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Siren & Brian Aug 22nd 2006 10:35 am

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
It doesn't surprise me that so many people don't understand road rules. There are so many overseas-born motorists who only have to do a written test to drive on the roads in Oz. I'm not talking about Poms but all the other migrants from the 4 corners of the world, some who've never even seen a roundabout before and have been granted a licence without having been shown how to use one.

My sister used to do all the written driving tests for her town in NW Vic. There is a high [non-European] migrant population, many of whom don't even speak English. She used to have to translate or explain the questions to them - they came from places like Iran, Afghanistan, Vietnam - and a lot of them only had experience of driving on dirt roads and not in urban areas. They can't even read the road signs!

Of course this doesn't excuse the entire population! :)



Thats right its not the Aussies that cant drive its the rest of you lot.

Now I wonder who knows the correct way for indicating on and off a roundabout??? No cheating and looking it up.

moneypenny20 Aug 22nd 2006 11:02 am

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 
If you want to see a town full of people unable to understand roundabouts go to my old home town :rolleyes: Roundabout usage in my neck of the woods here is 100% better than some UK ones

arkon Aug 22nd 2006 11:03 am

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by banjo
we noticed that with the rain.....people will actually pull over to the side of the road and wait for it to stop :confused:

That's beacuse noone told them where the windscreen wiper button was, only the wipies and blinkies buttons.

MartinLuther Aug 22nd 2006 11:04 am

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
Thats right its not the Aussies that cant drive its the rest of you lot.

Now I wonder who knows the correct way for indicating on and off a roundabout??? No cheating and looking it up.

I do - Vic rules are the same as the UK.

SAW 04 Aug 22nd 2006 11:10 am

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 
Wow some one knows about the dreaded Armdale Rotary! What's really frightening is that the rules are different depending on the time of day. And just to add insult to injury the rules change on a regular basis WITHOUT NOTICE!!??!!

You are guaranteed to witness an RTA pretty much every time your any where near it.

Having visited Australia a number of times I'm interested to know what you guys think of the general standard of driving there? I must say that I have been shocked and appalled by the lack of common sense and driving ability in Canada.

SAW 04


Originally Posted by northernbird
Ah yes, the Armadale Rotary!!

It would be interesting to see how a 4 way stop would work here instead of a roundabout.

For the aussie residents, a 4 way stop is a junction with 4 roads feeding in all with a stop sign. You literally take your turn to move away. When you rock up at the junction you have to try and remember who arrived before and after you. Can you imagine that working in Australia, NOT.


Siren & Brian Aug 22nd 2006 11:35 am

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by MartinLuther
I do - Vic rules are the same as the UK.


So what is it???

MartinLuther Aug 22nd 2006 12:06 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by Siren & Brian
So what is it???

On approach:
- indicate left if turning left.
- indicate right if turning right.
- no indication if going straight across.

On the roundabout indicate left just after the last exit before your exit.

Vic and UK drivers don't tend to do the last bit. UK drivers often don't do any indication at all and quite a few indicate left (on approach) even though they're going straight ahead.

:)

Mally Lass Aug 22nd 2006 1:15 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 
I would love to see them try the infamous Swindon multi 6-way roundabout here then :D Most people in the UK are stumped over that one :eek:

The only thing I found generally with Aussie drivers was that when you flashed to let them out, they stopped dead like rabbits caught in headlights :eek: waiting for something else to happen :p

BadgeIsBack Aug 22nd 2006 2:02 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by MartinLuther
Comparing where I live now (Mornington Peninsula) with where I used to live (London), the drivers here* are better on roundabouts. They tend to approach the roundabout in the correct lane and they tend to indicate properly. Unlike London where people would often use the wrong lane to enter the roundabout and where the indication was either non-existent or completely wrong (why do so many people in the UK indicate left when then they are going straight across the roundabout). I agree that the Aussies tend to be a bit more cautious entering roundabouts but I don't see this as a bad thing.

* By here I mean my locality not the whole of Australia.
:)

Have to be honest, we have one near us, I negotiate it every time I leave home, and no issues once.

It's near a bottleo so you'd expect it to be worse

One at Fountain Gate too - loads of room for error and drama - people have no problems too. Now I think about it, people are actually quite switched on.

NickyC Aug 22nd 2006 2:04 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by Mally Lass
I would love to see them try the infamous Swindon multi 6-way roundabout here then :D Most people in the UK are stumped over that one :eek:

The only thing I found generally with Aussie drivers was that when you flashed to let them out, they stopped dead like rabbits caught in headlights :eek: waiting for something else to happen :p

That's because flashing your lights here is traditionally done as a warning. Usually to indicate that there are cops on the road ahead or - if it was dark to tell you your lights weren't on. Flashing your lights at a stationary car would certainly flummox most people.

BadgeIsBack Aug 22nd 2006 2:05 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by MartinLuther
On approach:
- indicate left if turning left.
- indicate right if turning right.
- no indication if going straight across.

On the roundabout indicate left just after the last exit before your exit.

Vic and UK drivers don't tend to do the last bit. UK drivers often don't do any indication at all and quite a few indicate left (on approach) even though they're going straight ahead.

:)

The other problem is if straight on is sort of skewed, so people don't see it as straight on, and maybe the left turn is kind of 'straight', especially if it is the continuation of the main road.

They then indicate to turn off which does signal intent at least.

BadgeIsBack Aug 22nd 2006 2:26 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by nickyc
That's because flashing your lights here is traditionally done as a warning. Usually to indicate that there are cops on the road ahead or - if it was dark to tell you your lights weren't on. Flashing your lights at a stationary car would certainly flummox most people.

Flashing your lights to let someone in is a very English thing which is not provided for in the Highway Code. It actually means "I am here [you t*ss*r]"

It has the same meaning on the Continent and probably in Australia.

Apart from weaving on the highway, (and overtaking on the inside is allowed)which you do find on the M25 occasionally, I find the standard of driving similar.

If it is worse, then you're probably country and I don't blame people for driving in a laid back fashion - I'm the same.

Mally Lass Aug 22nd 2006 3:05 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by nickyc
That's because flashing your lights here is traditionally done as a warning. Usually to indicate that there are cops on the road ahead or - if it was dark to tell you your lights weren't on. Flashing your lights at a stationary car would certainly flummox most people.

I understand what it means when you're driving along, yet, if we're both stationery, because I have stopped to let them in and I'm waving them in, you'd think they'd get the message, it's not rocket science :rolleyes:

worzel Aug 22nd 2006 3:50 pm

Re: Australians don't get roundabouts
 

Originally Posted by Perthforme
It used to be 1st on the roundy thingy that had right o way till like 91 :scared:

That would explain a lot. :scared:


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