again etc etc this is not possible. this would also be the case for many people who have moved from the south of England to up north and from the east coast of OZ to the west. goin back is not always an affordable option

Why you felt the need to assume you know the reasons for them not "being able to afford it" and call them Whinging poms is beyond me.

Good luck to anyone who is moving wherever that may be it is your choice and no-one should tell you otherwise.

Kala

I never normally get involved in these sorts of posts (the arguements, not the welcome homes!) but exactly that :)

From a Whinging Pom :p

Bix Jun 14th 2004 9:12 am

Re: Back in the UK
 

Originally posted by glhall
I think Wombat is mostly right here. If you really want to go back you will - end of story. Most people say theyre not moving to Oz/Nz for the money so money shouldnt be the big factor when moving back if its really that important to you. Also Im sure its easier to move back because you have the family support there and the advantage of knowing the culture etc. So what if the exchange dosnt work in your favour - You got the big $ when you arrived in Oz.
You are right that most people say they are not moving to Aus for the money and as a consequence I suspect this means a lot just "get by" financially.

Now if their planned new life doesn't work out for whatever reason they are in a bit of a catch 22 situation because they don't have the dosh to move back.

"so money shouldn't be the big factor" ?

........it is if you don't have any.
........it is if you have a little and the exchange rate devalues it.

.........and who got the big $ when they arrived in Aus ? Some yes but I have seen plenty on this forum going with little. A little goes a long way but it goes.

In summary I think you and Wombat missed the point. :)


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