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Dec 16th 2002, 5:58 pm
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Dec 16th 2002, 6:10 pm
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
The Brits had to Ferry your piss pot Army to East Timor and were the first to land no Yanks there at all?
So no Republic because no Australian can not come up with anything better than Betty , sounds about right.
The Brits had to Ferry your piss pot Army to East Timor and were the first to land no Yanks there at all?
So no Republic because no Australian can not come up with anything better than Betty , sounds about right.
Dec 16th 2002, 10:58 pm
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Originally posted by madmancunian
>> The Brits had to Ferry your piss pot Army to East Timor and were the first to land no Yanks there at all?
So no Republic because no Australian can not come up with anything better than Betty , sounds about right.
You talk such nonsense PB, now tell me how britain won the Falklands war eh? I'm afraid the days of the brits going it alone are long gone (and I think you already know this).
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>> The Brits had to Ferry your piss pot Army to East Timor and were the first to land no Yanks there at all?
So no Republic because no Australian can not come up with anything better than Betty , sounds about right.
You talk such nonsense PB, now tell me how britain won the Falklands war eh? I'm afraid the days of the brits going it alone are long gone (and I think you already know this).
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Do not forget in 2 world wars they arrived late when most of the fighting was over , they do not pick on any country with nuclear arms they only try it on with minor states.
The Brits still have nuclear weapons to sort most countries if needed , Australia has sod all they can not cope with patroling East Timor , sending 150 SAS to the middle east was a joke just a few less than they sent the Gulf war.
The aussie crapped themselfs at the thought of losing Betty as I said they can not think of anything better .
Dec 16th 2002, 11:05 pm
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Originally posted by michael29
Thats funny dickhead my brother went to East Timor on an Australian Hercules.Get your facts right losser instead of shooting your mouth off.
Thats funny dickhead my brother went to East Timor on an Australian Hercules.Get your facts right losser instead of shooting your mouth off.
Plus the British ships used , the first to land and clear the way in where British Gurkhas.
The only shooting done was by them your Brave Aussies only went in when they saw that there was no one to fight.
British Army Gurkhas serving with the United Nations' peacekeeping force in East Timor have begun to escort UN aid convoys bringing much-needed supplies to thousands of desperate refugees believed to be sheltering in the hills. Chris Jeavans reports:
The Gurkhas are accompanying a series of aid convoys into the outlying areas of East Timor. Although the capital, Dili, has been declared safe by the United Nations peacekeepers, tens of thousands of Timorese are still sheltering in the hills without regular food and water. The 250 British soldiers are providing armed protection for the aid convoys as they pass through areas held by anti-independence militas. However, Lieutenant Commander Tony Cramp from the Headquarters of the British forces in East Timor, says he believes the risk of serious engagement with the militias is slight
The Australian-led ground troops will be supported by nine heavily armed warships including the British guided missile destroyer, HMS Glasgow.
Numerous British Hercules planes have been landing at Dili and then returning to Darwin. About 2,000 international troops, arriving by air and sea, are expected in East Timor by the end of Monday, and about 7,500 by mid-October.
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Dec 17th 2002, 1:27 am
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
The Queen had a Scottish Mother as I remind my outlaws , I do wonder where Wales , Scotland and Northern Ireland would be now without the English to keep them?
The Queen only comes in to play when Democracy fails , this stops a Hitler ever getting in to power.
All the countries that work in the world have a system based on the British Mother of Parliments , a Mr Cromwell tried and failed to make Britain the worlds first Republic we Brits do not like Dictatorship!
The Queen loves Wales so much she give you her Eldest son, what more could you want.
Best Wishes PB
The Queen had a Scottish Mother as I remind my outlaws , I do wonder where Wales , Scotland and Northern Ireland would be now without the English to keep them?
The Queen only comes in to play when Democracy fails , this stops a Hitler ever getting in to power.
All the countries that work in the world have a system based on the British Mother of Parliments , a Mr Cromwell tried and failed to make Britain the worlds first Republic we Brits do not like Dictatorship!
The Queen loves Wales so much she give you her Eldest son, what more could you want.
Best Wishes PB
And as for the Queen giving us her son .. lol. We had and have no choice. The last prince of Wales was killed, and his brother too for English royality to put their own on.. actually "we" were tricked, the agreement was welsh speaking, and of course Charles had to learn Welsh, so does his sons.
Give us her son.. lol, if he's ours, can we do what we wish with him
, a few suggestions come to my mind.cheers
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Dec 17th 2002, 1:30 am
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Originally posted by 2thick
What an incredibly well balanced rant; a chip on both shoulders lol. Next you'll be suggesting we scrap English and start conducting world affiars in Welsh lol
What an incredibly well balanced rant; a chip on both shoulders lol. Next you'll be suggesting we scrap English and start conducting world affiars in Welsh lol
I never said that and I'd be stupid for suggesting it. World affairs are conducted in English. Having lived in Asia, I have seen time and time again two non English speaking people conducting business in broken English (eg a Japanese person and an Indonesian etc, etc). It does not mean indigenous languages should be eradicated though.
But I have a huge problem when the English did try and stop us speaking our own language. My Grandfather was 100 per cent Welsh speaking, first language but he was forced in school by beatings to speak English. I myself could not get into a Welsh school as a young child. My mother, who is Irish (father Welsh) wanted me to learn my own language from an early age, as well as speaking the English language. She tried to enrol me in a Welsh school at the age of 4.. she was told that I needed two welsh speaking parents for me to be enrolled... (
If you call I having a chip on my shoulder for speaking the truth that's your problem, bury your head. . Just remember Wales did not join England by pleasantries. My family have fought for Great Britain and yet "we" Wales are not on the Union Jack.. the King and flag we defended., my welsh ancestors fought for Great Britain too.. same as yours in England, and we have every right to be on that flag. Welsh people lost blood too.
Time and time again England still today has little digs, I mentioned the census earlier.. Nationality, you could tick the English box, you could tick a Pakistani , Indian box for christ sake, but no Welsh box.. So an immigrant is more important than an indigenous nation eh? The welsh either had to tick the English box (never!!) or the other box. Thousands of people in Wales did not hand in the census for this reason, they were collected in a coffin and delivered to Downing street by "Independent Wales" party without being filled in, this is recent, last census.
Rant no, truth yes, If you can't recognise what England has done in the past and still does to a point, I pity you.
Cheers
P.S Before you even suggest I hate the English, most of my friends have been English, and I have family by marriage who are English. I do not hate anyone (except for those Royal bums). Just because I fly the Welsh flag doesn't mean it's a symbol of hatred for England.. it simply means I'm Welsh..and Like you may be proud of your England, I have every right to do and feel the same for Wales
And as for Royalty, whether you're English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish.. I think we deserve a vote on that family. It's not democratic
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Dec 17th 2002, 2:15 am
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Originally posted by madmancunian
>> The Brits had to Ferry your piss pot Army to East Timor and were the first to land no Yanks there at all?
So no Republic because no Australian can not come up with anything better than Betty , sounds about right.
You talk such nonsense PB, now tell me how britain won the Falklands war eh? I'm afraid the days of the brits going it alone are long gone (and I think you already know this).
The answer is - "With a little help from my (yankee) friends" - best sung loudly in a Ringo Starr voice.
As for the usefulness/importance of the royal family, well these true anecdotes should speak loud and clear:
Some of Prince Philip's best moments:
1) After accepting a gift off a Kenyan native he replied "You are a woman aren't you?"
2) After the Dunblane massacre : "If a cricketer decided to go into a school and batter people to death with his bat, are we going to ban cricket bats?"
3) "If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an aeroplane, or swims and is not a submarine the Cantonese will eat it"
4) On a World Wildlife Fund visit he refused to touch a Koala bear as "It will be riddled with ghastly diseases"
5) Suggested locals were cannibals on a visit to Papua New Guinea by asking a British student "You managed not to get eaten then?"
6) Asked a wealthy Cayman Islander "You're all descended from pirates aren't you?"
7) Asked a Scottish driving instructor "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough for them to pass"
8) Told a group of deaf school children at a fund raising event standing next to a Jamaican steel drum band "Deaf? No wonder you are deaf standing so close to that racket"
9) On a visit to China he described Peking as "ghastly" and said that if you stay too long there you will become "slitty eyed"
10) Told a student in Budapest that "You can't have been in Budapest that long because you haven't got a pot-belly"
11) In India visiting a site where the British army in the years of the Empire had slaughtered Indian civilians, He was shown a plaque commemorating the 2000 killed to which he quipped "No, no, we didn't slaughter that many"
12) Told a mother who had recently lost two sons in a house fire that "smoke alarms are a damn nuisance"
13) On a visit to a large factory he told a group of workers that a fuse box "looks like it has been put in by an Indian"
In 1996 he caused an outcry among gun law reformers when he said: "There's no evidence that people who use weapons for sport are any more dangerous than people who use golf clubs or
tennis rackets or cricket bats."
The Prince angered local residents in Lockerbie when on a visit to the town in 1993, he said to a man who lived in a road where 11 people had been killed by wreckage from the Pan Am jumbo
jet: "People usually say that after a fire it is water damage that is the worst. We are still trying to dry out Windsor Castle."
He said of Canada: "We don't come here for our health. We can think of other ways of enjoying ourselves."
At the height of the recession in 1981 he said: "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed."
In 1966 he provoked outrage by saying: "British women can't cook."
Personal remarks have annoyed singing stars. In 1969 The Duke said to Tom Jones after the Royal Variety Performance: "What do you gargle with, pebbles?".
Prince Philip's joke to a blind girl at an award ceremony: 'A blind man walked into a pub and swung his guide dog around his head by the tail. He told the barman 'I'm just having a look
around'.'
Prince Philip on his daughter, Princess Anne: 'If it doesn't fart or eat hay, she isn't interested.
Rule Britannia?
>> The Brits had to Ferry your piss pot Army to East Timor and were the first to land no Yanks there at all?
So no Republic because no Australian can not come up with anything better than Betty , sounds about right.
You talk such nonsense PB, now tell me how britain won the Falklands war eh? I'm afraid the days of the brits going it alone are long gone (and I think you already know this).
The answer is - "With a little help from my (yankee) friends" - best sung loudly in a Ringo Starr voice.
As for the usefulness/importance of the royal family, well these true anecdotes should speak loud and clear:
Some of Prince Philip's best moments:
1) After accepting a gift off a Kenyan native he replied "You are a woman aren't you?"
2) After the Dunblane massacre : "If a cricketer decided to go into a school and batter people to death with his bat, are we going to ban cricket bats?"
3) "If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an aeroplane, or swims and is not a submarine the Cantonese will eat it"
4) On a World Wildlife Fund visit he refused to touch a Koala bear as "It will be riddled with ghastly diseases"
5) Suggested locals were cannibals on a visit to Papua New Guinea by asking a British student "You managed not to get eaten then?"
6) Asked a wealthy Cayman Islander "You're all descended from pirates aren't you?"
7) Asked a Scottish driving instructor "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough for them to pass"
8) Told a group of deaf school children at a fund raising event standing next to a Jamaican steel drum band "Deaf? No wonder you are deaf standing so close to that racket"
9) On a visit to China he described Peking as "ghastly" and said that if you stay too long there you will become "slitty eyed"
10) Told a student in Budapest that "You can't have been in Budapest that long because you haven't got a pot-belly"
11) In India visiting a site where the British army in the years of the Empire had slaughtered Indian civilians, He was shown a plaque commemorating the 2000 killed to which he quipped "No, no, we didn't slaughter that many"
12) Told a mother who had recently lost two sons in a house fire that "smoke alarms are a damn nuisance"
13) On a visit to a large factory he told a group of workers that a fuse box "looks like it has been put in by an Indian"
In 1996 he caused an outcry among gun law reformers when he said: "There's no evidence that people who use weapons for sport are any more dangerous than people who use golf clubs or
tennis rackets or cricket bats."
The Prince angered local residents in Lockerbie when on a visit to the town in 1993, he said to a man who lived in a road where 11 people had been killed by wreckage from the Pan Am jumbo
jet: "People usually say that after a fire it is water damage that is the worst. We are still trying to dry out Windsor Castle."
He said of Canada: "We don't come here for our health. We can think of other ways of enjoying ourselves."
At the height of the recession in 1981 he said: "Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed."
In 1966 he provoked outrage by saying: "British women can't cook."
Personal remarks have annoyed singing stars. In 1969 The Duke said to Tom Jones after the Royal Variety Performance: "What do you gargle with, pebbles?".
Prince Philip's joke to a blind girl at an award ceremony: 'A blind man walked into a pub and swung his guide dog around his head by the tail. He told the barman 'I'm just having a look
around'.'
Prince Philip on his daughter, Princess Anne: 'If it doesn't fart or eat hay, she isn't interested.
Rule Britannia?
I can't remember any of his quotes off the top of my head, but I know he has a foul mouth.
It's good to laugh at them and not with them
cheers
Dec 17th 2002, 2:41 am
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Originally posted by Ceri
The Queen mum was born in Scotland.. which still does not mean she was scottish. PB if you and your wife have kids born here in Aus.. would you consider them to Be Aussies
And as for the Queen giving us her son .. lol. We had and have no choice. The last prince of Wales was killed, and his brother too for English royality to put their own on.. actually "we" were tricked, the agreement was welsh speaking, and of course Charles had to learn Welsh, so does his sons.
Give us her son.. lol, if he's ours, can we do what we wish with him, a few suggestions come to my mind.
cheers
The Queen mum was born in Scotland.. which still does not mean she was scottish. PB if you and your wife have kids born here in Aus.. would you consider them to Be Aussies
And as for the Queen giving us her son .. lol. We had and have no choice. The last prince of Wales was killed, and his brother too for English royality to put their own on.. actually "we" were tricked, the agreement was welsh speaking, and of course Charles had to learn Welsh, so does his sons.
Give us her son.. lol, if he's ours, can we do what we wish with him
, a few suggestions come to my mind.cheers
No way would I let my son be called an Aussie that would bring shame on my family ,I can see why you not keen on the Royals I do not defend them as people only the system which has served us well.
Big Phil is Greek which says it all , I do believe the World watched Diana being buried such is the interest in these people , I can not be called a Royalist but I have yet to find a more sound political system for all I care any Welsh, Scottish or Irish man or women could be King or Queen its just a job like any other.
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Dec 17th 2002, 3:11 am
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Originally posted by michael29
Thats funny dickhead my brother went to East Timor on an Australian Hercules.Get your facts right losser instead of shooting your mouth off.
Thats funny dickhead my brother went to East Timor on an Australian Hercules.Get your facts right losser instead of shooting your mouth off.
Red tape next in the firing line
Australia must be one of the few countries to measure defence capability by the money spent ("War on terror cramped by cost bungling", Herald, December 16). Sophisticated countries measure outputs rather than inputs but, by that measure, Australia's defence capability is in poor shape.
For more than a decade, successive governments have cut personnel by 28 per cent, retained elderly and obsolete basic equipment that is more dangerous to our people than a potential enemy, and have cut defence outlays from 8.8 per cent of federal spending to 7.7 per cent (once as low as 6.7 per cent).
The real problem underlying your report is the extraordinarily complex, clumsy and inefficient departmental structure, with its lack of responsibility and accountability. Fixing this should be the Government's urgent priority.
Regrettably, however, money will have to be found to get the defence force's capability up to scratch, even if some will be wasted in the short term.
Michael O'Connor, Executive director, Australia Defence Association, East Doncaster (Vic), December 16.
Dec 17th 2002, 3:15 am
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Good points al lot of people who are Scottish by decent wear the kilt and rave on about Bonnie Scotland but have never been there , where as my outlaws who are SNP fanatics think all Scots who leave Scotland are traitors and are not true Scots.
No way would I let my son be called an Aussie that would bring shame on my family ,I can see why you not keen on the Royals I do not defend them as people only the system which has served us well.
Big Phil is Greek which says it all , I do believe the World watched Diana being buried such is the interest in these people , I can not be called a Royalist but I have yet to find a more sound political system for all I care any Welsh, Scottish or Irish man or women could be King or Queen its just a job like any other.
Good points al lot of people who are Scottish by decent wear the kilt and rave on about Bonnie Scotland but have never been there , where as my outlaws who are SNP fanatics think all Scots who leave Scotland are traitors and are not true Scots.
No way would I let my son be called an Aussie that would bring shame on my family ,I can see why you not keen on the Royals I do not defend them as people only the system which has served us well.
Big Phil is Greek which says it all , I do believe the World watched Diana being buried such is the interest in these people , I can not be called a Royalist but I have yet to find a more sound political system for all I care any Welsh, Scottish or Irish man or women could be King or Queen its just a job like any other.
actually A lot of people in Australia are good at this... false Irish accents etc... sounds dreadful, funny! you can tell a fake accent a mile off, well at least I can being brought up by an Irish mum and Irish aunts, uncles, grandparents etc, when it was their great great grandfather or something who was Irish, and they try and claim their Irish, or Scottish etc. It's laughable, the false accent. I'm exactly Half Welsh, Half Irish, Mother Irish, and all her parents etc, Father Welsh and all his relatives etc. But I consider myself Welsh, as that's where I was brought up so that is more dominante on my life. It would have been the opposite had I been brought up in Ireland. By blood I'm exactly 50/50.Anyway the point is, I don't claim to be Irish, although I could, while others do with their false accents etc.Anyway I couldn't resist that last remark PB
, I have friends who had children in Singapore... their children are not Singaporeans, same as your children you would not consider to be Aussies.But my point is the Queen, whether we keep her or get rid of her should be a choice.. ie a vote, democratic. How Britain can call itself democratic when we have never had a choice about the monarchy I don't know. I'd vote against the Monarchy, you might vote for, but this is democracy.. which ever way the final result turns out to be.
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Dec 17th 2002, 3:32 am
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Originally posted by Ceri
But my point is the Queen, whether we keep her or get rid of her should be a choice.. ie a vote, democratic. How Britain can call itself democratic when we have never had a choice abouth the monarchy I don't know. I'd vote against the Monarchy, you might vote for, but this is democracy.. which ever way the final result turns out to be.
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But my point is the Queen, whether we keep her or get rid of her should be a choice.. ie a vote, democratic. How Britain can call itself democratic when we have never had a choice abouth the monarchy I don't know. I'd vote against the Monarchy, you might vote for, but this is democracy.. which ever way the final result turns out to be.
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There has to be some one above politicans who takes no part in debate ,but can step in to stop the democratic system being abused.
We all came from tribal people so a line of decent seems to work ,the last King to put himself above the laws of the land lost his head the system works both ways.
Dec 17th 2002, 6:49 am
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Seems most aussies think Australia has a pisspot defence force as well, By the way when is your navy going to join the big boys and get an Aircraft Carrier or Nuclear Sub?
Seems most aussies think Australia has a pisspot defence force as well, By the way when is your navy going to join the big boys and get an Aircraft Carrier or Nuclear Sub?
We haven't had an aircraft carrier since Ark Royal
Dec 17th 2002, 6:53 am
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Originally posted by Ceri
exactly actually A lot of people in Australia are good at this... false Irish accents etc... sounds dreadful, funny! you can tell a fake accent a mile off, well at least I can being brought up by an Irish mum and Irish aunts, uncles, grandparents etc, when it was their great great grandfather or something who was Irish, and they try and claim their Irish, or Scottish etc. It's laughable, the false accent
exactly
actually A lot of people in Australia are good at this... false Irish accents etc... sounds dreadful, funny! you can tell a fake accent a mile off, well at least I can being brought up by an Irish mum and Irish aunts, uncles, grandparents etc, when it was their great great grandfather or something who was Irish, and they try and claim their Irish, or Scottish etc. It's laughable, the false accent
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Originally posted by renth
We haven't had an aircraft carrier since Ark Royal
We haven't had an aircraft carrier since Ark Royal
We have 3 and about to order 2 more to replace them , BAE SYSTEMS' Future Carrier programme is designed to replace the Royal Navy's current Invincible class aircraft carriers. Which are the New Ark Royal and The Invincible , you Sir are way out of touch what did you think the Sea Harriers took off from a life boat?
By the way Aussies tried to buy the old Ark Royal but could not fund it.
The Twenty-First Century Navy
The Royal Navy ended the Twentieth Century more powerful relatively than it had been for some time and perhaps second only to the United States Navy in its ability to project power around the world.
There are sixteen nuclear powered submarines, some of which are armed with nuclear ballistic missiles or conventionally armed Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles. The surface fleet combines three aircraft carriers with over thirty capable destroyers and frigates, an amphibious squadron recently reinforced with a new helicopter carrier and one of the most proven flotillas of minehunters in the world. It is a worthy successor to the fleets of the past whose unmatched tradition of excellence provides a powerful stimulus to the men and women of the Royal Navy today.
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Dec 17th 2002, 7:53 am
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Sir are way out of touch what did you think the Sea Harriers took off from a life boat?
Sir are way out of touch what did you think the Sea Harriers took off from a life boat?
They don't have the strategic power of an aircraft carrier with all the radar planes and heavier bombers etc...
Park Invincible up next to the French Clemenceu or any American aircraft carrier, or even the old Ark Royal and it would be like me parking my windsurfer next to a car ferry.
